-Kryptyk- Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I mean.... this is the reaction I've had for every update and hotfix ever (except for u18)... maybe we should stop hyping so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swailwort Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Remember back in the day the outrage for Four Riders being a Manic Drop? How about Vermillion Storm, the stance that was in the Manic Bombard, which had 1 on 2 chances to appear in an entire mission? Well, it's the same all over again. Defiled Snapdragon, thanks God it was a Scorpion Stance. Gaia's Tragedy took me 40 Scrombas/Combas kills. Then we had Vengeful Revenant, a stance that drops from Conculysts, which in for example Plato might spawn; and now Vulpine Mask, which also drops in Manic Bombards and the Drekar Variant. And it's a rare mod, thus having an extremely low drop chance... Please, stop DE, it's extremely painful to see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkezuli Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragasu Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 RNGesus say 2035 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh0ck-Wave Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) New stance <> 60p 7 day booster : 80p Weapon slot : 6p (but need to spend 12) Catalyst : 20p .. bundle is not a bad deal really. Edited January 14, 2016 by Sh0ck-Wave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Solargeo Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 how ever luck i get and use a nekros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kryptyk- Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 there are stances called Four Riders and Gaia's Tragedy? FML. WHY DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS!?!?! oh... right.... so rare that rarely anyone knew about them... got it. WELP. time to go farming again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumfing Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 It's still an f2p game, you can work for it. Fight Tyl Regor and hopefully you'll get one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sappinmahsentry Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 ... *upvotes* You are absolutely correct, m'Neko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Yup, there's a line between ''Hey guys, it's easier to buy this from the market'' and ''Hey guys, have fun never seeing this unless you buy it from the market''. This crossed that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickelshark Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Maybe in a couple of decades. Honestly, I'm not going to even bother, and I refuse to buy the weapon. Sorry DE you ain't gettin' a dime out of me for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh0ck-Wave Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Alternative : Farm prime items, sell for plat, buy the bundle. What you don't sell is Ducat fodder for Baro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Solargeo Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I didn't even TRY and get defiled snap and got it when lvin my nekros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathfrombelow5 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Like, 2 hours of working a minimum wage job to buy the package with plat. That isn't an excuse. It has never been a valid excuse. I have spent close to 90 bucks on this game at this point. Why the heck should I spend more? Saying "Just buy it with plat lol" is not good reasoning. These things need to be obtainable in game. This kind of stuff is a problem, and it needs to be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321agemo Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Apparently less than 1 minute *looks at market* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robonot2 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 New stance <> 60p 7 day booster : 80p Weapon slot : 6p (but need to spend 12) Catalyst : 20p .. bundle is not a bad deal really. I just looked on someone's youtube video. The melee weapon itself is 185 plat, so ik this bundle, it would seem as the stance would be priced at 30 to 50 plat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcusVeles Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I've learned not to care about stances for weapons I don't use. I don't even use melee mode on the melee weapons I do use, even. I prefer the quick attacks to the goofy &#! attack animations of the combos. The mods are just +10 mod points to me. Same with the new ships. I'm not going to use them, so I don't need them. They don't even give mastery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kryptyk- Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 welp, time to hopelessly go farm I refuse to buy the weapon. Sorry DE you ain't gettin' a dime out of me for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM-Bunny Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 That isn't an excuse. It has never been a valid excuse. I have spent close to 90 bucks on this game at this point. Why the heck should I spend more? Saying "Just buy it with plat lol" is not good reasoning. These things need to be obtainable in game. This kind of stuff is a problem, and it needs to be fixed. I wasn't saying it was an excuse. Making the cash option so vastly more appealing than the excruciating alternative of obtaining it in-game is what most the debased MMO games lower themselves to. Warframe has traditionally deviated from this principle, and has rewarded players who wish to earn rewards by playing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kryptyk- Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I just looked on someone's youtube video. The melee weapon itself is 185 plat, so ik this bundle, it would seem as the stance would be priced at 30 to 50 plat considering the 0.021% drop chance of the stance, be expecting the price to go up heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwevOWNED Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 In both of these cases, we have extremely rare items, one of which is constrained in a saturated drop table which you can draw from one a day, and the other which can only be reliably farmed from one mission where you get two 0.021% (Four if you run a Nekros) chances at the drop. Now, this by itself is fine. Stuff like Vermilion Storm and Vengeful Revenant I find to be perfectly acceptable because while they are exceptionally grind heavy to acquire, there are other stance mods that are easier to get, and these mods are worth a significant amount of plat should you decide to sell them. Vulpine Mask are not like those stances. It is the ONLY stance for Rapiers, making it mandatory for anyone who wants to use the weapon for more that quick melee, and its value is capped near 30 to 45 because of the bundle. Nezha is the same way, being incredibly time consuming to get with only one chance a day to possibly get one of three parts. Not bad by itself, as dedicated farming could reward players with a valuable set. Except for the fact you can simply buy him with plat, which places the set value below 235 when you factor out the slot and reactor, despite it taking significantly longer to acquire than the most valuable prime set. The precedent this is seemingly creating makes me uneasy if future content will also be this way. Immense grinding and time spent for fundamental items which are worth very little platinum compared to other things that are just as much of a grind to get. To be clear, I'm not complaining about it being a grind to get, it's the fact that the value is limited by being purchasable directly with platinum. If the Rapier stance mod was not in the bundle, I'd be fine with running Tyl Regor for a day or two to get the mod and not have a care in the world. Vengeful Revenant for example is worth an exceptional amount, and rightly so as the grind needed for it is immense. However Vulpine Mask is equally as daunting a task to get, yet is a fraction the value because it is on the market. Is this a big issue? Not really, but it does make me wary of future practices like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliopata Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirukaChan Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Wait, there are non-Drekar Manic Bombards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichouette Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) I mean.... this is the reaction I've had for every update and hotfix ever (except for u18)... maybe we should stop hyping so much. No please, keep going. This is why i love hype train and hyped people. They always hit the wall so hard i never stop enjoying that. Regarding the rapier, is it even worth it ? On the paper it looks poor. Edited January 14, 2016 by Trichouette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaliazane Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Either buy bundle or buy stance from someone who bought bundle, no other choice. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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