(XBOX)HollowBowl29144 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheoidegen Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 To a certain extent, and if you have skills. Then yes, but some people refuse to work with things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloop Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 To a certain extent, and if you have skills. Then yes, but some people refuse to work with things.This. It is not about mods at all (well, not in the warframe at least), it is about your skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrizzly Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 This. It is not about mods at all (well, not in the warframe at least), it is about your skills. There really isn't skill in this game. Just CC spams and tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornWithTeeth Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Baseline Sobek is an ok shotgun. It's decent. It works. It's fine. Four Forma Sobek is an endgame beast which mows down entire squads of level 90 Grineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)GallonOfSkimMilk Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 No. The kraken and prova are still bad even with maxed mods. There is some skill in the game, but it's mostly about the mods and the ranks of those mods that a player has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plushy Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 For weapons its all about the mods you throw on them and the base damage values or crit values or whatever other stat you're focused on. No ammount of modding is going to make certain weapons endgame if their base stats arent high enough. There's a reason most weapons are MR fodder. Warframes usually work about the same no matter how you mod them. The mods just make the frame tougher to kill and the abilities better at what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloop Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 There really isn't skill in this game. Just CC spams and tanking. That depends on how you really want to play it. Not everybody goes into high levels spamming abilities or CC, just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperAga Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 No. By the very definition of "over powered" something would have to be above the mediocre standard, so therefore not every weapon can become OP. If everything is overpowered nothing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)PillarOfWar Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I have forma'd the Hek out out my Kraken andits still not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovusNova Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I wouldn't say they can become OP. I would rather say, that all can be usable/good at later levels with the correct mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormandreas Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 To a certain extent, and if you have skills. Then yes, but some people refuse to work with things. ^ This!!! Yes, they can be. If you have the knowledge, and good skills with a certain weapon/warframe, it can become Op. People say that there are a lot of weapons and frames that just arn't endgame, but they can be. I for one, love using Zephyr and Limbo. 2 Warframes that people claim are not good in Endgame. Both of which because people can't be bothered to work for the power you can get. Similarly with my Twin Gremlins, Twin Viper, Skana etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydian Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Modding is very, very important. A Braton with good modding beats a Boltor Prime with bad modding. That said, modding, a potato, and Forma are multipliers on the base weapon strength. A Braton with good modding can never match a Boltor Prime with the same good modding, and the Braton will require a lot more work to get to acceptable levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrizzly Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 No. The kraken and prova are still bad even with maxed mods. There is some skill in the game, but it's mostly about the mods and the ranks of those mods that a player has. The Kraken maxed with forma is actually pretty good. :P Does some really good damage in T4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.ToastForPresident Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Most weapons can be usable with correct mods, but not OP. But not melee weapons, since those can not aim for headshots and forces you to close quarters and hit enemies for damage equivalent to hitting them with a feather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizar0011 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Modding is very, very important. A Braton with good modding beats a Boltor Prime with bad modding. That said, modding, a potato, and Forma are multipliers on the base weapon strength. A Braton with good modding can never match a Boltor Prime with the same good modding, and the Braton will require a lot more work to get to acceptable levels. Somewhat false. It defintely took far more work to get my Braton Prime where it needs to be, however, it outstrips my boltor prime in any mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenzanar Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) I've taken a heavily modded Mk-1 Braton through T3 content without too much trouble. I'm sure someone has done T4 with it but it'll need a lot of ammo restores :p While it can work, it takes a lot of effort and it certainly isn't OP. Most weapons are fine through most of the game if you invest in them. For example, I like the Dera for some pew-pew, gave it a few formas and it handles most things but for sortie level stuff I'll bring something beefy. Edited January 19, 2016 by TenzUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Alphonso-Alonso Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Is this true? With mods, forma, AND either passive or active Warfame mods yes. Just about any weapon in the game can be made to be powerful. What it really comes down to is if you have enough personal investment in the weapon OR if you want to put enough time into it. Then there's also the subject of utlity to consider as well. Warframe is one of the few games where utility actually scales better than damage does. For instance, I have no potato or forma on my Sonicor which is a wrist-mounted burst energy weapon that does minimal damage but ragdolls enemies around very humorously. That is my go-to weapon for Tier 3 Sorties in which enemies have enhanced armor and I need to keep them out of commission to achieve objectives. During an interception I basically just ran around keeping groups of enemies tripping over themselves or off of the zones so they could never capture. Warframe is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattledOne Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 ITT people don't know what OP means and try to sell their mixtapes non meta weapons as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydian Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Somewhat false. It defintely took far more work to get my Braton Prime where it needs to be, however, it outstrips my boltor prime in any mission. Screenshots of both modding setups and stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlim Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Depends on what you mean with op. With enough forma and the right mods I would say 90% of the weapons would be viable up to about 40 min of T4 surv and would wipe the floor with anything below that mark (so in a sense for the majority of content one could say that almost any weapon is op if modded correctly). For frames I would say outside of raids (or very long endless runs) pretty much all frames are viable but only about a third are "op" thanks to their abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5H4DE Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Decent yes , OP no . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 more work and know how is required then the OP easy to use weapons. but again if you understand tactics of use and a good setup then yes its possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortCat Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 My 6 Forma MK-1 Braton is enough for Starchart and T4 missions. Till lvl 40-50 it does its job, you can kill enemies, just not as fast as other weapons. You can also take it to Sortie 3 and kill some enemies there, will run out of bullets really fast though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arenzo4 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 No. By the very definition of "over powered" something would have to be above the mediocre standard, so therefore not every weapon can become OP. If everything is overpowered nothing is. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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