Mizar0011 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Screenshots of both modding setups and stats? Sure once i get home and put my kids down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Master4733 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Most weapons can be usable with correct mods, but not OP. But not melee weapons, since those can not aim for headshots and forces you to close quarters and hit enemies for damage equivalent to hitting them with a feather. I disagree, there are several ways to get headshots, from some quick melees, to combos, sometimes even a jump attack, melees are always viable I the right hand because no matter what everything will eventual stop working well and it's just your ability to dodge hits and hit back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrVonTuckIII Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'm deciding whether to get Excalibur, Braton, Skana, and Aklato just for the lulz. Oh and so I can troll Draco players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Master4733 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'm deciding whether to get Excalibur, Braton, Skana, and Aklato just for the lulz. Oh and so I can troll Draco players.I did that in the vote assassination(on mercury), all default looking stuff but fully nodded and formaed, they the 2guys both had mics(I assume were friends) they litterally flipped out like wtf, btw QT makes new players think your a hacker:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destiny1smith1 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 All weapons can become OP and viable if you put enough effort and practice into them. Also some weapons aren't made for some peoples styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizar0011 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Screenshots of both modding setups and stats? http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/355024085879112908/2EF8C96260224C29A7CC58D57858AC7F96272A6A/ 10428.787 burst dps 7634.097 sustained dps and shred can come out to be replaced with anything for more dps, (but the punch through is invaluable in endless missions) Where it really shines is T4, with a corrosive projection squad, using viral, pretty much guaranteed that after one bullet (split chamber) anything is at half health. And honestly looking at it again im changing the build to take into account the mods ive gotten since i got this set up. Edited January 20, 2016 by Mizar0011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom980 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Almost all weapons can be useful, only a few are truly OP and some take a lot of forma but go from ok it crazy after a certain point. Torid is a good example of this, its alright till about 3/4 forma then its suddenly really powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etan-gK Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I have forma'd the Hek out out my Kraken andits still not good. clearly you didn't know what mods to use then, because a fully modded hek is capable of one shotting bombards long past 40 minutes of t4 survival. hell, I've used it to one-shot lvl 100+ sortie enemies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CommanderC2121 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Theoretically, the amount of customization allows for any and every weapon and frame to be op "And when everyones super, no ones super" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydian Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/355024085879112908/2EF8C96260224C29A7CC58D57858AC7F96272A6A/ 10428.787 burst dps 7634.097 sustained dps So those stats and 681.1 per-shot damage (before crit)? Well hate to break it to you, but my Boltor Prime is... http://s11.postimg.org/4q1mx7w5f/image.png 18872.700 burst dps 15533.086 sustained dps 1797.4 per-shot damage (before crit) So my Boltor Prime is 180% the burst DPS, 200% the sustained DPS, and 260% the per-shot damage of your Braton Prime. With one less Forma, and one slot is Primed Fast Hands instead of a damage mod. Don't get me wrong, I like the Braton Prime too, in fact I have 6 Forma in mine to turn it into this... http://s17.postimg.org/4ep21gk67/bratonprime.png 12921.216 burst dps 10082.097 sustained dps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ArnnFrost Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Yup, plus player skills. End of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenzanar Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'm deciding whether to get Excalibur, Braton, Skana, and Aklato just for the lulz. Oh and so I can troll Draco players. The Braton and the Skana are fine but since the totally unwarranted Lato nerf a few updates back the base damage is so low it runs out of steam no matter how you mod it :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortCat Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) + Edited January 20, 2016 by ShortCat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortCat Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Neverthelsee will this weapon: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/355024085879112908/2EF8C96260224C29A7CC58D57858AC7F96272A6A/ 10428.787 burst dps 7634.097 sustained dps outperform this weapon: http://s17.postimg.org/4ep21gk67/bratonprime.png 12921.216 burst dps 10082.097 sustained dps due to higher status. Even though, I would go full status on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Every weapon in game works up to level 40-50 when modded properly, though some only just barely and with maybe a little luck. Likewise, many weapons perform well without Serration and Split Chamber or JUST Serration up to 30-35. If I had to guess, DE will continue to balance weaponry around the starchart, not trials or sorties, which are meant to be hard anyway. Really, it's beyond the first rotation C reward in high end endless that more powerful weaponry starts to really become necessary. And of course, trials and sorties are designed to require the better gear from the start. Edited January 20, 2016 by Littleman88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Is this true? 5 to 6 formas per weapon and frame, stay with things which you like you can check that with every weapon you level, i for myself go with every new unlevelled frame and weapon in a team or solo to earth, first of because as a human being (player) i like the "earthlike" environment and second its easy to focus if i like a weapon or a frame my next step at levelling is the def-mission on earth, its easy to level and fun, when it feels good and i like frame and weapon i go to draco or on some infested md or def missions to level on, some infested mission have a good droprate and beside levelling i get some stuff for being able to level mods nowadays i see lots of new players which are "infested" by this uberrushers on earth which try to get "fast" a kubrow egg there should be a possibillity to stop them as well as sometimes neurotic stupid behaving has no boarders in some people, as well as they have my compassion what i do when i meet "young rushers" is that i start playing slower with my higher MR and mostly the people come down, even faster when i mark some mods, kubrow eggs and ressources and when they get aware about that i dont rush and dont make them feel bad because of my expirience the most players use warframe for having fun and im really glad about, i also find sometimes new members for the clan that way lots of people start playing warframe and leave because of the strange behaving of "rushers" and the egoistic behaving and greed of higher MR-ranks we which play warframe since a time can act different for giving new players a good support and we are able to show them how much joy it is to play warframe, even if people dont use boosters in the beginning and lots of people are or would be interested and able to buy a prime accecoaries pack which carries the needed things for a good start in warframe and for making things easier, as well as it has to be shown and communciated with the new players in general .-) just my 2 cents - again ;-) and about skills, knowing about which setups are useful when means SKILLS, im just learning about since today and you can have skills or "master warframe" as good as you can which is useless if you dont care about the right mods and settings which leads back to your question, yes, you can mod a lot of weapons OP and have fun with, you only have to find out how, and about how, asking and listen to the people which are really of help is the best way Edited January 20, 2016 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingSentry Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) There really isn't skill in this game. Just CC spams and tanking. Haha I bet you're one of the players that falls repeatedly when those 2 strategies lose their viability like in some of the new sorties. You can easily tell who plays this game a lot and who farms draco for a living. Edited January 20, 2016 by SleepingSentry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenicis Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 There are some weapons "naturally" op because of basic stats, there are some weapons that are rarely used by players and they can be OP if they serve a certain purpose, and there are some naturlly weaker weapons. Take a Grinlok for example. Built for criticals and headshots (Without HC) I made it a pretty beast, one-shotting corrupted heavies and bombards until extremely high levels. Karak, however, as pleasant as it is to me (Just a regular auto gun and I like the shooting sound), I myself can't find viable at higher waves of T4D/S/I. Alot of people are using Tonkor, for example, as it's stats are obvious as to what it's built for and it's good at what it does - blowing people up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilKam Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 My beloved MK1 Braton. 5 forma, and it can shred through level 25ish enemies. No higher though. Catalyst and forma can really help all weapons become much much more. Some reach mid tier, most reach T3 and early T4. Sortie level performance? Not a promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizar0011 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Neverthelsee will this weapon: outperform this weapon: due to higher status. Even though, I would go full status on it. Pretty much this, as well as again, my DPS is doubled everytime i punchthrough enemies (pretty much guartanteed when you get the the point where you need a weapon with stats as high as any of these are) and actually last night (after adding in heavy caliber, which i didnt realize i didnt have on it) as well as a couple other mods, and the new setup (while still having shred on it so double it for the two enemies hit) and the fact that as a hit-scan weapon i dont miss because the enemy was too far and moved a different way than expected, so i dont lose bullets. 18265.970 burst dps 11278.632 sustained dps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miszt Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 clearly you didn't know what mods to use then, because a fully modded hek is capable of one shotting bombards long past 40 minutes of t4 survival. hell, I've used it to one-shot lvl 100+ sortie enemies He's talking about the kraken, not the hek =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaomega04 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Very untrue. If you max two weapons and add mods, all you're doing is increasing their damage but at equal rates. Sure my 6 forma mk1 brat can keep up in t4 exterminates, but once you fully mod out a tonkor, there's really no contest at all. Why empty two full clips into a lvl 80 bombard when the tonkor can take them out with two grenades? Also, for anyone arguing about not "modding correctly" or "headshots multiplier blah blah blah", just remember that the other weapons can do it so they get the same benefit, this still overpowering the weak weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheoidegen Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 -Snipity snip snip snip- Thus* for one. Also! Some people don't like to cheat the game and be overpowered gods. They like to make a challenge, in one way or another. So using a Braton instead of my 'Uber-powered, forma'd 5000 times, potato'd twice, with 4 Narrow Minded's on it' Scanti Tigris gives that little bit of... Self gratification that we all need sometimes.As for it overpowering the 'weak' weapons, yeah. We broke them beyond repair. Whoops. But the others can still be just as good if put into the right hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)MK Ultra K11 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 ^ This!!! Yes, they can be. If you have the knowledge, and good skills with a certain weapon/warframe, it can become Op. People say that there are a lot of weapons and frames that just arn't endgame, but they can be. I for one, love using Zephyr and Limbo. 2 Warframes that people claim are not good in Endgame. Both of which because people can't be bothered to work for the power you can get. Similarly with my Twin Gremlins, Twin Viper, Skana etc. I use volt prime with the reaper prime and its OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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