[Suggestion]Dojo Research - Sentinel Laboratory

[Amistyrja]

+1

I Really like this idea, and it seems to add to the game in a very balanced way, maybe research mods? so you can add the mod to them instead of just upgrading them all? or having them just absorb the research. making mods seems like it would be fun, and add another balance to it. i dont think they should be precepts though, just passive as you wrote them

Never planned for them to be mods, just upgrades that will benefit sentinels of all Clan members after they are researched. Everything's up to DE though.

[InsomniacOvrLrd]

I'd pay to be able to unlock more utility for my sentinel. a crowd dispersion that matters (shockwave moa action!) would be awesome.

[Kaidinah]

Too good! I am upvoting this and sending the topic to some friends.

 

I love your ideas for Sentinel weapons and upgrades! Thank you for the suggestions! And the cosmetics are perfectly fun too! I hope this all makes it in, even if just in concept without your numbers.

Edited June 25, 2013 by Kaidinah

[Tekkaman-Blade]

Wow, this is away too awesome! Hopefully DE implements something similar.

[Ghost333]

 

Two Shades may attach themselves to a piece of furniture and combine their cloaking powers to turn it invisible.

 

As a proud owner of a Shade, I approve of this motion!

 

Edit: And I also approve of the idea for a nursery. Sentinels are adorable!

Edited June 26, 2013 by Ghost333

[Chaosrejin78]

I put this in the fan section, but think it might fit with your idea a little better (of which I like your idea).

 

Sentinels Upgrading based on rank:

Things to keep in mind, the cost was made this high to encourage participation in alerts and void, the rank was set that high to encourage using new frames and weapons.  This is meant to be a reward for dedication to the game.

The old sentinel will be capable of upgrading along a set path, which is done by blue prints for the new ones and only usable when the users is rank 7 and then rank 10.  The cost for each first upgrade is 600k credits to buy the blue print and 50,000 to manufacture.  The second upgrade will cost 1 million credits to buy the blue print and 75,000 to manufacture.  The old sentinel will vanish, similar to how weapons blue prints work when made into dual wield.  The new sentinels have some new precepts, while some carry over from the original.  Each upgrade to the sentinels increases their max hp, armor, shield, and attack power.  At max upgrade, they will have about 1/2 the attack power of a normal frame and at first upgrade about 1/3 the attack power.

 

In order to upgrade a sentinel to the next stage, you need to have it at lvl 30, an orokin cell and the upgrade bp.

The path they upgrade along:

Shade upgrades to a robotic wolf form.  No longer capable of firing, they will be restricted to a melee combat.  They have melee similar to an infested charger, but one of the precepts will allow it to use a charge attack every once and awhile for higher damage.  Will still cloak the user, and will not attack unless the user attacks first.  It should teleport to user if the user gets too far from it, to avoid any issues that it may get with being a ground one and getting stuck.

Wolf then upgrades into a robotic knight form.  The final form is about 3/4 the size of a normal warframe, floats off the ground a little.  The knight uses a sword like gram and will once again be restricted to melee attacks only, only now capable of hitting more than one target per attack.  The sentinel carries over the occasional charge attack and stealth, along with the not attacking until the user does.

Wyrm upgrades to a floating mini robot wyvern form.  Now wields dual laser rifles and will firing on targets that are in range.  The dragon loses the ability of the wyrm for the crowd dispersion, in favor of a group shield, similar to how the corpus ones work.  This makes the dragon more prone to be shot at.

Wyvern upgrades to robotic dragooner. Again about 3/4 the size of a normal frame, but floats above the ground by about a foot, bring it up to about shoulder height.  This form uses an orthos type weapon with charge attacks.  The charge attack however, is more like a krestel or glaive with a smaller max range of about 18m.   Carries over the previous precepts of the wyvern form.

Dethcube upgrades to robotic vulture.  Uses a mixture of melee and gun fire, depending on if the enemy is close or far from user, carries over the precepts from dethcube, but vaporize changes to death dive.  Death dive is an up close attack that impacts hard one opponent doing good damage and knocking down multiple opponents in a 1 meter radius.  Same cool down time as vaporize

Hawk upgrades to Reaper.  Again, the Reaper is about 3/4 the size of a frame and floats a little off the ground. No longer having gun attacks, the reaper now wields a scythe, similar to reaper prime.  The attacks hit multiple targets, stunning them, no charge attack.  Death Dive changes to Death Gaze, which hits multiple targets, up to three, similar to damage on vaporize, but on up to 3 targets.  Does not knock down or stun targets.  Same cool down time as vaporize.

New Sentinel:
Oculus: Big robotic looking Eye Ball with 5 tentacles hanging down from it.  Uses a semi-auto ballistic rifle.
Precept:
Seeing is Believing: Will only fire after the user fires. The same idea behind the shade’s precept.
Eye of Beholder: Has an enemy radar function that occasionally turns on, range at min is 8 meters and at max 12 meters.

Oculus upgrades to Robotic Manta like thing.  Uses a sniper rifle, mounted where the tail is, looking similar to the vulkar.  Carries over the same Precepts from oculus.

Manta upgrades to Archer. Archer is about 3/4 the size of a frame and floats a little off the ground Carries over the same precepts as Manta and Oculus.  Weapon is now a bow similar to Paris in function and use, so thunderbolt can be attached on to it.

Nemu: long snake like body. Uses a semi-auto ballistic handgun
Precepts:
Patient Strike: Attacks targets after the master does.
Regeneration: Heals the master every once and awhile with a burst of hp. Min 5 hp max
10 hp restored. Cool down on skill of 1 minute.  Will only activate when enemies are nearby.

Restore: As a passive precept decreases the time needed to be revive, but loses guardian.
Increasing this Precept decreases the time needed by .5 seconds min to a max of 3 seconds.

Nemu upgrades to Robotic Salamander.  Salamander uses dual semi-auto laser pistols. The precepts carry over from Nemu; Patient strike and restore.  Still no guardian.  This one will, like the wolf, teleport too you if you get too far from it.
Regeneration now becomes a group heal, called Heal All, same healing ranges of 5 min d 10 max hp restored, only does so now for a group within a certain range of you. The cool down is still 1 minute. Will only activate when enemies are nearby.

Salamander upgrades to robotic Valkyrie.  Valkyrie is about 3/4 the size of a frame and floats a little off the ground Valkyrie uses quad semi-auto laser pistols.  Valkyrie uses the precepts of salamander and nemu.  Heal All now becomes Massive Regeneration, restoring a min of 10 and a max of 15 hp. The skill cool down is still a minute. Will only activate when enemies are nearby.

[fishworshipper]

DO WANT.

[X3Evanescence]

Bump.

[fishworshipper]

I put this in the fan section, but think it might fit with your idea a little better (of which I like your idea).

 

Sentinels Upgrading based on rank:

Things to keep in mind, the cost was made this high to encourage participation in alerts and void, the rank was set that high to encourage using new frames and weapons.  This is meant to be a reward for dedication to the game.

The old sentinel will be capable of upgrading along a set path, which is done by blue prints for the new ones and only usable when the users is rank 7 and then rank 10.  The cost for each first upgrade is 600k credits to buy the blue print and 50,000 to manufacture.  The second upgrade will cost 1 million credits to buy the blue print and 75,000 to manufacture.  The old sentinel will vanish, similar to how weapons blue prints work when made into dual wield.  The new sentinels have some new precepts, while some carry over from the original.  Each upgrade to the sentinels increases their max hp, armor, shield, and attack power.  At max upgrade, they will have about 1/2 the attack power of a normal frame and at first upgrade about 1/3 the attack power.

 

In order to upgrade a sentinel to the next stage, you need to have it at lvl 30, an orokin cell and the upgrade bp.

The path they upgrade along:

Shade upgrades to a robotic wolf form.  No longer capable of firing, they will be restricted to a melee combat.  They have melee similar to an infested charger, but one of the precepts will allow it to use a charge attack every once and awhile for higher damage.  Will still cloak the user, and will not attack unless the user attacks first.  It should teleport to user if the user gets too far from it, to avoid any issues that it may get with being a ground one and getting stuck.

Wolf then upgrades into a robotic knight form.  The final form is about 3/4 the size of a normal warframe, floats off the ground a little.  The knight uses a sword like gram and will once again be restricted to melee attacks only, only now capable of hitting more than one target per attack.  The sentinel carries over the occasional charge attack and stealth, along with the not attacking until the user does.

Wyrm upgrades to a floating mini robot wyvern form.  Now wields dual laser rifles and will firing on targets that are in range.  The dragon loses the ability of the wyrm for the crowd dispersion, in favor of a group shield, similar to how the corpus ones work.  This makes the dragon more prone to be shot at.

Wyvern upgrades to robotic dragooner. Again about 3/4 the size of a normal frame, but floats above the ground by about a foot, bring it up to about shoulder height.  This form uses an orthos type weapon with charge attacks.  The charge attack however, is more like a krestel or glaive with a smaller max range of about 18m.   Carries over the previous precepts of the wyvern form.

Dethcube upgrades to robotic vulture.  Uses a mixture of melee and gun fire, depending on if the enemy is close or far from user, carries over the precepts from dethcube, but vaporize changes to death dive.  Death dive is an up close attack that impacts hard one opponent doing good damage and knocking down multiple opponents in a 1 meter radius.  Same cool down time as vaporize

Hawk upgrades to Reaper.  Again, the Reaper is about 3/4 the size of a frame and floats a little off the ground. No longer having gun attacks, the reaper now wields a scythe, similar to reaper prime.  The attacks hit multiple targets, stunning them, no charge attack.  Death Dive changes to Death Gaze, which hits multiple targets, up to three, similar to damage on vaporize, but on up to 3 targets.  Does not knock down or stun targets.  Same cool down time as vaporize.

New Sentinel:

Oculus: Big robotic looking Eye Ball with 5 tentacles hanging down from it.  Uses a semi-auto ballistic rifle.

Precept:

Seeing is Believing: Will only fire after the user fires. The same idea behind the shade’s precept.

Eye of Beholder: Has an enemy radar function that occasionally turns on, range at min is 8 meters and at max 12 meters.

Oculus upgrades to Robotic Manta like thing.  Uses a sniper rifle, mounted where the tail is, looking similar to the vulkar.  Carries over the same Precepts from oculus.

Manta upgrades to Archer. Archer is about 3/4 the size of a frame and floats a little off the ground Carries over the same precepts as Manta and Oculus.  Weapon is now a bow similar to Paris in function and use, so thunderbolt can be attached on to it.

Nemu: long snake like body. Uses a semi-auto ballistic handgun

Precepts:

Patient Strike: Attacks targets after the master does.

Regeneration: Heals the master every once and awhile with a burst of hp. Min 5 hp max

10 hp restored. Cool down on skill of 1 minute.  Will only activate when enemies are nearby.

Restore: As a passive precept decreases the time needed to be revive, but loses guardian.

Increasing this Precept decreases the time needed by .5 seconds min to a max of 3 seconds.

Nemu upgrades to Robotic Salamander.  Salamander uses dual semi-auto laser pistols. The precepts carry over from Nemu; Patient strike and restore.  Still no guardian.  This one will, like the wolf, teleport too you if you get too far from it.

Regeneration now becomes a group heal, called Heal All, same healing ranges of 5 min d 10 max hp restored, only does so now for a group within a certain range of you. The cool down is still 1 minute. Will only activate when enemies are nearby.

Salamander upgrades to robotic Valkyrie.  Valkyrie is about 3/4 the size of a frame and floats a little off the ground Valkyrie uses quad semi-auto laser pistols.  Valkyrie uses the precepts of salamander and nemu.  Heal All now becomes Massive Regeneration, restoring a min of 10 and a max of 15 hp. The skill cool down is still a minute. Will only activate when enemies are nearby.

While I do appreciate the amount of thought that went into this, I can't agree with it. It just feels like it's going against what the Sentinels are, and having EVERY SINGLE SENTINEL's Super Saiyan 3 form use melee is really annoying, not to mention all the work put into modding their current weapons is basically wasted, potatoes included. Also Deth Gaze is worse than Deth Dive? THE F***? Edited June 27, 2013 by fishworshipper

[Chaosrejin78]

Not that hard of a solution, just make it so the potato carries over to the upgrade form.  Deth dive would only do damage and knock down, not almost insta or almost insta  kill up to three enemies.  And as far as the first three being melee, mainly, isn't that big of an issue honestly.  Seeing as how current sentinels fire when they want or when you do, which either gives away your position or you give it away.  So having a melee type would reduce them giving away your position, offering an easier time at a stealth play through, while at the same time not limiting your rush play through, as each would go back to your side instantly if they get too far from you.  The idea behind the melee type would be so that they would have a reaction range of about 5-8m from your side.  That being said, no one would force you too upgrade your sentinel, it would still be your choice.

Edited June 27, 2013 by Chaosrejin78

[Kaidinah]

I put this in the fan section, but think it might fit with your idea a little better (of which I like your idea).

 

Sentinels Upgrading based on rank:

Things to keep in mind, the cost was made this high to encourage participation in alerts and void, the rank was set that high to encourage using new frames and weapons.  This is meant to be a reward for dedication to the game.

The old sentinel will be capable of upgrading along a set path, which is done by blue prints for the new ones and only usable when the users is rank 7 and then rank 10.  The cost for each first upgrade is 600k credits to buy the blue print and 50,000 to manufacture.  The second upgrade will cost 1 million credits to buy the blue print and 75,000 to manufacture.  The old sentinel will vanish, similar to how weapons blue prints work when made into dual wield.  The new sentinels have some new precepts, while some carry over from the original.  Each upgrade to the sentinels increases their max hp, armor, shield, and attack power.  At max upgrade, they will have about 1/2 the attack power of a normal frame and at first upgrade about 1/3 the attack power.

 

In order to upgrade a sentinel to the next stage, you need to have it at lvl 30, an orokin cell and the upgrade bp.

The path they upgrade along:

Shade upgrades to a robotic wolf form.  No longer capable of firing, they will be restricted to a melee combat.  They have melee similar to an infested charger, but one of the precepts will allow it to use a charge attack every once and awhile for higher damage.  Will still cloak the user, and will not attack unless the user attacks first.  It should teleport to user if the user gets too far from it, to avoid any issues that it may get with being a ground one and getting stuck.

Wolf then upgrades into a robotic knight form.  The final form is about 3/4 the size of a normal warframe, floats off the ground a little.  The knight uses a sword like gram and will once again be restricted to melee attacks only, only now capable of hitting more than one target per attack.  The sentinel carries over the occasional charge attack and stealth, along with the not attacking until the user does.

Wyrm upgrades to a floating mini robot wyvern form.  Now wields dual laser rifles and will firing on targets that are in range.  The dragon loses the ability of the wyrm for the crowd dispersion, in favor of a group shield, similar to how the corpus ones work.  This makes the dragon more prone to be shot at.

Wyvern upgrades to robotic dragooner. Again about 3/4 the size of a normal frame, but floats above the ground by about a foot, bring it up to about shoulder height.  This form uses an orthos type weapon with charge attacks.  The charge attack however, is more like a krestel or glaive with a smaller max range of about 18m.   Carries over the previous precepts of the wyvern form.

Dethcube upgrades to robotic vulture.  Uses a mixture of melee and gun fire, depending on if the enemy is close or far from user, carries over the precepts from dethcube, but vaporize changes to death dive.  Death dive is an up close attack that impacts hard one opponent doing good damage and knocking down multiple opponents in a 1 meter radius.  Same cool down time as vaporize

Hawk upgrades to Reaper.  Again, the Reaper is about 3/4 the size of a frame and floats a little off the ground. No longer having gun attacks, the reaper now wields a scythe, similar to reaper prime.  The attacks hit multiple targets, stunning them, no charge attack.  Death Dive changes to Death Gaze, which hits multiple targets, up to three, similar to damage on vaporize, but on up to 3 targets.  Does not knock down or stun targets.  Same cool down time as vaporize.

New Sentinel:

Oculus: Big robotic looking Eye Ball with 5 tentacles hanging down from it.  Uses a semi-auto ballistic rifle.

Precept:

Seeing is Believing: Will only fire after the user fires. The same idea behind the shade’s precept.

Eye of Beholder: Has an enemy radar function that occasionally turns on, range at min is 8 meters and at max 12 meters.

Oculus upgrades to Robotic Manta like thing.  Uses a sniper rifle, mounted where the tail is, looking similar to the vulkar.  Carries over the same Precepts from oculus.

Manta upgrades to Archer. Archer is about 3/4 the size of a frame and floats a little off the ground Carries over the same precepts as Manta and Oculus.  Weapon is now a bow similar to Paris in function and use, so thunderbolt can be attached on to it.

Nemu: long snake like body. Uses a semi-auto ballistic handgun

Precepts:

Patient Strike: Attacks targets after the master does.

Regeneration: Heals the master every once and awhile with a burst of hp. Min 5 hp max

10 hp restored. Cool down on skill of 1 minute.  Will only activate when enemies are nearby.

Restore: As a passive precept decreases the time needed to be revive, but loses guardian.

Increasing this Precept decreases the time needed by .5 seconds min to a max of 3 seconds.

Nemu upgrades to Robotic Salamander.  Salamander uses dual semi-auto laser pistols. The precepts carry over from Nemu; Patient strike and restore.  Still no guardian.  This one will, like the wolf, teleport too you if you get too far from it.

Regeneration now becomes a group heal, called Heal All, same healing ranges of 5 min d 10 max hp restored, only does so now for a group within a certain range of you. The cool down is still 1 minute. Will only activate when enemies are nearby.

Salamander upgrades to robotic Valkyrie.  Valkyrie is about 3/4 the size of a frame and floats a little off the ground Valkyrie uses quad semi-auto laser pistols.  Valkyrie uses the precepts of salamander and nemu.  Heal All now becomes Massive Regeneration, restoring a min of 10 and a max of 15 hp. The skill cool down is still a minute. Will only activate when enemies are nearby.

Can't say I am fond of the sentinel bestial forms. I want them to stay small. Your new Sentinel ideas are nice though!

[hydrator]

+1 from me, Great ideas!!

[PopTartZombie]

+ 1

MILLION

[Hubjump]

+99999999999999999999.ect this is the best idear in the forums I've seen in my life well I hope this idear gets DE's attention

[Hubjump]

I put this in the fan section, but think it might fit with your idea a little better (of which I like your idea).

 

Sentinels Upgrading based on rank:

Things to keep in mind, the cost was made this high to encourage participation in alerts and void, the rank was set that high to encourage using new frames and weapons.  This is meant to be a reward for dedication to the game.

The old sentinel will be capable of upgrading along a set path, which is done by blue prints for the new ones and only usable when the users is rank 7 and then rank 10.  The cost for each first upgrade is 600k credits to buy the blue print and 50,000 to manufacture.  The second upgrade will cost 1 million credits to buy the blue print and 75,000 to manufacture.  The old sentinel will vanish, similar to how weapons blue prints work when made into dual wield.  The new sentinels have some new precepts, while some carry over from the original.  Each upgrade to the sentinels increases their max hp, armor, shield, and attack power.  At max upgrade, they will have about 1/2 the attack power of a normal frame and at first upgrade about 1/3 the attack power.

 

In order to upgrade a sentinel to the next stage, you need to have it at lvl 30, an orokin cell and the upgrade bp.

The path they upgrade along:

Shade upgrades to a robotic wolf form.  No longer capable of firing, they will be restricted to a melee combat.  They have melee similar to an infested charger, but one of the precepts will allow it to use a charge attack every once and awhile for higher damage.  Will still cloak the user, and will not attack unless the user attacks first.  It should teleport to user if the user gets too far from it, to avoid any issues that it may get with being a ground one and getting stuck.

Wolf then upgrades into a robotic knight form.  The final form is about 3/4 the size of a normal warframe, floats off the ground a little.  The knight uses a sword like gram and will once again be restricted to melee attacks only, only now capable of hitting more than one target per attack.  The sentinel carries over the occasional charge attack and stealth, along with the not attacking until the user does.

Wyrm upgrades to a floating mini robot wyvern form.  Now wields dual laser rifles and will firing on targets that are in range.  The dragon loses the ability of the wyrm for the crowd dispersion, in favor of a group shield, similar to how the corpus ones work.  This makes the dragon more prone to be shot at.

Wyvern upgrades to robotic dragooner. Again about 3/4 the size of a normal frame, but floats above the ground by about a foot, bring it up to about shoulder height.  This form uses an orthos type weapon with charge attacks.  The charge attack however, is more like a krestel or glaive with a smaller max range of about 18m.   Carries over the previous precepts of the wyvern form.

Dethcube upgrades to robotic vulture.  Uses a mixture of melee and gun fire, depending on if the enemy is close or far from user, carries over the precepts from dethcube, but vaporize changes to death dive.  Death dive is an up close attack that impacts hard one opponent doing good damage and knocking down multiple opponents in a 1 meter radius.  Same cool down time as vaporize

Hawk upgrades to Reaper.  Again, the Reaper is about 3/4 the size of a frame and floats a little off the ground. No longer having gun attacks, the reaper now wields a scythe, similar to reaper prime.  The attacks hit multiple targets, stunning them, no charge attack.  Death Dive changes to Death Gaze, which hits multiple targets, up to three, similar to damage on vaporize, but on up to 3 targets.  Does not knock down or stun targets.  Same cool down time as vaporize.

New Sentinel:

Oculus: Big robotic looking Eye Ball with 5 tentacles hanging down from it.  Uses a semi-auto ballistic rifle.

Precept:

Seeing is Believing: Will only fire after the user fires. The same idea behind the shade’s precept.

Eye of Beholder: Has an enemy radar function that occasionally turns on, range at min is 8 meters and at max 12 meters.

Oculus upgrades to Robotic Manta like thing.  Uses a sniper rifle, mounted where the tail is, looking similar to the vulkar.  Carries over the same Precepts from oculus.

Manta upgrades to Archer. Archer is about 3/4 the size of a frame and floats a little off the ground Carries over the same precepts as Manta and Oculus.  Weapon is now a bow similar to Paris in function and use, so thunderbolt can be attached on to it.

Nemu: long snake like body. Uses a semi-auto ballistic handgun

Precepts:

Patient Strike: Attacks targets after the master does.

Regeneration: Heals the master every once and awhile with a burst of hp. Min 5 hp max

10 hp restored. Cool down on skill of 1 minute.  Will only activate when enemies are nearby.

Restore: As a passive precept decreases the time needed to be revive, but loses guardian.

Increasing this Precept decreases the time needed by .5 seconds min to a max of 3 seconds.

Nemu upgrades to Robotic Salamander.  Salamander uses dual semi-auto laser pistols. The precepts carry over from Nemu; Patient strike and restore.  Still no guardian.  This one will, like the wolf, teleport too you if you get too far from it.

Regeneration now becomes a group heal, called Heal All, same healing ranges of 5 min d 10 max hp restored, only does so now for a group within a certain range of you. The cool down is still 1 minute. Will only activate when enemies are nearby.

Salamander upgrades to robotic Valkyrie.  Valkyrie is about 3/4 the size of a frame and floats a little off the ground Valkyrie uses quad semi-auto laser pistols.  Valkyrie uses the precepts of salamander and nemu.  Heal All now becomes Massive Regeneration, restoring a min of 10 and a max of 15 hp. The skill cool down is still a minute. Will only activate when enemies are nearby.

I see you are a tf2fan wherenew robo things came out...NO ROBOT UPGRADES TO NONE ROBO LOOKING SENTINALS PLEASE.it will kill the game

[Chaosrejin78]

I don't even know what tf2 is, just thought of these on a whim after I bought onto the design council.  I actually thought of 22 pages of ideas, this was like on page 15-16 I think.  Most of the pages covered 12 new frames I designed.

[Kelkha]

To have Sentinels, roam around, playing music, crawling in the ceiling and cleaning the Dojo, GODS, a sight to see! Wish they add that some day, and if they do so, the Dojo would never look a life-less structure.

[Amistyrja]

Oh the topic is at 69 likes now. I could cry ;____;

[ViralN9]

I'll just leave my +1 here...

[NaniteCircuit]

I think this would be adorable.

[Kaidinah]

To have Sentinels, roam around, playing music, crawling in the ceiling and cleaning the Dojo, GODS, a sight to see! Wish they add that some day, and if they do so, the Dojo would never look a life-less structure.

I know right? Truly a wondrous thought!

[S2Weak]

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[Biquette]

+1

[PopTartZombie]

I came back to this post, then realized why its not in game yet. DE are tired from U9. They'll most likely tackle this later.

 

let them nap guys.

Edited July 23, 2013 by PopTartZombie

[Burning_Saint]

I love all these ideas. +1 from me.