DoomFruit Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Sometimes, I've come across enemies which do not have their guns presented and ready (so they're not in the alert state) and whose triangles on the minimap do not have a dot in the middle (also indicating that they are not alert), but killing them inexplicably breaks my stealth multiplier. What's up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Bump. Still an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolettaFoxx Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Yep I've had the same thing for a looong time. Pain in the arse before the little buff to how we can earn Focus, when running high-level Ceres exterminates stealthily was nearly the only way to earn Focus. I wanted to go back to try it, instead of just farming Draco but this bug where my stealth combo breaks randomly is just so annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 14 days and 3 patches later, it's still happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 10 more days, 2 more patches, still broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Another patch, and still nothing on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 2x more patches, 2x ignored issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 And this is still going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatsniper Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Have they recently spawned? Killing mobs before 5 seconds after spawning causes your stealth multiplier to break. I don't know why DE thought this was a good idea since mob spawns are limited while undetected to begin with. Might have something to do with that Uranus Sabotage exploit bug I found back in October, or just a bandaid for their crappy spawn control system, or both. What counts as a stealth kill is very finicky to begin with. If you are using a bow and arrow, with a punch-through mod, and kill two mobs walking in view of each other, your multiplier will break because the mob that was killed second witnessed his buddy's death for a fraction of a second before dying himself, sending him into a semi-alerted state. It's incredibly stupid, I know. You're better off using Opticore with punch-through (the fully charged shot is silent, funnily enough) since the bullet is hitscan. I don't have any more explanations if what I said here doesn't fit with the problems you are having, as they've been either patched out or I haven't encountered them (random mobs knowing exactly where you are, Drahk and their masters don't alert other Grineer mobs to your position [still a bug, but not relevant here], etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) These are isolated mobs, which I'm killing with a slide attack while invisible passing to the side of them (so not colliding with and alerting them), or a single silenced lex prime headshot. They have their guns down, and their minimap icons are hollow. Every single cue that the game gives me indicates that they are not alert and will not break my stealth multiplier. EDIT: I have no idea how recently they spawned. While I have seen enemies pop into existence right in front of me on several occasions, they're not the ones which I'm attempting to stealth kill. Edited June 3, 2016 by DoomFruit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Still happening after 18.14.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 Still going on after the lunaro update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarticulate Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 On 5/31/2016 at 9:34 PM, Boatsniper said: Have they recently spawned? Killing mobs before 5 seconds after spawning causes your stealth multiplier to break. I don't know why DE thought this was a good idea since mob spawns are limited while undetected to begin with. Might have something to do with that Uranus Sabotage exploit bug I found back in October, or just a bandaid for their crappy spawn control system, or both. The issue they meant to combat was probably spawn camping certain tiles in certain mission types. Rescue, for example, will continually spawn enemies right at the exits to the prison after rescuing the hostage (immediately behind the previously locked doors) as long as you are sufficiently far away from the spawn points, which allowed players to continually snipe enemies down. On 6/3/2016 at 8:51 AM, DoomFruit said: EDIT: I have no idea how recently they spawned. While I have seen enemies pop into existence right in front of me on several occasions, they're not the ones which I'm attempting to stealth kill. I'm almost certain this is what you're running into. I know I've seen enemies spawn in the next tile as late as the door to the tile opening in front of me. This is easily testable with an Ivara stacking enemy radar mods (my standard Ivara build actually runs the Enemy Radar aura with Animal Sense on my Sentinel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 It's still going on. Either get rid of this weird alert-but-not-alert state or stop the game from lying to us about the enemies' state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share Posted July 9, 2016 Still happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 SotR hotfix 11 has come, and the game still lies to us about what the enemies are actually doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiverick Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Thats why I stoped playing stealth exterminations, even stealth finishers break the combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----Fenrir---- Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I had the same issue and gave up on stealth farming because of it. Some non-alerted enemies would just randomly break my stealth modifier for no discernible reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 And this is STILL going on after SotR hotfix 13. How much longer is this bug going to remain unfixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share Posted July 28, 2016 And still present after SotR Update 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share Posted July 30, 2016 Still going on after SotR update 1.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share Posted August 4, 2016 And guess what continues to happen in SotR update 2 (hint: it's not stealth working properly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 Still happens after SoTR 2.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted August 24, 2016 Author Share Posted August 24, 2016 And the bug is still present in the Nekros PA version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)tpesconi Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 It's the now pointless: no-kill till 5 secs after the enemy spawn. DE implemented that to fix an exploit of continuous infinite stealth kills, but since DE nerfed (months ago) the infinite spawns when killing stealth, what is the point of that mechanic besides frustrate players? Please DE, just remove it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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