ChaotikDreamz Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) After playing around with mods on my despair i noticed that adding (No Return) that pistol armor piercing mod. That when added it drops the despair's dmg by exactly 1/2. Don't know if this is intended or a broken mod/weapon issue. But my despair with lvl 13 Hornet Strike 200% DMG hits in this order. BTW. these are center mass shot dmg numbers no weak spots. Medium grineer - 247 expected 50% increase on dmg to those types. All other grineer - 165 exactly 200% of 55 dmg Light infested - 82 expected again 50% less dmg to those types Acients - 165 Corpus - 165 unless headshot 660 :P Now as soon as i add (No Return) i get no elemental dmg and all the above dmg numbers listed above are exactly split in half. ex. all max none light infested and all grineer hit 82 and light infested hits 43 med grineer 165 since they get the +50% bonus. And as soon as i take off (No Return) all DMG back to normal this is the only elemental mod to do this all others are working fine. Edited June 12, 2013 by ChaotikDreamz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatcher Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) Despair already has 100% innate armor pierce, so adding No Return might cause issues with the weapon since it already have max armor pierce, so I suggest you keep it off as it won't make any difference, even without that ''Bug''. Edited June 12, 2013 by tatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 After playing around with mods on my despair i noticed that adding (No Return) that pistol armor piercing mod. That when added it drops the despair's dmg by exactly 1/2. Don't know if this is intended or a broken mod/weapon issue. But my despair with lvl 13 Hornet Strike 200% DMG hits in this order. BTW. these are center mass shot dmg numbers no weak spots. Medium grineer - 247 expected 50% increase on dmg to those types. All other grineer - 165 exactly 200% of 55 dmg Light infested - 82 expected again 50% less dmg to those types Acients - 165 Corpus - 165 unless headshot 660 :P Now as soon as i add (No Return) i get no elemental dmg and all the above dmg numbers listed above are exactly split in half. ex. all max none light infested and all grineer hit 82 and light infested hits 43 med grineer 165 since they get the +50% bonus. And as soon as i take off (No Return) all DMG back to normal this is the only elemental mod to do this all others are working fine. Are you sure its not just a display error ? happens a lot Despair already has 100% innate armor pierce, so adding No Return might cause issues with the weapon since it already have max armor pierce, so I suggest you keep it off as it won't make any difference, even without that ''Bug''. if that was true then fangs should have same error.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaotikDreamz Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 nope its not a display error tested hosting, non-hosting, solo, private, and invite only just to cover all grounds. even many diffent maps including the void. Adding No Return literally halves the dmg of the despair. And you make a good point about the fangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khranitel Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I had tested Despair with and without No Return about a week ago. Damage applied properly, everything worked as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depar Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 and armor ignoring dmg and armor pirce dmg are to kind of things :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGerbil Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Are you sure its not just a display error ? happens a lot if that was true then fangs should have same error.... fangs armor ignore, which is not the same as armor pierce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaotikDreamz Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) Your all right fangs do ingnore amror i forgot that but its no different then the snipertron and the snipertron adds the dmg of the armor pierce mod (piercing hit) with no issues. EDIT: Just tested again it seems it is defently a Non-Hosting bug. Seems last night was just weird noW its only doing it if i am not hosting or solo. Edited June 12, 2013 by ChaotikDreamz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandarex Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Thank you for the extensive testing you've done, OP. Can anyone else reproduce the same error? It might end up being a serious bug in a long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoshesToDoshes Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 In my experience, the damage values on the despair are halved, but are shown twice. I saw a 97 damage hit pop up twice on a Grineer with a single hit without Barrel Diffusion. Might be some strange anomaly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatcher Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Are you sure its not just a display error ? happens a lot if that was true then fangs should have same error.... No, issues can be weapon specific, not necessarily the mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatcher Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) fangs armor ignore, which is not the same as armor pierce.Yeah it's the same.. Both Kunai/Despair and Fang have the same 100% armor Ignore/Pierce, same thing. Edited June 12, 2013 by tatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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