Space Pirates! Environment Proposition

[Luminati07]

Hey everyone,

 

I'm sure many of you have seen the Space Pirates thread, if you haven't, here it is - https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/15939-suggestion-new-faction-space-pirates'>Link

 

I originally posted this idea here - https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/63841-new-maps-to-look-like-avatar-2009-movie-world-good-idea'>Link

But, I thought it warranted its own thread. 

 

The original topic was someone asking for an environment like Avatar (2009), you know, with the floating islands, magical forests etc.

I said that it didn't really fit Warframe, but a normal forest would be a great environment.

 

Then I got thinking. We know that DE is bringing out a new faction, and we know that they are interested in the Space Pirates idea.

Why not introduce a forest environment for the new faction. (this is purely speculative that the next faction will be Space Pirates).

 

A forest could be their hideout.

They use forests for several reasons.

1. It's harder to track them.

2. It's very easy for them to lay traps for intruders, and they are hard to spot.

3. They have the advantage of elevation, they can fire down on us from the trees.

4. Easy for them to camouflage themselves.

5. Lots of cover for them.

6. Lots of ways for them to escape if it gets too dangerous.

 

The list goes on and on.

We all know how awesome forests can look in video games, and Warframe would be no exception.

 

 

 

Sure, Warframe is no Crysis. But those are just some examples of how good a forest environment can look in games.

They can have rivers, houses, clearings, treetop hideouts etc.

The possibilities are endless.

 

The only issues that I see are:

1. It'd be a lot of work, so this sort of thing would have to be way down the line.

2. Depending on the amount of foliage, it could be very taxing on your system.

 

Thanks for reading, thoughts?

 

*Edit*

Just imagine the hidden area potential!

I don't need to put my thoughts here, I'm sure you can imagine the awesome ways designers could hide areas in a forest.

Edited June 14, 2013 by Nugget_

[JonathanJupiter]

I can see this down the long line in the future, but yeah I like the idea. +1

[inorite3]

I imagine something like the environment in Halo 4 would work pretty well.

http://www.velocitygamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/e32012_halo4_campaign7.jpg.jpg 
http://benmerrick3d.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/halo4_artwork_06.jpg 
http://halofanforlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/m20field.jpg 
http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/5012a70b69bedd730d000007-960/halo-4-book.jpg 
http://videogame-art.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/VideoGameArt_Halo4_DripStone02_DavidLesperance.jpg 
 

It sort of gives off a Warframe vibe, the way that nature and technology intertwine.

 

 

Also, I think some more "volcanic" type maps would be pretty nice too.

 

http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/990/1115234657.jpg

http://doubleupgaming.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-game.jpg

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/610/610501/star-wars-episode-iii-revenge-of-the-sith-20050506062929208.jpg

Edited June 13, 2013 by inorite3

[Copperll]

Nice ideas! Those are awesome pictures right there! 

[Dude_on_the_Moon]

space ninjas , space forest ,=))

[Grand-Dozer]

It would be nice to have some missions/maps that were much more open. Slightly less so like a having players be rats in a maze seeking the cheese (linear routes) maybe a larger open map, with objectives spread out, and objective markers.

Then you give players the freedom to arrive at the objective and complete it. Missions like "Disable the Network array" could end up with network server stations spread out along a large open forest map like above, with a centralized-ish extraction point.

What I'm getting at is, I'd love to see forest/wilderness areas, but the small arena to arena format seems counter-intuitive to that type of design, unless its linear forests (it can happen).

[Luminati07]

It would be nice to have some missions/maps that were much more open. Slightly less so like a having players be rats in a maze seeking the cheese (linear routes) maybe a larger open map, with objectives spread out, and objective markers.

Then you give players the freedom to arrive at the objective and complete it. Missions like "Disable the Network array" could end up with network server stations spread out along a large open forest map like above, with a centralized-ish extraction point.

What I'm getting at is, I'd love to see forest/wilderness areas, but the small arena to arena format seems counter-intuitive to that type of design, unless its linear forests (it can happen).

It'd be nice to have more open maps. Not too open though, it shouldn't end up being like an open world game.

 

It's fairly simple for DE to keep restrictions in the level, there are much better options than the locked doors we have in most missions.

Cliffs, deep waters, landslides.

There's plenty of natural ways to stop the missions being open world, and I think they'd look great.

 

I agree with the freedom part of your post, more freedom in missions is never a bad thing.

[ValhaHazred]

The locked doors are there because of the way level randomization works. It also means each open space needs to be separated by doors. The game wouldn't know how to connect them otherwise.

Anyway, I'd like to see some more contemporary areas in ruins. Concrete skyscrapers with slightly odd architecture and future language to make it clear it isn't modern earth ruins. Wound through the shattered buildings and highways the pirates have built trap laden shanty towns out of scavenged materials.

[Luminati07]

The locked doors are there because of the way level randomization works. It also means each open space needs to be separated by doors. The game wouldn't know how to connect them otherwise.

Anyway, I'd like to see some more contemporary areas in ruins. Concrete skyscrapers with slightly odd architecture and future language to make it clear it isn't modern earth ruins. Wound through the shattered buildings and highways the pirates have built trap laden shanty towns out of scavenged materials.

I know how the levels are generated, and I know why the locked doors are there. Locked doors are also used (in many games) as a way to block off exploration. I probably should have made it more clear, in regards to what I meant about the locked doors.

I didn't mean that DE only has them there to stop exploration.

 

The pictures you posted are great though!

Edited June 14, 2013 by Nugget_

[ValhaHazred]

My mistake :P

Have some more then!

[Luminati07]

Very cool.

Reminds me of Crysis 3.

[Countess_Hapmuhr]

I like the idea of jungles with ruins because that would fit the ancient theme of the galaxy much better. After all, we have been shown that this is faaaaaaaar awaaaaaayyyyy into the future, so where are all the cool crumbling ruins?

 

Oh and ... before anyone says it, EWOKS!

[X3Evanescence]

+1!

[Luminati07]

I like the idea of jungles with ruins because that would fit the ancient theme of the galaxy much better. After all, we have been shown that this is faaaaaaaar awaaaaaayyyyy into the future, so where are all the cool crumbling ruins?

 

Oh and ... before anyone says it, EWOKS!

It does make sense that there'd be some crumbling ruins of ancient civilizations, and they'd make for some awesome tilesets!

I don't know whether I'd prefer a full forest, or a dead city covered in foliage....

I have a feeling the dead city would make for a much more interesting and atmospheric location.

[fatpig84]

I like the idea of jungles with ruins because that would fit the ancient theme of the galaxy much better. After all, we have been shown that this is faaaaaaaar awaaaaaayyyyy into the future, so where are all the cool crumbling ruins?

 

Oh and ... before anyone says it, EWOKS!

 

Would be funnier if you are all cool and stuff, then something hellish spawn from the jungle attacks you :O

[Mizukage]

Space Forest? Sounds like another Soviet Russia.

 

In Space Forest, Grineer ninja's you. Hurhurhur. I like this idea, though. A Forest sounds fun.

[Luminati07]

 

 

Also, I think some more "volcanic" type maps would be pretty nice too.

 

http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/990/1115234657.jpg

http://doubleupgaming.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-game.jpg

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/610/610501/star-wars-episode-iii-revenge-of-the-sith-20050506062929208.jpg

Volcanic tilesets would be cool. Some interesting environmental hazards could also be added.

 

Perhaps the Grineer could have a factory near a volcano. Using the lava / heat to forge the metal used in construction of ships, armour and weapons.. (I have no idea how forging works, or how plausible lava is for it)

That's just one idea.

[ValhaHazred]

Forging probably wouldn't go so well, but a Grineer Geo-thermal powerplant could work.

[Paradoxbomb]

I'm not sure if I'm fully bought by the whole forest thing, but the idea of foliage overridden colonies sounds like a viable idea, especially as an Earth tileset. I personally see space pirates hiding out in more of a atmosphere-based station or colony, like some kind of tent city made out of scrap metal. Although if I remember correctly, DE was planning some kind of desert/wasteland tilesets, I feel that might be better fitting for what're essentially rogues and bandits. Still, anything's possible.

[ValhaHazred]

The desert wasteland is the new Grineer planetary tileset.

I always think jungles + pirates/bandits/guerrillas because the most famous historical examples operated in tropical environments. It's very easy to hide in a jungle, especially in an setting where an AI can pick up life-signs from across the solar system. What better place to mask you than the most alive biome in existence?

[Luminati07]

Forging probably wouldn't go so well, but a Grineer Geo-thermal powerplant could work.

Yeah, that definitely makes more sense.

Even when I typed it, I didn't think a factory really made any sense.

[darksithis002]

like the idea of a forest, but it would be way down the line. and they'd have to balance it so it wouldn't crash systems just by loading. if you think the connections are bad now, think how they'll be with something taxing like that. i would like to see forests tho.

[asurako989]

they made a grineer winter soldier army set so im assuming that we're going to have a snowy environment on one of the grineer planet tileset. this idea is great and i like it :D

[PlumTheHermitCrab]

I would LOVE to see a forest/jungle tileset. 

[InFlames]

i don't really like this.

mixing games is not the solution guys o:

If you keep up with this in some time your gonna be asking for friggin boats crossing the grineer space ships .-.

How about creating a faction of Green alien ET's with some wierd guns, or some messed up creatures in far distant planets in another galaxy?

Let's not mix forests with atmosphere-less planets and with space ships. 

Edited June 17, 2013 by Mr.Pava