oceano4 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 A single tentacle is already kinda...okay I guess, but % chance makes things just worse. Also, what about missions where you take no mellee, such as Sorties with weapon modifiers? It;s no longer a passive anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceano4 Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share Posted May 14, 2016 Oh while we're talking about Hydroid, can Tempest Barage please be made a single handed ability yet? All he does is point, and Freeze, fireball, soul punch, smite are all one handed. Hell, even Radial Blond can be used on the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)KickassNinja14 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 1 hour ago, oceano4 said: , but % chance makes things just worse. they said that it will be 100% since one tentacle isn't that OP. listen carefully next time and what about excalibur his passive is increased speed and damage with swords what if he is doing a shotgun only sortie its the same exact thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterLutter Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 1 hour ago, oceano4 said: Also, what about missions where you take no mellee, such as Sorties with weapon modifiers? It;s no longer a passive anymore. This isnt a valid argument considering that some frames already have a passive which doesnt work in some cases. Mesa with Melee-only actually gets -50HP; Excalibur and Wukang lose their passives too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceano4 Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share Posted May 14, 2016 1 minute ago, (XB1)KickassNinja14 said: they said that it will be 100% since one tentacle isn't that OP. listen carefully next time and what about excalibur his passive is increased speed and damage with swords what if he is doing a shotgun only sortie its the same exact thing. They were still discussing it, they weren't 100% sure yet. Of they do have it a 100% chance, then that's not too bad I guess. And Excals passive works for his Exalted blade, so it's still there wherever he goes atleast. Still the passive someone nods very situational, the idea of healing on Water that was datamined wasn't too bad, as far as I'm aware, every tileset has a tiny bit of water on their levels somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceano4 Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share Posted May 14, 2016 Just now, ButterLutter said: This isnt a valid argument considering that some frames already have a passive which doesnt work in some cases. Mesa with Melee-only actually gets -50HP; Excalibur and Wukang lose their passives too. Mesa has multiple passives, better reload and fire rate for pistols, depending on their type. Like I said for Excal, his Exalted blade always works with his passive, and for Wukong, you're right there. His passive does seem a bit lackluster, but I assume it works with his Prima Fury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterLutter Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, (XB1)KickassNinja14 said: they said that it will be 100% since one tentacle isn't that OP. listen carefully next time and what about excalibur his passive is increased speed and damage with swords what if he is doing a shotgun only sortie its the same exact thing. funny that you say this, could say the same about you. Only Rebecca said it wouldnt be op. Scott on the other hand clearly said one tentacle might be already op and in the end he is in charge to decide this and not rebecca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 It would be OP if it was 100% like Scott said. A free CC on anything? I would run around ground slamming everything that bothered me. Maybe they should do something different like bonuses to pets if you bring them. And if you bring carrier with the parrot skin his vac ability when being used knocks an enemy down and drags them towards you. And if you kill that particular enemy you get DOUBLE LOOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzoneSlayer Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 2 hours ago, ButterLutter said: This isnt a valid argument considering that some frames already have a passive which doesnt work in some cases. Mesa with Melee-only actually gets -50HP; Excalibur and Wukang lose their passives too. No they don't lose their passives. They have stance ultimates and mesa has multiple passives to compensate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Asdeft Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 5 hours ago, OzoneSlayer said: No they don't lose their passives. They have stance ultimates and mesa has multiple passives to compensate It is still not valid. If mesa cannot use pistols and is forced into melee, guess what she doesn't get a passive. Also in what way does Mesa having multiple passives compensate for the fact she can lose them. Imagine a bow/melee only mission where suddenly Banshee does not have one either. Nyx's passive won't do anything vs Infested either. Passives do not have to always come into play even if there are limiters involved, you just look at that as part of the limiter. Sure Wukong and Excal can summon without a melee weapon, but realistically they won't be getting good use out of them without melee weapons. This Hydroid Passive looks awesome to me as an occasional Hydroid player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceano4 Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 40 minutes ago, (PS4)Asdeft said: It is still not valid. If mesa cannot use pistols and is forced into melee, guess what she doesn't get a passive. Also in what way does Mesa having multiple passives compensate for the fact she can lose them. Imagine a bow/melee only mission where suddenly Banshee does not have one either. Nyx's passive won't do anything vs Infested either. Passives do not have to always come into play even if there are limiters involved, you just look at that as part of the limiter. Sure Wukong and Excal can summon without a melee weapon, but realistically they won't be getting good use out of them without melee weapons. This Hydroid Passive looks awesome to me as an occasional Hydroid player. Lets hope it's atleast a 100% chance, it;s FAR from OP, considering that Hydroid is more than likely one of the least used frames, being the best in not many areas I can think of, his 1 being a static ability (really should be a 1 handed ability), his 4 being inaccurate as hell sometimes, and his 2 still tied to duration, and not range like Slash Dash/Rhino Charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquasurge Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 i think hydroid passive should be this King of the seven seas: increased holstering and unholstering rate enemies who are knocked down within x meters of hydroid have a high chance to summon a great white shark (per enemy that is) that devour and disarm enemies that would dare to attack hydroid. number of sharks is capped at 7 max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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