dartcraft Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Mag is as useful as hydroid by now. I demand bringing % dmg back as a founder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 even comboing all her abilities doesnt matter now, her abilities DONT scale with enemy health and shields like they said they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahuHordika Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Just now, -Vernoc- said: u didn´t read my post , did u? It seems that you're the one who didn't read. Your complaint is about polarize, but you want to take back everything just for it, completely disergarding the changes to her other abilities, not big changes but buffs nonetheless. So instead of taking away the better form of the rest of her kit for one ability why not just ask to change back the scaling of Polarize instead? Wanting to roll everything back, when you ask them to make a change anyways, is a rather kneejerk reaction while the more logical solution is to simply ask them to give back a proper scaling, since Polarize is all you're complaining about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketec Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I tried to mod mag polarize - nothing works. It is expensive, very short range, limited damage AND it leaves too many corpus alive - the environment blocks the shield explosion now. i used it in the middle of lvl 8 corpus , in a room - half of them were still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahuHordika Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 So just to make it clear, Polarize is the only thing in her kit that is considered worse after this, right? Not saying it's in a good spot but that's all I see people complaining about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarticulate Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I haven't gotten home to try yet, but... I assume the reason why Polarize isn't killing anything is because shields previously all popped simultaneously. Now that it's a moving wave, the first enemy it hits will pop, depleting the shields of enemies around it, leaving no shields left to pop when the wave reaches them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latiac Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Just now, RahuHordika said: So just to make it clear, Polarize is the only thing in her kit that is considered worse after this, right? Not saying it's in a good spot but that's all I see people complaining about. Crush seems to have improved if anything. On the edge about Magnetise and Pull has stayed the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 and if anyone says my duration isnt enough, i could see the wave reaching the enemyies, i know that magnetize(new bullet attractor) has 10 seconds of duration which is enough for damage and cc testing. still no good results on high level are comming from what im seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernoc Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, RahuHordika said: It seems that you're the one who didn't read. Your complaint is about polarize, but you want to take back everything just for it, completely disergarding the changes to her other abilities, not big changes but buffs nonetheless. So instead of taking away the better form of the rest of her kit for one ability why not just ask to change back the scaling of Polarize instead? Wanting to roll everything back, when you ask them to make a change anyways, is a rather kneejerk reaction while the more logical solution is to simply ask them to give back a proper scaling, since Polarize is all you're complaining about. the problem is that all the changes are only interesting for low lv imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelisImpurrator Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 6 minutes ago, (PS4)Tactless_Ninja said: I had a thought. What IF you somehow combined these powers with some sort of projectile weapon or blunt object. Crazy right? Oop. Someone said it. 5 minutes ago, OverlordMcGeek said: ^ You mean you are perfectly fine that they flipped her usefulness to another faction and that what they stated wasn't what was implimented? As for Magnetize I say it's about time. 3+years of asking exactly of this. How is she not useful against Corpus? Does she need to vaporize a faction instantly to be useful against it? You have two guns and a melee weapon, her kit makes enemies exceptionally vulnerable to two guns and a melee weapon, math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubbi Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Ugh all she needed was buffs so that she's usefull against other factions as well. The nerf really wasn't needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I just further tested on lvl 125 heavy gunners i used all abilities butt pull and couldnt even do 10% of their health with abilities even after armor strip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahuHordika Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Yet you're still asking to take away all the buffs to the rest of her kit when you could simply just ask DE to change Polarize back to a percentage based scaling instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multicom-EN- Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Just now, RahuHordika said: Yet you're still asking to take away all the buffs to the rest of her kit when you could simply just ask DE to change Polarize back to a percentage based scaling instead. ...Which is what he also did. "Or get changed to deal % dmg and not fix numbers." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 minute ago, FelisImpurrator said: Oop. Someone said it. How is she not useful against Corpus? Does she need to vaporize a faction instantly to be useful against it? You have two guns and a melee weapon, her kit makes enemies exceptionally vulnerable to two guns and a melee weapon, math. She isnt useful against corpus because she cannot even remove all their shields anymore. her only use right now is cc and armor strip both of which are done better through other means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketec Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Didn't bother testing the rest - but crush is only stronger if you have mag procs on enemy (and someone was talking about it being a fixed dmg value, not scaling). 2 is a crappy vauban imitation with some damage. I don't see any real use for mag right now besides messing around in med-low missions. Polarize needs to drop range mod requirement - let duration dictate how far it goes. Edited May 27, 2016 by Ketec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydroxate Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I brought it to a crossfire mission, everything was dying! I modded for duration and strength, she works great guys! I am loving the rework! Now to try volt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteelRat Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 The old Polarize had it's damage scale, and you got good AoE damage. What is the point of stripping the shields of a dozen prod crewman if it doesn't damage their health? I was only able to use Shield polarize to kill with a group of shield ospreys packed together. Good work DE, you just nerfed mag so that no one wants to play her anymore. i was hoping for shield polarize to work on armor... but no had to nerf it against shields to also it sounds like she farts now when she does bullet jumping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordMcGeek Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 minute ago, FelisImpurrator said: Oop. Someone said it. How is she not useful against Corpus? Does she need to vaporize a faction instantly to be useful against it? You have two guns and a melee weapon, her kit makes enemies exceptionally vulnerable to two guns and a melee weapon, math. ... Brain much? Usefulness does not mean utter trash when flipped. She still had use against Grineer before this update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 No significant damage, lacking range on cc skills, this new mag is far worse that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahuHordika Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, Latiac said: Crush seems to have improved if anything. On the edge about Magnetise and Pull has stayed the same. I mean this speaks volumes about all these supposed mag supporters or Mag herself if everyone is claiming she is ruined because of one ability underperforming. I see that her other abilities were meant to work in tandem though, still however I can agree on returning the scaling back to being based on percentage instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordMcGeek Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Just now, Hydroxate said: I brought it to a crossfire mission, everything was dying! I modded for duration and strength, she works great guys! I am loving the rework! Now to try volt! Use the capacitance augment. The suirvivability has gone through the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) disregard. mistook what someone said. Edited May 27, 2016 by Kurayami_No_Yenshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyPeanutt Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 29 minutes ago, Latiac said: Nope, it's actually worse than that. It fails to kill level 12's. join the nerf brigade! then you'll be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood_Poppy Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) Polarize & Magnetize Duration are too Short.. i hope they increased the Duration... 5 & 10 second are not enough... and The Magnetize Bubble.. Gosh.. It So Small.. Even Nullifier Bubble Look Big than Than Mag Magnetize Bubble.. and i'm using 183% Duration/145% Range/130 Eff/145 Str Edited May 27, 2016 by Blood_Poppy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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