Warframe Market Overhaul

[[DE]Taylor]

With the reveal of the 3-Part Update series, the hype surrounding Kavats, the new Warframe, and the War Within is all too real - but there's something else that your Platinum and Credits might be excited about: the Market overhaul. 

Those of you who watch our Devstreams may have seen Rebecca’s brief tour of it, but I am here to answer the “what” and the “why”s of this upcoming rework to the in-game Market. This overhaul is coming with the Specters of the Rail Update. 

TL;DR: Look forward to the following:

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• Hide/Show Owned Button
• Public Wishlists
• Blueprints and Built Items are in the same place
• Better Categories
• Search Function
• Revised Platinum prices for a variety of content!

Two big motivators behind this rework are pretty straight-forward: a) to make it easier to find what you want and to see what’s available; and b) to allow the Market to grow as more content is added in-game. These two factors are important for improving both old and new player experience, and manifest themselves in the overhaul through 3 major changes:

New Design! A Tab System

A large majority of Market-related complaints we receive relate to the confusion between built items (aka Platinum-purchased) and Blueprints. With the current Market set-up, a lot of players do not realize that there is a Blueprint Section for Warframes, Weapons, and Sentinels. This confusion tends to lead to the quick dismissal that the Majority of Warframe's content is only available for Platinum. If you've been playing Warframe for a while, you know this is not the case. This new Market makes that much more clear. 

We want to make sure that all Tenno know they can craft all Warframes, Weapons, and Sentinels in-game (with the exception of exclusive and vaulted content). To do so, we’re introducing a new set-up, where each item has only one page with three tabs full of information to help guide players. 

The first tab is the About section, listing the Item bio, its stats, and its price in Platinum.

The second tab is the Build section. Here, players can see the crafting requirements and purchase the Blueprint. For content that is obtained through quests or clan research, this information will be listed here instead, outlining explicitly which room/quest is required for the components. This way, players can see that all Warframes and Weapons (with some exceptions) are available to build in-game, even if their Blueprints are not purchasable, unlike the current system.

The third tab is the Related section. The items listed here could range from cosmetics, to mods, to weapons, but are tailored to what would look best to help players optimize their Fashion Frame game.

Better Categories and Search Bar! 

No more will users have to scroll through helmets, armor and skins just to find the perfect Syandana. We’ve revised our sections to not only simplify your searches, as with Weapons, Warframes and Sentinels, but to also allow you to easily browse through specific types of items. 

Cosmetic items are now divided by type, including armor sets, helmets, skins, Deluxe skins, Syandanas, and animation sets. Looking to enhance a specific Warframe? The new search functionality will allow users to be even more specific when browsing the market. Typing in a term from the Home section will pull results from the entire market, while doing so in a sub-section will limit your results to items in that particular category. 

See it in action here (but excuse the missing dioramas, they aren’t hooked up yet for noggles):

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https://gfycat.com/EqualUnequaledBustard

Better UI

We’ve added new indicators to the UI to make using the Market a much easier process. Whether you’re browsing, or searching for a specific item, the toggle-able ‘Hide Owned’ button will allow you to limit your results even further. See how it works here (but again, excuse the lack of dioramas):

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https://gfycat.com/UntidySlushyGreyhounddog

Bundles will still indicate whether you own an item on their About page, but they will now also reveal whether any included cosmetics are only usable for content you do not own (such as Orbiter, Weapon or Warframe skins). If you’re looking to save on Platinum, items that that are part of a bundle will disclose which packs they can be bought in on their individual About page. 

For those saving up for a bundle or gear, the Wishlist is a great way to keep track of all your coveted items! An “Add To Wishlist” button will be available at the bottom right hand corner of every about page - from bundles to Warframes to gear. You can search through Much like the ‘owned’ icon on thumbnails, Wishlisted items will be given their own icon as well, and players will now be able to search through their friends’ Wishlists if they are feeling particularly generous!

General Clean Up

While looking at the Market's usability, we took a look at aspects of the economy. We set the Platinum prices for some items over 2 years ago, and things have a change a lot since then (understatement).  Below are the revised prices that will be released with the rework update, but keep in mind everything is subject to change:

Changes:*

• Fieldron Sample, Mutagen Sample, and Detonite Ampules have been removed and are replaced by Fieldron, Mutagen Mass, and Detonite Injector at the price of 10 Platinum each. 
• Loki and Mag’s prices have been swapped to reflect their change in status as Starter Frames. Loki's cost will be 175 Platinum and Mag's cost will be 75 Platinum.

The Credit Bundles will be updated as follows:

• Frugal Credit Bundle: costs 50 Platinum in exchange for 50,000 Credits.
• High Roller Credit Bundle: costs 90 Platinum in exchange for 175,000 Credits.

Fusion Core packs have been reviewed as well:

• Gold Fusion Pack: costs 80 Platinum in exchange for 15 Fusion Cores. 14 Cores are Guaranteed to be R5 Rare, with a very small chance at a Legendary Core for the 15th.** 
• Silver Fusion Pack: costs 50 Platinum in exchange for 10 Fusion Cores. This pack includes 5 R5 Rare Cores and 5 other Cores with a chance of being Rare.
• Bronze Fusion Pack: costs 35 Platinum in exchange for 5 Fusion Cores. Three of these Cores are guaranteed to be R5 Rare, with 2 guaranteed Uncommon.

Additions:

• We’re adding a 3 Forma pack for 35 Platinum.
• A 30 Day Resource Booster will available for 200 Platinum.

See you for Specters of the Rail, Tenno! 

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*Truly, this is all subject to change. 
** This in particular may change, but we wanted to see your thoughts first. 

[NinjaMan]

Interesting, thanks for all your work DE! :D

Edited June 30, 2016 by NinjaManTR
That 3 forma pack though :clem:

[NightmareT12]

13 minutes ago, [DE]Taylor said:

[...]

• Fieldron Sample, Mutagen Sample, and Detonite Ampules have been removed and are replaced by Fieldron, Mutagen Mass, and Detonite Injector at the price of 10 Platinum each. 
• Loki and Mag’s prices have been swapped to reflect their change in status as Starter Frames. Loki's cost will be 175 Platinum and Mag's cost will be 75 Platinum.

Fusion Core packs have been reviewed as well:

• Gold Fusion Pack: costs 80 Platinum in exchange for 15 Fusion Cores. 14 Cores are Guaranteed to be R5 Rare, with a very small chance at a Legendary Core for the 15th.** 

Additions:

• We’re adding a 3 Forma pack for 35 Platinum.

So, everything in bold goes in the right direction. I was always wondering why we didn't have certain resources in the market and Loki/Mag were not swapped.
 

Also, 3 forma for 35 Plat sounds like a really good deal for when you don't have much time, don't have resources and want to get an item that needs 3 polarities for certain assured. So HECK YES.

Having a chance Legendary Core in the R5 pack sounds good, whatever small the chance may be, but I'm still internally debating the 80 Plat price though...

Thanks for the heads up Taylor :)

[-DragonOfTheWest-]

Sounds awesome

[Ixxyness]

Love the changes

[xRufus7x]

Will Tenogen items appear in the market now?

[-Amaterasu-]

Excited to see what the new market will bring but

19 minutes ago, [DE]Taylor said:

 

• Gold Fusion Pack: costs 80 Platinum in exchange for 15 Fusion Cores. 14 Cores are Guaranteed to be R5 Rare, with a very small chance at a Legendary Core for the 15th.** 

I can only hope "very small" is > 1%

[Inarticulate]

22 minutes ago, [DE]Taylor said:

• Gold Fusion Pack: costs 80 Platinum in exchange for 15 Fusion Cores. 14 Cores are Guaranteed to be R5 Rare, with a very small chance at a Legendary Core for the 15th.** 

Sold. Finally something to spend my Platinum on.

[Dobermann92]

Everything is good, except this:

" Gold Fusion Pack: costs 80 Platinum in exchange for 15 Fusion Cores. 14 Cores are Guaranteed to be R5 Rare, with a very small chance at a Legendary Core for the 15th.** "

Those, who play for free know, that these packs aren't a great value no matter how low it will cost, but there are people who pay for the platinum and if they see one of their friends getting a Legendary core, then they buy a pack, and another and so on and they get just gold cores they will be very frustrated and It potentially drive away people from the game. I highly advise you not to implement this feature, just stay with the 15 gold cores.

Edited June 30, 2016 by Dobermann92

[Keltik0ne]

Looks a lot better than what we have and that's for sure.

[ShiraHagane]

inb4 legendary core prices goes to nothing on trading

[AM-Bunny]

Any word on the Dev Workshop that was mentioned regarding the new Void System that's coming in Specters Of The Rail?

[RagingGrizzly]

5 minutes ago, Dobermann92 said:

Everything is good, except this:

" Gold Fusion Pack: costs 80 Platinum in exchange for 15 Fusion Cores. 14 Cores are Guaranteed to be R5 Rare, with a very small chance at a Legendary Core for the 15th.** "

Those, who play for free know, that these pack aren't a great value no matter how low it will cost, but there are people who pay for the platinum and if they see one of their friends getting a Legendary core, then he buys a pack, and another and so on and he gets just gold cores he will be very frustrated and It potentially drive away people from the game. I highly advise you not to implement this feature, just stay with the 15 gold cores.

I don't see how it could drive people away.

Would you say the same about the Legendary Cores in the sortie drop tables? And even if they do get Leg Cores, we always have Hieracon... it's not like we aren't going to be able to rank mods without Leg Cores.

Edited June 30, 2016 by PUR3K1LL3R

[Kutsus]

All the changes seem great, but i think credit and core prices need to drop a slight bit more to attract way more buyers.

[Jukantos]

7 minutes ago, Dobermann92 said:

Everything is good, except this:

" Gold Fusion Pack: costs 80 Platinum in exchange for 15 Fusion Cores. 14 Cores are Guaranteed to be R5 Rare, with a very small chance at a Legendary Core for the 15th.** "

Those, who play for free know, that these packs aren't a great value no matter how low it will cost, but there are people who pay for the platinum and if they see one of their friends getting a Legendary core, then they buy a pack, and another and so on and they get just gold cores they will be very frustrated and It potentially drive away people from the game. I highly advise you not to implement this feature, just stay with the 15 gold cores.

Yeah, it sounds like that could run into the whole "pack opening" situation with an INCREDIBLY frustrating mindset, because i highly doubt the chance to get one will be much bigger than 5%

[Dobermann92]

Just now, PUR3K1LL3R said:

I don't see how it could drive people away.

Would you say the same about the Legendary Cores in the sortie drop tables?

Sorties are free and RNG based, but these packs are payed with real money (in one way or another). Let me explain it further with an example: You and your friend buy 170 platinum for 9,99$ then you buy 2 gold fusion core pack each. You got 30 gold cores, but your friend got 29 gold cores and a Legendary core. You got different value for the same money. He can max out any mod without the need of credits instantly, while with 30 gold cores you can't max any r10 mod and you will need a lot of credits. You get frustrated because you payed the same amount but you are now behind your friend who did the same. Your friend can also sell the Legendary core for 250-300p (assuming it will be a very small chance to receiver those so it won't affect the market price much), so in the end he got more platinum for the same amount of money. This is bad in either way.

[(PSN)Magician_NG]

I appreciate the addition of a wish list.

There are a number of market items I would like to purchase but I have no intention of buying them until I get a log-in reward market coupon.

 

[(PSN)urkonse]

im happy with rest but CREDITS....seriously.....50pl for amount of creds you can get from 2x sechura/void?  shall be <20p

[Darkwave1098]

Why do credit bundles still exist? Who even buys those!?!?

[Kintori]

37 minutes ago, [DE]Taylor said:

We’re adding a 3 Forma pack for 35 Platinum.

As someone who's currently building up a dojo pretty much by themselves, you have no idea how ecstatic I am about that change lol. Now it may actually be worth the plat for me!

[(XBOX)C0gnitive 0n3]

32 minutes ago, [DE]Taylor said:

Fusion Core packs have been reviewed as well:

• Gold Fusion Pack: costs 80 Platinum in exchange for 15 Fusion Cores. 14 Cores are Guaranteed to be R5 Rare, with a very small chance at a Legendary Core for the 15th.**

This tickled me something fierce.

I've been a staunch supporter of Warframe since I began playing it on console. There was a time when I would have JUMPED at the opportunity to get my hands on a LC. However, coming to terms with how bad RNG is, there is absolutely no way in hell that I'd begin to pay 80p for a "very small chance". For those desperate enough, cores can be had for 2p, at most, in the Trade chat. Seems like this pack, even with it's "very small chance" is about 50p overpriced.

Or you can just farm them: 15+ cores can be farmed in a long Heiracon run.

[Roboplus]

Is there a way to wish list something without making it public? Some of my friends can be a little too generous and I'm not comfortable with them spending money on me.

I'd just want to use it as a bookmark.

[NinjaMan]

On June 30, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Dobermann92 said:

Sorties are free and RNG based, but these packs are payed with real money (in one way or another). Let me explain it further with an example: You and your friend buy 170 platinum for 9,99$ then you buy 2 gold fusion core pack each. You got 30 gold cores, but your friend got 29 gold cores and a Legendary core. You got different value for the same money. He can max out any mod without the need of credits instantly, while with 30 gold cores you can't max any r10 mod and you will need a lot of credits. You get frustrated because you payed the same amount but you are now behind your friend who did the same. Your friend can also sell the Legendary core for 250-300p (assuming it will be a very small chance to receiver those so it won't affect the market price much), so in the end he got more platinum for the same amount of money. This is bad in either way.

I personally don't see the problem with it, that's like saying CS moves people away from the game because they can't get a knife to drop, or the lottery drives people away. They're both very profitable systems of gambling, but tbh I don't see anyone buying the core packs unless they're really new to the game/gambling for a return, or profit from trade chat.

Edited June 30, 2016 by NinjaManTR
Worst case scenario https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ah1uY-c8JqM

[RagingGrizzly]

1 minute ago, Dobermann92 said:

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If I know Leg Cores in this game, if you can get them in any fashion (Aside from being compensated for it from a removal of a yet to be released item) they are going to make the chances 1% or less, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

And that's just RNG for you, both of them always had the chance to get a core. Also, no-one was forcing them to pay for it, they BOTH payed and one was just lucky enough to get one. Sure, it can screw up the market prices and sure, he can make more plat then what he paid for, but by the time he even gets a Leg Core from it, he would've already driven himself into a plat hole for it.

I can't really see anyone selling Leg Cores after the update for more than 80p anyways...

[Maicael]

Sounds pretty good in terms of the UI. I don't think I saw anything about showing us what we've already earned Mastery for, just what we own. Would that be something available to add?

I'm not sure what the idea is with the Cores and Credits if you're wanting to tempt people to purchase or if you want them to play. If you're wanting to tempt them, then I'd agree with others that the prices would need to be a bit lower.