Kialandi Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, VisionAndVoice said: It's not Stalker's vacation room, it's Grineer Queens residence. Queens, as we know, are surviving Orokin, and the room was teased before with Queens in it. It's not the Queens residence. It's completely different. Only similarity are the red lights. Edited July 30, 2016 by Kialandi added the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uottaframe Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I'm sorry my fellow tenno but your theory is going to be shattered when the War Within comes. Still, we appreciate your effort. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinxeverything Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Also thanks for ruining the next quest, if what you said is true T_T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidProdigy Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 48 minutes ago, Nazrethim said: Well, I kick Stalker's arse on a regular basis even with weak equipment simply because I use the high mobility stunts I learned by playing Conclave, so if Teshin is the Stalker he's doing something wrong. Also, a little thing I want to add to this: What if the Tenno aren't children, but: A) The actual crew of the Zariman, reversed to child-like state by the same process that gave them their powers B) The whole crew was devoured/destroyed by the Void, but some enegy materialized in a shape similar to that of the anihilated crew. So the Tenno are actually physical manifestation of Void energy in the guise of humans, that would explain why they don't age. watch Stallord's lore videos on youtube, in which he explains that in the zariman along side the adults, there were children, when they were warped into void, the adults died while the children were affected by the void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlendasNaro Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I did not think about this at all.... Wow... Nice work there getting all this together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidNomade Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) Still not convinced since there´s no real evidence. The characters, in their language, their behaviour and their reason are way to different. (even with Palpatine treatment) How Stalker and Hunhow know of each other you ask OP? Teshin: The ghost you saw is of a menace long thought dead. They study us, study our enemies. Let us sharpen our knowledge of them. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The only thing that would let me think that they´re connected is the Nikana thing. Edited July 30, 2016 by VoidNomade \o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmongerExtraordinare Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyra Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 47 minutes ago, SigmaLambdaOmega said: But Lee! The tenno were supposed to take a 1000year nap, and Teshin didn't. So how exactly has he not just crumbled to dust, unless he is the equivalent of an orokin T1000. I mean, we only ever see his nose-mouth area, his arms and legs definitely aren't normal ones, not sure what is going on under the rest of him and he has a giant hat (but given the fashion choices of people like alad v, it isn't that odd). that void trader dude has no scalp at all :D i mean no space for brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 15 minutes ago, Kialandi said: It's not the Queens residence. It's completely different. Only similarity are the red lights. I wouldn't say completely, I can see some similarities beyond the lighting. But yeah, they are different, I must have remembered it wrong. In any case, since War Within is supposed to involve the Queens, I still say that both room are involved with the Queens rather than stalker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Sokol Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 54 minutes ago, LegionCynex said: TL,DR Please.. tl;dr Teshin is stalker Spoiler Take some time and read the theory. It's worth it. Edited July 30, 2016 by --Sokol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyKurama Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Don't think Tenshin is the stalker, seeing as In the Second Dream Stalker didn't know about The Operator, and if Tenshin was the stalker he should knew it as he would be similar/the same as he has been awake long before the quests. But then again what connection does that have with the Grineer Twin Queens seeing as that room is Grineers (but with tenno design)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 one Question: how the hell does Teshin's head fit into the Stalker's helmet? he needs that Mushroom-headgear thing to survive I think, or is the Stalker actually a Warframe that Teshin Controls using his own Somatic Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyKurama Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 27 minutes ago, Kialandi said: It's not the Queens residence. It's completely different. Only similarity are the red lights. Hide contents You only see from the entres of the door who knows maybe where the queens sits is the water pool you see in the 2nd teasrer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 If you accept out-of-universe reasons why all of that is wrong, then there's this. Teshin oversees the Conclave mode, and if he's going to be ousted as a Stalker then obviously he's not going to be able to do that. Meaning that the vast majority of assets about that mode will have to be replaced. And for several obvious reasons it's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SuperRaySonic Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I am shocked at this point anything could happen. But think of this: Would DE really make Teshin a bad guy? If the did theu would have to add a new conclave master and I don't think DE would that its extra work. But I won't deny the possibility that he could be the Stalker becasue I think the community has asked for a while if they could join Stalker or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazrethim Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 31 minutes ago, v0nx4v13r said: watch Stallord's lore videos on youtube, in which he explains that in the zariman along side the adults, there were children, when they were warped into void, the adults died while the children were affected by the void. Ember's codex entry: 'And the crew was gone.' 'Not exactly.' Kaleen hesitated. 'We thought it was empty but we began to find...' Her face twitched at remembered pain, 'We began to find children hiding in the ship.' --- When Kaleen reached the door she twisted out of his grip and shot back, 'Why would you do that? Why did you put children on military ship?' 'We didn't. That would violate procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Prime Pedestal Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 40 minutes ago, VisionAndVoice said: It's a myth, his probability of appearing is not affected by your loadout. In fact, the opposite is true - he won't visit you if your frame is too weak, i.e. lower than lvl 10. This point and it's derivatives can be disregarded. In fact, everything that you said about Stalker's and guardian's abilities and gameplay can be disregarded, since you're giving too much meaning to what is a gameplay convention. Is this new because I've been attacked by the stalker on an unranked frame before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Just now, (XB1)AnnoyedHaddock said: Is this new because I've been attacked by the stalker on an unranked frame before? Relatively new, they introduced it after U18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 hour ago, DeFragMe said: he also promotes warframes killing each other. He does not promote killing each other, what we do in the Conclave is a sparring training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Prime Pedestal Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Just now, VisionAndVoice said: Relatively new, they introduced it after U18. Sands of Inaros 18.5 according to the Wiki so it was implemented after the second dream meaning lore wise it is logical the Stalker may prey on weaker frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFragMe Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Just now, VisionAndVoice said: He does not promote killing each other, what we do in the Conclave is a sparring training. between "sparring" , "hurting each other painfully" and "training to kill eachother" is not much difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Just now, (XB1)AnnoyedHaddock said: Sands of Inaros 18.5 according to the Wiki so it was implemented after the second dream meaning lore wise it is logical the Stalker may prey on weaker frames. I don't see how a gameplay convention has anything to do with the lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deshiel Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 2015-2016 are the years of cinematic betrayal it semms ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, DeFragMe said: between "sparring" , "hurting each other painfully" and "training to kill eachother" is not much difference... Wat? Dude, these are three different things you're listing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFragMe Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 minute ago, VisionAndVoice said: Wat? Dude, these are three different things you're listing there. well, everyone sees it different. in my eyes it is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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