(XBOX)Prime Pedestal Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Just now, VisionAndVoice said: I don't see how a gameplay convention has anything to do with the lore. OP wrote how the lore suggests that the Stalker preys on the weaker warframes, and you said that as the stalker doesn't attack a lower than lvl 10 frame this wasn't right. But those game changes were made after the lore was written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, (XB1)AnnoyedHaddock said: OP wrote how the lore suggests that the Stalker preys on the weaker warframes, and you said that as the stalker doesn't attack a lower than lvl 10 frame this wasn't right. I didn't say that it wasn't right because Stalker does not attack lower than 10 lvl, I said that it wasn't right because OP was trying to tie lore to a gameplay convention (that Stalker attacks only weakened players) that was not a thing to begin with. Edited July 30, 2016 by VisionAndVoice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibro156 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, ObviousLee said: Not sure if Praise or not.... It's an insult because M.Night is know for making some pretty bad stuff. Funny thing is he was good when he started then overtime just got worse. Even tho it should be opposite way Edited July 30, 2016 by Ibro156 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, DeFragMe said: well, everyone sees it different. in my eyes it is the same. That's called being wrong. Using the same logic you could say that Lotus is schooling us into mass murderers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFragMe Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Just now, VisionAndVoice said: That's called being wrong. Using the same logic you could say that Lotus is schooling us into mass murderers. well if you ask me, thats what she is doing. But iam not asked about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kialandi Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 40 minutes ago, VisionAndVoice said: I wouldn't say completely, I can see some similarities beyond the lighting. But yeah, they are different, I must have remembered it wrong. In any case, since War Within is supposed to involve the Queens, I still say that both room are involved with the Queens rather than stalker. 30 minutes ago, BabyKurama said: You only see from the entres of the door who knows maybe where the queens sits is the water pool you see in the 2nd teasrer Lol. Wanted to prove you wrong. Instead I found similarities in those videos. Shape of the door and the metal thingy Lights above Teshin's head + Lights above Queens But where did the Queen's "Throne" go? In the pool? Edited July 30, 2016 by Kialandi posted unfinished post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto-Drive Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) This... actually makes sense, holy crap. +1 Still I thought the edgy-colored rooms were a place for the Grineer Twin Queens and not, you know, Stalker's bedroom. Edited July 30, 2016 by Proto-Drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, DeFragMe said: well if you ask me, thats what she is doing. But iam not asked about this. You weren't asked about anything that was said in this topic yet here you are. Nothing is wrong with stating opinion so don't be apologetic about it. And if what I quote is your opinion then you're wrong again, because you're missing out some critical details. Like Lotus sending us only against military installations where we don't face non-combatants, her pointedly avoiding civilian casualties in general, or her investing into relays, that lore-wise don't just serve the Tenno but play important part in a nonGrineer/Corpus infrastructure. Genocide is not her goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kialandi Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, Kialandi said: -snip- I just realized that it really is the Throne room. Each teaser just shows opposite sides of the room. In the first teaser Queens are looking towards Teshin. Thus we can see the same lights. In the second trailer Nyx is looking towards Queens, who are behind a "curtain". There are those hoses and pipes on the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFragMe Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 1 minute ago, VisionAndVoice said: You weren't asked about anything that was said in this topic yet here you are. Nothing is wrong with stating opinion so don't be apologetic about it. And if what I quote is your opinion then you're wrong again, because you're missing out some critical details. Like Lotus sending us only against military installations where we don't face non-combatants, her pointedly avoiding civilian casualties in general, or her investing into relays, that lore-wise don't just serve the Tenno but play important part in a nonGrineer/Corpus infrastructure. Genocide is not her goal. but in the end she is doing it. generally you would normaly think first if it even is needed to kill some people when you are doing a simple Spy mission. But in the end you dont even care anymore and just slaughter anything on your way to the spyvault. So to say she is reaching her goal. The tenno is mindlessly killing everything when it is not even your job sometimes, like on a spy, deception or rescue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawbeard Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 except Stalker didn't even know he was Tenno (or something like Tenno) while Teshin seems to know a holy crap tonne about the Tenno the Tenno don't even know. Although he still makes Tenno fight each other under the pretense of a poorly constructed lie, so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reverb6 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 2 hours ago, DiosGX said: I'll re-read all this in the morning like I said I would, but, I wanted to add on the point I mentioned on messenger being: Stalker drops a Nikana stance, Blind Justice. Stalker, however, does not use a Nikana. Hide contents Teshin does THIS!!!!! This adds the great explanation given by Lee... it's final, Teshin is the Stalker! XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampirePirate Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I don't know. I still have alot of question marks in my head about this. I rather wait until War Within comes out and learn that way. However, if you are correct about everything, then I would say you have a clever mind, but also... You spoiled it!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 13 minutes ago, DeFragMe said: but in the end she is doing it. generally you would normaly think first if it even is needed to kill some people when you are doing a simple Spy mission. But in the end you dont even care anymore and just slaughter anything on your way to the spyvault. So to say she is reaching her goal. The tenno is mindlessly killing everything when it is not even your job sometimes, like on a spy, deception or rescue. You're projecting here. Personally I don't go out of my way to kill mobs unless it's required for a mission. And in general, we're not doing any of this because we feel like killing unprovoked. We kill enemies as a part of war that we did not start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFragMe Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Just now, VisionAndVoice said: You're projecting here. Personally I don't go out of my way to kill mobs unless it's required for a mission. And in general, we're not doing any of this because we feel like killing unprovoked. We kill enemies as a part of war that we did not start. well, everyone acts different on the killing part. It's also noticeable how you need to kill more to finish a mission the further you get into the star chart. and the war, well, partly we started it by killing the orokin off, even if that was long in the past. The Grineer themself propably wouldnt have reached that kind of might without our help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyra Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 what is Teshin is a spy and Nyx puts both of them in a risk going there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ATreidezz Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 What if teshin is not stalker? What if john prodman is actually the Lotus & Darvo was actually a shrink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostedMike Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) Actaully, the Stalker can attack you when you're armed with maxed out gear, it's just karma that people see him mostly when they're using low ranked gear. But it isn't relevant to your theory. It is possible that Teshin is the Stalker, you have some good point there. I think I have a slightly different theory now that you think about it. Is it possible that Teshin is not Stalker but his operator? Did anyone see Stalker and Teshin in the same place at the same time?? TESHIN IS STALKER!! :D I had this theory that Teshis is a sentient because his helmet covers the same parts of the head as Lotus.. Edited July 30, 2016 by CommanderSpawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisionAndVoice Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, (PS4)ATreidezz said: Darvo was actually a shrink He was a shrink trying to treat the rest of the cast, and Warframe is actually an asylum? It all makes sense now - we're all crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPHENIX Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 4 hours ago, ObviousLee said: Who all was "present" for the cracking of Hunhow's tomb? There was the Operator, there was the Lotus, and there was Teshin. Only ones who knew about it. Period. But Lee! By that logic Stalker could also be Tyl Regor, because it will make no sence and nobody will see it coming. But Lee! By that logic Stalker could also be the Lotus! She is just playing with us like a little girl would with her dolls, we are just puppets to that monster!!! ''She is trying to kill us man, It's a consipiracy man!!!'' Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFragMe Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, AlphaPHENIX said: But Lee! By that logic Stalker could also be Tyl Regor, because it will make no sence and nobody will see it coming. But Lee! By that logic Stalker could also be the Lotus! She is just playing with us like a little girl would with her dolls, we are just puppets to that monster!!! ''She is trying to kill us man, It's a consipiracy man!!!'' Reveal hidden contents well it simple to explain, mostly because he is ObviousLee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Jennison99 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I never thought about it this way. so i guess Theshins is really gonna be a bad guy in the War Within..... at least the war within title makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Grihaly Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 "Commissioner Gordon, activate the Morec0 signal!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 its a nice concept, but if you knew ..... the truth.... teshin ...is conclave master :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFragMe Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 18 minutes ago, (XB1)EternalDrk Mako said: its a nice concept, but if you knew ..... the truth.... teshin ...is conclave master :D "sudo"-conclave master... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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