_planforwar_ Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) Has anyone noticed desecrate has now become next to useless for Nekros. Also despoil doesn't actually work (although costs nothing) and shield of shadows functions very differently. I can't seem to find anything in release notes about it? Has anyone seen anything about this? Edited August 12, 2016 by _planforwar_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvaDreams Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Nope, mine works just fine only there isn't a carpet of red orbs everywhere in my wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Archibald Jax Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Going to miss the red carpet, but it'll be a fair trade to not have to play undead dj in a corner just to get the drops. Just a little bummed I'm going to have to wait until the update after the one currently in cert to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Cephalon_Snow Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, (XB1)Archibald Jax said: Going to miss the red carpet, but it'll be a fair trade to not have to play undead dj in a corner just to get the drops. Just a little bummed I'm going to have to wait until the update after the one currently in cert to get it. "Undead DJ". .I like that. Live tonight..DJ Nekros Spinning all your favorite Corpus and Grineer screams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvaDreams Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, (XB1)Archibald Jax said: Going to miss the red carpet, but it'll be a fair trade to not have to play undead dj in a corner just to get the drops. Just a little bummed I'm going to have to wait until the update after the one currently in cert to get it. Well it's still there... Only really spotty now (I run the Regen aura so I've never relied on the orbs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemisfortune Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Mine works too, just used it and got a ton of neurodes and plastids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I have had no such problems. Desecrate using 3 health for a cast with despoil, killing an enemy refills it back instantly because of his passive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Eluminary Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 1 hour ago, (XB1)Archibald Jax said: Going to miss the red carpet, but it'll be a fair trade to not have to play undead dj in a corner just to get the drops. Just a little bummed I'm going to have to wait until the update after the one currently in cert to get it. Console might not get it pc got it after the cut off update was sent to cert. Though it is fairly easy to put that in there i guess. Before i only used nekros for farming this will put farm on auto pilot while i can play missions normally ill use him more overall likly. Spamming desecrate was always boring this will be better overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeFragMe Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 15 minutes ago, (PS4)Eluminary said: Console might not get it pc got it after the cut off update was sent to cert. Though it is fairly easy to put that in there i guess. Before i only used nekros for farming this will put farm on auto pilot while i can play missions normally ill use him more overall likly. Spamming desecrate was always boring this will be better overall. well, havent found a good build so far, but now i dont spam desecrate... but shadows of the death... they already die moderatly fast on their own, but with the health drain... its quite fast... mabye its just because i havent found a good build jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketec Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 The problem with despoil drain is infested. Imagine ODD, 30-40 enemies dies in range in a short time. Suddenly you are losing ~100-150 hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 it's definitely going to be interesting. I have mostly mixed feelings now, since I heard about Shadows having health decay. I'm sure once I find a new build I'll be ok, but still... not that happy about health decay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnKable Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 11 minutes ago, Ketec said: The problem with despoil drain is infested. Imagine ODD, 30-40 enemies dies in range in a short time. Suddenly you are losing ~100-150 hp. 40x2,5 is 100. And its at a rate of 2.5 per second because thats the desecrate rate now, 1 corpse per second. also i see no reason to keep using despoil aug, its super sustainable with energy only, also energy is much easier to refill as now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 36 minutes ago, Ketec said: The problem with despoil drain is infested. Imagine ODD, 30-40 enemies dies in range in a short time. Suddenly you are losing ~100-150 hp. First. With max efficiency you have a 2.5 drain per corpse. Second if 30 - 40 enemies die around you you also get 5 health for each death because of his passive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Momaw Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 40 minutes ago, JohnKable said: also i see no reason to keep using despoil aug It still synergizes extreme well with Equilibrium. You really don't need power efficiency at all, with Despoil+Equilibrium. You spend health to make health orbs, and you get energy when you pick up the health orbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawd127 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 From my own experience, I feel like desecrate was buffed. Of course the Health drop rate has been dropped but the fact that it's a toggle ability now, I have to say that it's active all the time for me. Paired it with Equilibrium (Which I definitely need a non-damaged one...) and Health Conversion, Nekros is now a tough frame to down now. By using Despoil, I keep my energy for Shadows. Maybe yes, desecrete is nerfed a little because of the desecrate rate, but otherwise, I feel like Nekros has a gameplay more than spamming "Desecrete" every 2-3 seconds. The only complain I have is the Health decay on the Shadows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arithin Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 The necros changes seem to be a small but noticeable nerf to loot. A large and obvious nerf to health orb gen. A huge buff to base efficiency. A moderate buff to sustain and survivability, specially with syndicate mods. Absolutely massive buff to your damage done, since you spend nearly all your time shooting/meleeing instead of hand waving for no damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENGINEEEEER Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 The chance to reroll loot is down but it isn't too bad. I have had no problems with energy or health due to enemy density. Health orb generation is just fine. I've never had to hunt for health orbs and I need them to maintain health conversion. I too am grateful for the end of DJ Desecrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_planforwar_ Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 6 hours ago, Airwolfen said: I have had no such problems. Desecrate using 3 health for a cast with despoil, killing an enemy refills it back instantly because of his passive. Isn't it 50 health to cast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_planforwar_ Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Airwolfen said: First. With max efficiency you have a 2.5 drain per corpse. Second if 30 - 40 enemies die around you you also get 5 health for each death because of his passive. I didn't think efficiency affected despoil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, _planforwar_ said: Isn't it 50 health to cast? Nop. Desecrate is 10 energy at base for each body (10 health with despoil). So you end up with only 2.5 energy/health after efficiency mods. It is VERY easy to keep it going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_planforwar_ Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Crawd127 said: From my own experience, I feel like desecrate was buffed. Of course the Health drop rate has been dropped but the fact that it's a toggle ability now, I have to say that it's active all the time for me. Paired it with Equilibrium (Which I definitely need a non-damaged one...) and Health Conversion, Nekros is now a tough frame to down now. By using Despoil, I keep my energy for Shadows. Maybe yes, desecrete is nerfed a little because of the desecrate rate, but otherwise, I feel like Nekros has a gameplay more than spamming "Desecrete" every 2-3 seconds. The only complain I have is the Health decay on the Shadows... Agreed, with health conversion, shield of shadows, equilibrium, despoil Nekros is almost impossible to down. And even when all else fails casting fear makes everything run away. Desecrate was simply the icing on the cake (was). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilasis Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Who cares? Nekros is playable now. You can do other things other than spamming the 3 button. It's a huge buff, in my opinion. Plus with smeeta kavats, farming for rare resources has become unnecessary, so overall I think the changes are excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Akuma_Asura_ Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) And there goes my @(*()$ build de .. health orbs were a keystone . Nice for you to mess up another one of my frames keep it up . Now you just have nezha & Chroma to dismantle Edited August 12, 2016 by (PS4)Akuma_Asura_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CG.WFO.A4NC.EN.CM-Nub Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Read the recent patch notes for more information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TerranAxiom87 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, (PS4)I420t said: "Undead DJ". .I like that. Live tonight..DJ Nekros Spinning all your favorite Corpus and Grineer screams! I logged just to give you a 10/10 for that lol. Edited August 12, 2016 by (PS4)ENKkii87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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