(PSN)Armsdealer75 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Hi im postiong this thread for a general discussion related to Zephyr being as shes my favorite frame, I feel that she needs some tweaking to keep up with the current meta of warframe. I feel her first two abilitys should be changed (imo) perhaps the ability to fly? After all she is a bird and therefore should have that power in her arsenal much like Titania and wukongs abilitys, what do you guys think? Id love to see your opinions :) Also id like to get an update on zephyr's deluxe skin that was teased awhile back, cause since then i havent heard anything about it :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorde_Sukalo Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) Titania alredy has the ability to fly, if zephyr had it then titanias ult whould not be special, i only think her 2cnd power is not that great. Edited August 15, 2016 by Dorde_Sukalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSH_BNG Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Her dive-bomb is only usable while she's already in the air, so it's rarely used even when Zephyr is in the air. Her first ability performs the same thing as a bullet jump while she's on the ground and launches her forward while already airborne. I have no problem with the second half of it, but it could use a tweak, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catastrophy Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 The new mobility makes that 1st and 2nd ability look redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuestenjung Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 29 minutes ago, catastrophy said: The new mobility makes that 1st and 2nd ability look redundant. Her first was allways bad, but due to the small levels and skyboxes and why does movement 2.0 make her 2. redundant? You can already use it after just jumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelous_A Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I really don't understand why DE decided to give flying ult to titania instead of zephyr. I mean, she's a freaking bird FFS. What's about her 1 and 2? Darn she needs a rework desperately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Dorde_Sukalo said: Titania alredy has the ability to fly, if zephyr had it then titanias ult whould not be special, i only think her 2cnd power is not that great. Well, Zephyr is the one that should've had it in the first place. I don't care Titania would no longer be special (honestly, it still would be special, because it's an archwing, not a bird). Maybe Zephyr could have a flight model where it has to stay in motion when in flight mode or something. And, of course, it wouldn't be able to shoot weapons while in flight mode, maybe just knockdown enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koed Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Honestly Zephyr is just a bad frame when compared to other frames and on top of that I dont find her fun to play at all. Her whole kit needs a major overhaul imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xgomme Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 1 and 2 could merge, if you look down you launch the dive-bomb. And they could add another spell to her kit. But I kinda like the "not free flying" like if you had to flap your wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SineSole Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I hear the deluxe skin was scrapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 17 minutes ago, Rogue_Striker said: I hear the deluxe skin was scrapped. when did they state that ? ;/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SineSole Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 13 minutes ago, (XB1)EternalDrk Mako said: when did they state that ? ;/ On another thread about zephyr someone said that it had been scrapped. Not sure if it's true though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Just now, Rogue_Striker said: On another thread about zephyr someone said that it had been scrapped. Not sure if it's true though yes i was on it ,and it wasnt confirmed .... also the model shown in dev stream was an inprogress concept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helch0rn Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, (XB1)EternalDrk Mako said: yes i was on it ,and it wasnt confirmed .... also the model shown in dev stream was an inprogress concept They way I understood it was: That skin was never a real thing. One of the art guys made it as a joke and it will never be a real thing because of the huge wings that would clip with every object in the known universe. And to be honest: it's a good thing that skin will never be a thing because it is ugly as hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Just now, Helch0rn said: They way I understood it was: That skin was never a real thing. One of the art guys made it as a joke and it will never be a real thing because of the huge wings that would clip with every object in the known universe. And to be honest: it's a good thing that skin will never be a thing because it is ugly as hell in all honesty i liked it way more then novas .... *shivers* and sheldon made a comment of reducing the wing size in that dev stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)eximago Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 She's really not a bad frame at all, but she does need some work. Divebomb isn't awful either. It's a good knockdown, and since it's damage is lackluster, there's no reason to worry about height. Just small jump is fine and you get some CC. None of her abilities do great damage, as she's more of a CC frame anyway, so I'm not sure what people expect out of Divebomb. I do think Divebomb could possibly be put into Tailwind and a new ability added though. Which, while we're at it, Tailwind is fine too. It gives you much greater speed than a normal bullet jump and can be chained with bullet jumps and glides and every other movement to cover more ground more quickly. Turbulence is great, of course, but Tornado could use some love or maybe a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SicSlaver Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) I wish that Deluxe skin was a joke.... Just rework her 1 ability and combine it with her 2 ability's effect. Make it go in the direction I want it to instead of going straight up when I'm on the ground. Then give her a new ability. Give her 4 ability a rework too. Instead of summoning all the tornadoes at once, maybe one at a time for more control with less energy consumption? Edited August 19, 2016 by SicSlaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryowynd Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Skin is being worked on, shown on last devstream. It looks pretty good IMO. Hopefully now that she's in the dev's attention, she'll be getting her rework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I mostly use Zephyr and Oberon so I'm pretty happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SwagSmasha Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I hope they give zepher a better wind ability to replace dive bomb. Something invovling wings and feathers and flying. I want her to be a harpy lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)z7Lucky7z Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 What if glide would let you hover and the time hovering would be similar to a wall mount where it's not infinite but still long enough to be useful? A jump and glide without movement inputs would result in a hover and maybe let her only move in a forward direction where you are aiming(no strafing left to right while hovering/gliding for pvp reasons). It would keep Titania's flight movement unique while Zephyr's would be unique as well. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SicSlaver Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 On 19/08/2016 at 3:40 PM, Cryowynd said: Skin is being worked on, shown on last devstream. It looks pretty good IMO. Hopefully now that she's in the dev's attention, she'll be getting her rework. Oh, huh. I thought I paid attention to the devstream. I completely missed this. It actually doesn't look too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Armsdealer75 Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 Yea they finally showed off her deluxe skin and possibly a rework teasee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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