Chaosdreamer Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) Hello , as you guys know with the "relic system" is pretty unfair , what we did in the whole games farming keys ,changed to relics , at first I woulnd care , they are same as key right ? Well not anymore , since this mean : - Your relics is useless when a news prime access is out - You wasted time farming new relics since they won't be worth anything under 3-6 month (average time for a news PA) - You are auto vaulting "old prime access" - That a nice ways to say farm more or buy it Some of you going to "there is nothing to win" then change it to , Pay to play or DLC there is many word to describe this Why this is'nt fair : As explained Above previous system allowed you to use your keys in all kind of mission it's was'nt hard just Ext , cap , interception ,and others T1-2-3-4 , news release? use your keys you hardly earned already News system , your hard earned keys changed to relics , many names , number , once a news prime access is out , well your keys is useless as soon , and you gotta farm even more to have your news keys awsome ain't it? DE please fix that system make it auto upgrade to "current" drop table Edited August 23, 2016 by theclinton misleading title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)joshw1400 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 My beautiful keys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosdreamer Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, (PS4)joshw1400 said: My beautiful keys... *snip video* Farewell to my keys , it's was awsome ain't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonHD Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) I actually like the new relic system... it adds the grind back to the game, where relics took it out when it first came out. There was less grind with the introduction of relics, because of the conversion over from keys, and being able to influence RNG through void traces. So you had hundreds of relics, and were able to influence all of them to get whatever part you wanted. Edited August 23, 2016 by PoisonHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoninJed Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 DE said that this is how it will be with relics when they came out. I'm surprised it took this long for these kinds of threads to show up. I'm still willing to give it a shot before going all gloom and doom over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauli133 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Relic system is pay to win It's pretty clear you don't know what that term means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Chronos Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 minute ago, PoisonHD said: I actually like the new system... it adds the grind back to the game, where relics took it out. Exactly, Recently this game is becoming even more easier what already is. I'm happy with this system. Now there's more grind and now lazy people are crying, if you are lazy, buy Prime Access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitexh Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 My Keys gives me less Grind and more primes. Your keys give more players time play and more online players. The key to new prime is the same key for the old prime, but the new key (relic) is not the same as the old key. Where can we find the new key? when all we had is the old key? Today is the day we remember.. We can get 4 by 1 key, while now we had 4 by 4 key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky5hift Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hitexh said: We can get 4 by 1 key, while now we had 4 by 4 key. Yeah 4 pieces of trash and more time wasted. Also this thread is misleading as hell. The fact that you can even get premium gear without paying for it automatically makes the game non-P2W. Edited August 23, 2016 by Tricky5hift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfTitan Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Hitexh said: We can get 4 by 1 key, while now we had 4 by 4 key. Actually, in the old system, we could get more than 4 prime parts with 1 key (as long as players wanted to continue the endless missions). This allowed us to roll several times for the parts that we needed. Now it's 4 keys to get 1 prime part, that is, if you even find the squad mates who need the same part in the first place. I could not disagree more with this new system. Please bring Void 1.0 back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichouette Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Where is the "pay" exactly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Suoh Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 AND we must fill of new relics the market AGAIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamnotanoob Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) I farmed syndicate rep. 2 weeks ago..purchased relic packs today. By luck and good rng...i got the whole nekros set. Sold it fr 800p. All that under 50 min. PS > I havnt spent a single penny on the game... Edited August 23, 2016 by Iamnotanoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7-CommanderShepard Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 9 minutes ago, Chronus_ said: Exactly, Recently this game is becoming even more easier what already is. I'm happy with this system. Now there's more grind and now lazy people are crying, if you are lazy, buy Prime Access. are you a DE spy account saying BUY a 150$ package so casualy are you willing to buy it for us all since you say BUY prime access so casualy hmm.. and btw buying the prime access just removes the fun of the actual game you litterly have nothing left to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Chronos Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 minute ago, N7-CommanderShepard said: are you a DE spy account saying BUY a 150$ package so casualy are you willing to buy it for us all since you say BUY prime access so casualy hmm.. and btw buying the prime access just removes the fun of the actual game you litterly have nothing left to do So... Don't buy it and go farm it. It's simple, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)RedChili69 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 8 minutes ago, WolfTitan said: Actually, in the old system, we could get more than 4 prime parts with 1 key (as long as players wanted to continue the endless missions). This allowed us to roll several times for the parts that we needed. Now it's 4 keys to get 1 prime part, that is, if you even find the squad mates who need the same part in the first place. I could not disagree more with this new system. Please bring Void 1.0 back. How abut no? The new system is far and away better, no longer do you need to do 20 mins in a survival, just to end up with a forma BP. You have far more control over what parts you get, as opposed to being stuck with whatever hey gave you. You can increase/decrease the odds of getting in a certain part now. Also, you are no longer stuck having to replay the same tile set against the same enemies over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StalkerIsMyWaifu Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonHD Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 minute ago, (PS4)RedChili69 said: How abut no? The new system is far and away better, no longer do you need to do 20 mins in a survival, just to end up with a forma BP. You have far more control over what parts you get, as opposed to being stuck with whatever hey gave you. You can increase/decrease the odds of getting in a certain part now. Also, you are no longer stuck having to replay the same tile set against the same enemies over and over again. Thank you xP I was trying to explain it, but I never got it out right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky5hift Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 11 minutes ago, WolfTitan said: Actually, in the old system, we could get more than 4 prime parts with 1 key (as long as players wanted to continue the endless missions). This allowed us to roll several times for the parts that we needed. Now it's 4 keys to get 1 prime part, that is, if you even find the squad mates who need the same part in the first place. I could not disagree more with this new system. Please bring Void 1.0 back. Lol no, each rotation has different drops, each with varying rarity. Chances were you'd get absolute trash the first 3 rotations and then maybe something good on the 4th. Now there are no rotations, you take only what you or others bring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ar0ndight Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 You need to understand that because Warframe is F2P DE needs you to play the game. They can't really suvive if you play every two weeks to get the super easy to obtain new content. They need the grind, they don't necessarily want it, ou just have to accept that is the "price" to pay for an awesome free game. The relics system has its issues, but it's a step in the right direction I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7-CommanderShepard Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Just now, Chronus_ said: So... Don't buy it and go farm it. It's simple, no? well i want to but i am not in the mood to farm relics then farm glitter charges(whateverthenamewas) then ask my friends if they also have them hen do a mission for 1 single rewards remember when you could pop a key inv you whole family and play mindless yeah that got removed for something totaly unrewarding so ppl can burnout more imo DE did this all for prime access gains and no the current farm is not fun it takes waaay longer then poping a key and farm howlong you wanted with whoever you wanted to bring with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvyr Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karamethien Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Seriously, why do people keep using words that don't mean what they think it means. The adding of new relic is another annoying gate, but it is hardly pay to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfTitan Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Ar0ndight said: You need to understand that because Warframe is F2P DE needs you to play the game. They can't really suvive if you play every two weeks to get the super easy to obtain new content. They need the grind, they don't necessarily want it, ou just have to accept that is the "price" to pay for an awesome free game. The relics system has its issues, but it's a step in the right direction I think. The game is no fun anymore for the following reason: The old Void system had missions such as T3D and T4D which challenged players to be creative with what frames they can bring and how to approach the purpose of the mission. It brought players together so that they could use their frames' powers in unity. Now there is no reason to play these missions because they no longer reward prime parts, which are also necessary for Baro. Now, players can solo all Void Fissure missions by doing the same thing over and over: get 10 reactants and extract as soon as possible. The novel Warframe premise of fast pace (such as in Tower capture missions) and working together are thrown to the side by this repetitive, grindful relic system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiWarp Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Pay for instant access. Relic system is grind to ease-future-grinding-possibly-if-you-are-lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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