Zarozian Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) ESPECIALLY THE TELOS BOLTACE! That aoe slide attack man! THE RANGE ON THAT THING IS HUUUGE! O _O YOU WILL ALL KNEEL BEFORE THE POWER OF THE TELOS BOLTACE! FOR ITS POWER IS MAJESTIC AS IT IS GRAND! BEHOLD ITS GLORY! Edited September 16, 2016 by Zarozian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarozian Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 And the sounds! UGH THE SOUND IS BEAUTIFUL! This is definitely the weapon that Ordan Karris used to slay all the Orokins~ = 3= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarozian Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Although I thought I was going to have like a Specter Army with the Synoid Heliocor. Which was kind of disappointing~ ;< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornWithTeeth Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Mate....I think what you meant is that you, personally, are having fun with the Telos Boltace. I am currently massively, hugely disappointed in the Vaykor Sydon. It has probably one of the worst mechanics which I have ever seen on a weapon or Warframe in the game. Any time that you are ever, ever, ever considering using the Vaykor Sydon's block-to-charge-Radial-Blind trick, just charge in and perform a slide attack. Just....just run in and hit everyone. Standing there blocking is actively a terrible idea, and you will always be better off just fighting the bloody enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac10smg--Toa_of_Green Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Just now, BornWithTeeth said: Mate....I think what you meant is that you, personally, are having fun with the Telos Boltace. I am currently massively, hugely disappointed in the Vaykor Sydon. It has probably one of the worst mechanics which I have ever seen on a weapon or Warframe in the game. Any time that you are ever, ever, ever considering using the Vaykor Sydon's block-to-charge-Radial-Blind trick, just charge in and perform a slide attack. Just....just run in and hit everyone. Standing there blocking is actively a terrible idea, and you will always be better off just fighting the bloody enemy. So? Don't use it then. I find it cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EothasianBoar Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Just now, mac10smg-ToaOfGreen said: So? Don't use it then. I find it cool. I don't have it. How long does it take to fully charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornWithTeeth Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AhLiu338 said: I don't have it. How long does it take to fully charge? 15 attacks. You have to stand out in the open and block 15 attacks with it before you can use the blind. Oh, and if you attack, jump or maneuver, you lose the charge. Thematically cool.....just, a completely, utterly terrible execution of a cool idea. Edited September 15, 2016 by BornWithTeeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac10smg--Toa_of_Green Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, AhLiu338 said: I don't have it. How long does it take to fully charge? 15 blocked hits. It takes a little bit to charge up, so I would understand why people won't like it. Edited September 15, 2016 by mac10smg-ToaOfGreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzoneSlayer Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Im pretty sure the vaykor sydon's blind doesnt have finishers, but i could be mistaken Edited September 15, 2016 by OzoneSlayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEP8FlyBoy Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 > . > Still don't know how effective the Rakta Dark Dagger's visibility thingy is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shreiko Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 1 minute ago, BornWithTeeth said: 15 attacks. You have to stand out in the open and block 15 attacks with it before you can use the blind. Sounds like a hefty piece of S#&$, and apparently syndicate melee weapons have no syndicate procs. These weapons are a huge disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornWithTeeth Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Just now, OzoneSlayer said: Im pretty sure the vaykor sydon's blind doesnt have finishers, but if it gives the stealth multiplier then gas will be op on it, since it's a status weapon If the Vaykor Sydon's blind does not open for finishers, then....honestly, a weapon which I've been looking forward to is just trash. Just, just trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzoneSlayer Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Only ones worth using are magistar boltace and sydon Edited September 15, 2016 by OzoneSlayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Jam Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, mac10smg-ToaOfGreen said: 15 blocked hits. It takes a little bit to charge up, so I would understand why people won't like it. Because performing ANY animation (sprinting, jumping AND LETS NOT FORGET - MELEEING) actually resets the blind charge to 0. Edited September 15, 2016 by Cat_Jam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarozian Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Man my only complaint about the Telos Boltace is that it's good exercise for my hand. = 3= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarozian Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 19 minutes ago, BornWithTeeth said: Mate....I think what you meant is that you, personally, are having fun with the Telos Boltace. I am currently massively, hugely disappointed in the Vaykor Sydon. It has probably one of the worst mechanics which I have ever seen on a weapon or Warframe in the game. Any time that you are ever, ever, ever considering using the Vaykor Sydon's block-to-charge-Radial-Blind trick, just charge in and perform a slide attack. Just....just run in and hit everyone. Standing there blocking is actively a terrible idea, and you will always be better off just fighting the bloody enemy. BRUH! THE VAYKOR SYDON IS ENDGAME! ALL THOSE ASSASSINATES YOU COULD DO! >;O YOU CAN ONE SHOT LEVEL 9999s WITH THAT! >;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornWithTeeth Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Right, can confirm, the Blind from the Sydon does open enemies to Finishers.....for approx 2.5 seconds. DE, guys.....I love ya, but I really think that you dropped the ball on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsik-kun Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I have a personal bone to pick with DE and Vaykor Sydon. I've never seen anyone except for me using Sydon like ever. And I was always using it on Excal. And of course DE couldn't help themselves, but to add completely redundant effect for Excal to Vaykor Sydon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzoneSlayer Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Epsik-kun said: I have a personal bone to pick with DE and Vaykor Sydon. I've never seen anyone except for me using Sydon like ever. And I was always using it on Excal. And of course DE couldn't help themselves, but to add completely redundant effect for Excal to Vaykor Sydon. All the effects are worse versions of abilities or ability features. just like base focus powers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnthesteak87 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Zarozian said: ESPECIALLY THE TELOS BOLTACE! That aoe slide attack man! THE RANGE ON THAT THING IS HUUUGE! O _O Ohhh so much fun! EEEEEEEEEE E E E EEEEEE E EEE EE EEEEEEEEEEEE The game changed into better with so few changes! EEEEEEEEEE E E E EEEEEE E EEE EE EEEEEEEEEEEE Edited September 16, 2016 by Burnthesteak87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarozian Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, OzoneSlayer said: All the effects are worse versions of abilities or ability features. just like base focus powers Ay ay! Don't insult the Telos Boltace! o -o Its power is legit as it is grand! o -o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoninJed Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Well I call all of this good feedback hehe. I mean it all sounds bad but I'm sure DE is listening and will make some changes. Should be one of the main questions for the dev stream tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epsik-kun Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 To be honest even without "why do I need a second Radial Blind on Excal?" thing, Vaykor Sydon's effect is pretty awful. You lose charges if you attack, jump, roll or block a shockwave. Getting 15 charges takes a significant amount of time, even against multiple enemies. If you're up against enemies you might want the help of Radial Blind, you're already not in position to just stay there and take over 15 attacks - it hurts a lot. And even then, after you've dropped your charges several times in a row, got to almost no health, but actually got the Blind to proc - all you get is around 5 seconds of blind, which then will be wasted on one/two finishers you'll be forced into. Stats are very good. Effect is essentially detrimental for giving you an option to even try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSpite Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 hour ago, BornWithTeeth said: Mate....I think what you meant is that you, personally, are having fun with the Telos Boltace. I am currently massively, hugely disappointed in the Vaykor Sydon. It has probably one of the worst mechanics which I have ever seen on a weapon or Warframe in the game. Any time that you are ever, ever, ever considering using the Vaykor Sydon's block-to-charge-Radial-Blind trick, just charge in and perform a slide attack. Just....just run in and hit everyone. Standing there blocking is actively a terrible idea, and you will always be better off just fighting the bloody enemy. Then petition to make enemy scaling and combat mechanics more meaningful. Blocking should be a thing, flanking and rear attacks should be a thing. Pressing one button and having 10 enemies drop dead should NOT be a thing, otherwise all other combat options are meaningless and we get people coming up with your exact argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 47 minutes ago, BornWithTeeth said: Right, can confirm, the Blind from the Sydon does open enemies to Finishers.....for approx 2.5 seconds. DE, guys.....I love ya, but I really think that you dropped the ball on this. If what you say is fully accurate it could use quite a buff. I know these effects aren't supposed to be too gamebreaking, but they need to be within the realm of useable. Fifteen blocks for a very short lived blind, on a polearm weapon at that (weakest finishers in the game btw), is a terrible idea. If it were 3-5 and the blind were a bit longer it could be useful. I wouldn't say the mechanic itself is horrible, but they clearly way overbalanced in an effort to keep it from being op, and instead made it basically useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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