CapAllan Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Sigh, gonna have to rework a lot of builds. ;-; But. hey! I can keep Vacuum and the new Ammo Case thingey for my Carrier! Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceSheepie Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Thank you so much. You've restored my faith almost instantly with your response to this. Thank you, thank you, thank you. <3 <3 <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipputer Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 1 minute ago, EmptyDevil said: Retrieve needs vast improvements... Oh no doubt, but it would make more sense for the animals to have that instead of Vacuum. When it used to work mostly properly, I'd let my Chesa run out and grab life support at ranges much larger than 12m. It was extremely useful, just slower than vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JT-_-R3W1ND Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Nice, ty. But can you give passive 6m for a Frames? This is will be awesome, and kavats&doggy will not feel bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cx-dave Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramello Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 THANK YOU! It was all we asked for, did it hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocorro Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 11 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said: - snip - Any ideas for Kavats and Kubrows then? Or they're off the table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Chipputer said: Oh no doubt, but it would make more sense for the animals to have that instead of Vacuum. When it used to work mostly properly, I'd let my Chesa run out and grab life support at ranges much larger than 12m. It was extremely useful, just slower than vacuum. Would be kinda cool to have a vacuuming kubrow that has retrieve, that would basically be like a sweeper of the map, might actually make the Chesa fill that retriever role. Dunno, too powerful? For 2 mod cost? Meh whatever so much in flux right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazilianJoe Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I'd rather have vaccuum as: Every Warframe has a Vacuum of 0.2 meters per Mastery Level. 20 MR = 4 meters. Every Pet has a Vacuum of 0.2 meters per Mastery Level. 20 MR = 4 meters. Sentinel has a Vacuum extension for the Warframe of 0.4 meters per Mastery Level. 20 MR = +8 meters for the Warframe's Vacuum. at MR20 player reaches breakeven with current system. Even without a sentinel MR plays a role to scale up gatherability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrgolin Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Great changes guys! I think this will please a lot of people :D Also, it would be a nice idea to increase the survivability of Sentinels since we can't revive them as our animal companions :( (it would be awesome if we could) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 1 minute ago, -TP-BrazilianJoe said: I'd rather have vaccuum as: Every Warframe has a Vacuum of 0.2 meters per Mastery Level. 20 MR = 4 meters. Every Pet has a Vacuum of 0.2 meters per Mastery Level. 20 MR = 4 meters. Sentinel has a Vacuum extension for the Warframe of 0.4 meters per Mastery Level. 20 MR = +8 meters for the Warframe's Vacuum. at MR20 player reaches breakeven with current system. Even without a sentinel MR plays a role to scale up gatherability. Wow that's actually a very interesting idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MokutoBunshi Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Now, please work on retrieve one day... my Chesa hasn't seen the light of day since its inception... ]\'[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiPizza Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 WELP. I guess I'm reinstalling Warframe tonight then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuemego Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 13 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said: Dearest Tenno, It’s been 3 years of Carrier dominating the Vacuum business, and only recently we've even started a dialog on a topic you've brought up frequently. Experiments (such as The Vacuum Within) typically have 2 sides- you either fail or you succeed. Our previous idea to have universal Vacuum be a 3 Mod makeup was proposed on Devstream #80, to which we then scrapped after acknowledging the copious amounts of “please don’t do that” feedback. From that, our new idea was to have Vacuum built into every Sentinel with a reduced range. Upon reading the constructive feedback from our Community about The Vacuum Within, it was clear we needed to make some tweaks- and here we have experimental Mutation X! Vacuum is now an equippable Mod (Precept) for all Sentinels. We have also increased the range from 6m to 12m at max rank. All current Sentinel owners will receive this Mod instantly, as well as retroactively with every Sentinel crafted or purchased- much like other default Precepts. With that being said, we appreciate those that kept the feedback valuable and refrained from death threats. We changed something precious to you, and we will continue to change where needed as we listen to the Community. PC players can expect this today- stay tuned!! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysus41 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I wonder how many people will just take off Ammo Case and replace it with the "new" Vacuum mod on Carrier P... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Skaleek said: Wow that's actually a very interesting idea! I think that's a terrible idea meant to only benefit those who are at MR20 or above. That would still make it a nerf. What DE is doing now is fine. Let's leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Megan Posted October 6, 2016 Author Share Posted October 6, 2016 6 minutes ago, Skaleek said: Well its clear, enough community vitiriol enacts change. Fix endo conversion on the starmap? Please? Also is the 6m vacuum still innate? I was enjoying the extra modslot. Vitriol does not enact change. The constructive feedback was what pulled us to make this change. The Vacuum Within was an experiment (as mentioned above) and it doesn't always result in a favorable manner. Together we positively move forward and continue to make Warframe bigger and better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasarian Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I... I... do not know what to say... Thank you? Good job? Hmmmm.... I guess this will do: Thank you VERY much for making Vacuum a universal precept while not nerfing* the range. Thank you very very much. Spoiler *(I think people would've been fine with 9-10 meters, I know I would've been) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsahiOka Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Now give warframes 5-6 meters without the need of equipping a sentinel and i'll be happy c: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)A_SimpleName Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Was the option of keeping a 6m innate vacuum and adding an optional mod for another +6m ever on the discussion table? A genuine question; I'm indifference to the changes. *Disclaimer* I didn't care about the range of vacuum before or after the changes (that's 12m carrier only --> 6m all sentinels). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeyciKon Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Just now, [DE]Megan said: Vitriol does not enact change. The constructive feedback was what pulled us to make this change. The Vacuum Within was an experiment (as mentioned above) and it doesn't always result in a favorable manner. Together we positively move forward and continue to make Warframe bigger and better! now just make sentinels immortal and remove defense mods to make space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MokutoBunshi Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 1 minute ago, JeyciKon said: now just make sentinels immortal and remove defense mods to make space. ...okay that may just be your opinion dude... ]\'[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toquette Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 lmao this makes Carrier sit on his throne once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebnennar Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Quick every one complain about greedy pull so it can get un nerfed so I don't have to move at all!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey619 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I like it. It gives people the option to take it off if they don't want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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