Kinetos Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Shadow Stalker is just not satisfying to defeat. I can't remember most of the times I killed him but the fights with the Stalker before the Second Dream I nearly remember each victory because of the challenge that version posed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelkor Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KinetosImpetus said: Shadow Stalker is just not satisfying to defeat. I can't remember most of the times I killed him but the fights with the Stalker before the Second Dream I nearly remember each victory because of the challenge that version posed. Eh... Old Stalker: Lots of different terrible strategies that get you killed, or go melee mode and hold down block and channeling, stagger him once and melee him to death. Or go melee only + life strike and spam melee on him as he starts standing up. New Stalker: Bullet jump around his butt shooting him. They are about the same, in the end. Edited October 20, 2016 by Gelkor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonHD Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Old stalker I killed in a few seconds most of the time (after his invulnerability ofc). This stalker takes me slightly longer at least :/ Edited October 20, 2016 by PoisonHD Just gonna say... rose colored glasses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelkor Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Just now, PoisonHD said: Old stalker I killed in a few second most of the time. This stalker takes me slightly longer at least :/ Yeah, I usually beat the tar out of him with Scindo Prime in 3 seconds as he stood up every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekroArts Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 The only time stalker (both versions) were ever challenging was my first few encounters with him. After that he got boring as I got stronger mods and weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickshotMcGee Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 1 minute ago, KinetosImpetus said: the Stalker before the Second Dream I nearly remember each victory because of the challenge that version posed. Strictly speaking, that "challenge" only existed because back then, you were a much weaker and less experienced player. Realistically, he could be 1-shot more easily than the current one can. The difference being the current one avoids it with invulnerability phases that get really annoying. Old Stalker isn't any better than Stalker now. Only easier to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonHD Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gelkor said: Yeah, I usually beat the tar out of him with Scindo Prime in 3 seconds as he stood up every time. I have fond memories of doing that as well, when I first got my Scindo P... lol Edited October 20, 2016 by PoisonHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelkor Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Just now, PoisonHD said: I have fond memories of doing that when I first got my Scindo P lol Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarticulate Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) The old Stalker involved me finding him where he spawned, waiting for him to stand up, then opening fire with my Soma Prime, resulting in him dying within a few bullets of leaving his invincibility. The new Stalker involves me either one-shotting him with Artemis Bow or jumping around in circles with my Sonicor aiming in his general direction. Edited October 20, 2016 by Inarticulate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl_Facehugger Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Old stalker was terrible. It was basically a binary thing - either you kill him instantly, or you get oneshot by his bow, which had an aimbot. New stalker you can at least avoid his attacks most of the time and it's a lot harder to be oneshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelkor Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Cpl_Facehugger said: Old stalker was terrible. It was basically a binary thing - either you kill him instantly, or you get oneshot by his bow, which had an aimbot. That's what I mean, if you didn't one shot him, you had to go Melee only and get into melee range while holding down both triggers, this would always force his AI to go into melee only mode as well, meaning you channel block his Hate and stagger him. And if he didn't switch to melee immediately you'd block his Dread shot with a 100% channel block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askell91 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Wait... what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierceRadiance Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I can't help noticing that most of us here have been around a while ("old" Stalker, "new" Stalker). Maybe we should also consider what new players think about trying to kill current Stalker/Shadow Stalker. With the equipment at our disposal, he may not present the same challenge he once did. But to new players, he might still be death on two legs. Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarisVentara Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Both new stalker and old are equal. only real difference is one is pre-war and the other is post, they both get beaten over the head with any of my crit weapons and go down the moment they're vulnerable as they come into the mission :/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shaun-T-Wilson Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) He never left, Shadow stalker only targets players who done second dreams quest. Stalker is still spawnable in game if the player or a player in team haven't done second dream. Edited October 20, 2016 by (PS4)Shaun-T-Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latiac Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Stalker was most of the time killed before he stood up. While Shadow Stalker is not perfect and certainly needs some changes (Mostly due to his annoying immune to everything thing that happens) it's certainly better, you have to keep mobile, the original stalker just kinda died easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hixlysss Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 36 minutes ago, NekroArts said: The only time stalker (both versions) were ever challenging was my first few encounters with him. After that he got boring as I got stronger mods and weapons. This. Stalker is...well...a stalker. An assassin whom comes after YOU specifically. So his kit, the weapons he uses, should be tailored to fight YOU. As it stands he is a cookie cutter, using one...mediocre set of skills and weapons to fight all tenno, when he should have his stuff set up to fight what ever your frame/weapons are in the mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukinu_u Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 The 2 stalkers are differents. -Old stalker was really mobile with high damage but low health. This make him really hard to kill when beggening but you was able to OS it before spawn. -New stalker is just a bullet sponge with high melee a damage and disco ball that OS you. Making the battle less intense and stressful. So, I prefer how old stalker worked but can OS him was a bad thing... If we have a 3rd stalker bringed with a new quest (Umbra ?) I hope it will be a mix of these 2, with High mobility high damage ranged wepon like the Dread, but also good health with damage adaptation like sentients and shadow stalker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightCole Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Stalker is about the same...he 1 shots you when he hits, or if you run around like a headless banshee enough, you kill him with a wall of bullets. He got himself stuck on a stairwell yesterday, when he tried to attack my Frost in the middle of a survival...my uncle and him just fed him a healthy stream of Soma Prime and he went away... I dont want a more power creeped Stalker though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolunde Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I prefer "new stalker"/Shadow Stalker over old Stalker. I've had some fun battles with him. That said maybe it'd be fun if it could be either one of them post-SD and you didn't know which one was showing up until he was actually there. Sure it'd be a small change but it'd be something. Maybe after tWW we'll see Stalker in his "Final Form" haha I mean after all, we did break his War so it seems pretty janky to me that he still carries that thing around. =p Maybe Final Stalker could dual wield his Hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atalix Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Shadow Stalker is a challenge to face, I still encounter old Stalker by new Tennos whom have not complete Second Dream quest. But it's pretty rare now to encounter old Stalker sense these quests are really fast to burn through. So far these days Stalker is literally cheap...I mean cheap. xD His goodies don't drop at all for so many times, finally I got the War Bp now to farm an extra Broken War. Sadly I wish Broken War can be trade so peeps can buy that extra to whom have manage to get an extra while already has War from bundle and Broken War from Quest. Not to mention how he spawns on Tenno's most weakest time like leveling a weapon. Oo He's still fun to encounter sometimes, just hope you're prepare to tell him who's boss. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chushingura Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Stalker need more HP life thats all. Dmg is good enough. However he need to act more like climbing walls bullet jump etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xekrin Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I would like at least the option somehow for old stalker just so i can get my scans in. It switched over too quickly and I wasn't prepared for the change at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Sorry, a decent Magentize build negates any threat either Stalker poses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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