Teshin_Dax Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 minute ago, BCAW said: @[DE]Rebecca Please, say something, anything. I think people deserved to know, and not from some whistleblower. We need an explanation. Any explanation. She did .. look on latest staff replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM-Bunny Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BCAW said: @[DE]Rebecca Please, say something, anything. I think people deserved to know, and not from some whistleblower. We need an explanation. Any explanation. She already posted everything she knew here. Beyond that, she's probably as mystified as we are, and I doubt it's a trivial matter to just call up the CEO of Changyou and ask WTF. It will take time to resolve this issue, and - historically speaking - there's been virtually no communication to us related to any matters of Warframe China, so I doubt we will be informed of how it unfolds. Edited October 28, 2016 by AM-Bunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAW Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Wynn said: Wait are the mods they offering only with real world money? Thank you for the quick reply Rebecca. I should mention that there's a bit of an upset over on r/warframe regarding this as well. If it's not too much to ask, I'd like for you to give out the same reassurances there. Thank you again for the reply, have a great day Space Mom. Sincerely BCAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, AM-Bunny said: Pretty sure they sold the company to Leyou, which - besides also being based in China - has no affiliation with Changyou, the publisher in charge of Warframe China. I thought Leyou changed their named to Changyou? Blarg, If I was on my PC I'd go dog for the contract DESteve posted when this all went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM-Bunny Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Noamuth said: I thought Leyou changed their named to Changyou? Blarg, If I was on my PC I'd go dog for the contract DESteve posted when this all went down. For your convenience, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DxAdder Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Just now, Noamuth said: I thought Leyou changed their named to Changyou? Blarg, If I was on my PC I'd go dog for the contract DESteve posted when this all went down. Changyou is the company that Warframe is Licensed to in China. Nothing is going to come of this, if Warframe is a flop in China Leyou will selit to someone else AND that is something to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_R_A_B_U_S-v12 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) And 100% also they will take my Skana prime for the future :( Edited October 28, 2016 by B_R_A_B_U_S-v12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, AM-Bunny said: For your convenience, Thanks! Edited October 28, 2016 by Noamuth I got my companies mixed, sorry for the confusion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirfol Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 mmmmh i wonder the next move DE can make to let the dog not stray too far away, they need to make a strong move now to leash them. Chinaframe broke a exclusivity contract so i think DE can do it too and don't give them anymore updates, but even then i don't think it's right for the china players...it's a S#&$ty situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierceRadiance Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, WaRsHooTer666 said: The real Problem is this: If this is true and they are just selling founder gear ... then DE should just sell their founder gear on our side.. If user just say "its not global, dont care" .. then we can say "it is not China here, so just dont care changyou" LOL You sound like that episode of M*A*S*H Frank Burns: "Colonel, the Chinese are advancing!!" Col. Potter: "I understand. So naturally you shot BJ." You can't simply use Chinaframe's unethical and possibly illegal action as a justification to break the rules (and possible commit a legally-actionable offense) here. Doesn't work like that. Also, what's legal or illegal in one legal system (US, Canada, whatever) doesn't necessarily mean anything in another legal system (China). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 25 minutes ago, WaRsHooTer666 said: The real Problem is this: If this is true and they are just selling founder gear ... then DE should just sell their founder gear on our side.. If user just say "its not global, dont care" .. then we can say "it is not China here, so just dont care changyou" Someone's looting! That must mean its okay lets all do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShireDB Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 hour ago, [DE]Rebecca said: but for those concerned about this rest assured we did not approve this. I'm pretty concerned, and I would hope that some action will be taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 28 minutes ago, WaRsHooTer666 said: The real Problem is this: If this is true and they are just selling founder gear ... then DE should just sell their founder gear on our side.. If user just say "its not global, dont care" .. then we can say "it is not China here, so just dont care changyou" This isn't a bar fight where one person gets punched and the entire place turns into a free-for-all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanchak Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 hour ago, [DE]Rebecca said: Regarding this OP *specifically*: This offer (if true, which looks like it is) does violate our requests launching content. There are certain freedoms for the 'games as service' execution our international partners have, but we were able to get some explicit forbidden releases established which included Founder's gear. I can't speak too much on this simply because my involvement is minimum, but for those concerned about this rest assured we did not approve this. Sadly, this is just the start and how they conduct business. Respect seems to be a one way street. I'd say run, but it's likely too late for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)A_SimpleName Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 The most likely result will be ChinaFrame will pay some monetary amount as punitive damage for breaking a contract. The Lato Prime offering will cease (probably after the promotion) and those that already pay for it will still get to keep it. Whatever the result may be, it's going to be a lengthy process. Legality ~ evolution; it takes millions of years and the end results can be nothing like originally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierceRadiance Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 An unrelated side issue: what is that armor they're showing on the same Chinaframe page as the Lato Prime? I've seen it in-game, but it didn't look like anything I've seen in the market. Is it Tennogen (here)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirfol Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 minute ago, (PS4)A_SimpleName said: The most likely result will be ChinaFrame will pay some monetary amount as punitive damage for breaking a contract. The Lato Prime offering will cease (probably after the promotion) and those that already pay for it will still get to keep it. Whatever the result may be, it's going to be a lengthy process. Legality ~ evolution; it takes millions of years and the end results can be nothing like originally. then i hope the fine will be calculated with all the thread,post,comments on reddit regarding founder items. Salty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teshin_Dax Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 25 minutes ago, FierceRadiance said: You can't simply use Chinaframe's unethical and possibly illegal action as a justification to break the rules (and possible commit a legally-actionable offense) here. Doesn't work like that. Also, what's legal or illegal in one legal system (US, Canada, whatever) doesn't necessarily mean anything in another legal system (China). I dont disagree.. Thats right. What i said is just justice... not what i expect to happen - as always in the real world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierceRadiance Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Just now, WaRsHooTer666 said: I dont disagree.. Thats right. What i said is just justice... not what i expect to happen - as always in the real world Then you and I disagree on the definition of "justice". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirfol Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, FierceRadiance said: Then you and I disagree on the definition of "justice". for me justice will be DE creating content that will be inevitably cutted by the Great China Censor ( :P ), a story with ribellions,capitalism and individuality...corpus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FierceRadiance Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Or perhaps simply creating artificial delays in supplying them with DE Global's new content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---UMBRA--- Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Then. Give us Umbra Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7-CommanderShepard Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 i hope they buff the lato prime :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, FierceRadiance said: An unrelated side issue: what is that armor they're showing on the same Chinaframe page as the Lato Prime? I've seen it in-game, but it didn't look like anything I've seen in the market. Is it Tennogen (here)? Trinity Deluxe Skin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky5hift Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 2 hours ago, [DE]Rebecca said: Regarding this OP *specifically*: This offer (if true, which looks like it is) does violate our requests launching content. There are certain freedoms for the 'games as service' execution our international partners have, but we were able to get some explicit forbidden releases established which included Founder's gear. I can't speak too much on this simply because my involvement is minimum, but for those concerned about this rest assured we did not approve this. DE about to lay down the law on Chinaframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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