ChiefStevy Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 The Warframe wiki, forums, and Reddit always seem to refer to the head of the Grineer faction as the Twin Queens, yet during the War Within, one of them was clearly much older of the pair, the other of which was acting child-like. Am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemisfortune Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 minute ago, ChiefStevy said: The Warframe wiki, forums, and Reddit always seem to refer to the head of the Grineer faction as the Twin Queens, yet during the War Within, one of them was clearly much older of the pair, the other of which was acting child-like. Am I missing something here? Yes, something that was said many times through the quest. The Orokin can transfer their "souls" to different bodies. The Queens were born twins, but after the downfall of the Orokin they started using Grineer bodies (which are prone to degradation (reminds me of crisis core)). They chose different bodies, and as the queen's (the one you killed) body began to fail, she decided she wanted yours, because yours is semi immortal and super powerful. The smaller one escaped, and her body is still good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitchrea Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 minute ago, JSharpie said: Yes, something that was said many times through the quest. The Orokin can transfer their "souls" to different bodies. The Queens were born twins, but after the downfall of the Orokin they started using Grineer bodies (which are prone to degradation (reminds me of crisis core)). They chose different bodies, and as the queen's (the one you killed) body began to fail, she decided she wanted yours, because yours is semi immortal and super powerful. The smaller one escaped, and her body is still good. ^This^ Were you even paying attention? This was one of the main points of the quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-DarkSyndrome Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Wait then that means.......OH SNAP WE SHOULDN'T HAVE DRANK THE BLOOD.!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, -CM-DarkSyndrome said: Wait then that means.......OH SNAP WE SHOULDN'T HAVE DRANK THE BLOOD.!!!!! you're her's now... >:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemisfortune Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, -CM-DarkSyndrome said: Wait then that means.......OH SNAP WE SHOULDN'T HAVE DRANK THE BLOOD.!!!!! Yeah, she's a part of you now, it show it at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-DarkSyndrome Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, JSharpie said: Yeah, she's a part of you now, it show it at the end. yeah I kind of figured that when my operators eyes went all white and the voice was like What took you so long child. At that moment. I knew I f*cked up. :( Edited November 14, 2016 by -CM-DarkSyndrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemisfortune Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, -CM-DarkSyndrome said: yeah I kind of figured that when my operators eyes went all white and the voice was like What took you so long child. It's possible it's someone else, someone buried in your psyche, but I think the queen being inside your head has the most evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, -CM-DarkSyndrome said: Wait then that means.......OH SNAP WE SHOULDN'T HAVE DRANK THE BLOOD.!!!!! 2 minutes ago, W.AxlRose said: you're her's now... >:) What if drinking the blood... Spoiler Corrupts the Tenno with darkness... Spoiler Then corrupts the Warframe by extension... Spoiler ...Leading to those that drank it having a much easier time getting Excalibur Umbra in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burritochu Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I was pretty surprised myself when I got my first glimpse of them. I was expecting the Twin Queens to be a bit more Orokin in their looks. The Orokin were the most advanced civilization in the solar system and incredibly so. I thought they would be able to bypass aging and other biological functions to keep themselves eternally perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, EmptyDevil said: What if drinking the blood... Hide contents Corrupts the Tenno with darkness... Hide contents Then corrupts the Warframe by extension... Hide contents ...Leading to those that drank it having a much easier time getting Excalibur Umbra in the future. I mean wouldn't you and the Orokin (Queen) be running the frame then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I'm going to guess that the smaller queen is already in a degrading Tenno body, judging by her size. It seems we have failed to protect one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vali Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Burritochu said: I was pretty surprised myself when I got my first glimpse of them. I was expecting the Twin Queens to be a bit more Orokin in their looks. The Orokin were the most advanced civilization in the solar system and incredibly so. I thought they would be able to bypass aging and other biological functions to keep themselves eternally perfect. They take over other bodies through their Kuva, it sorta makes sense with: Ordin Karris' backstory, it seems his consciousness was made into a Cephalon, while his body was infused with Kuva and taken over by the Orokin he killed. Edited November 14, 2016 by Agentawesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyDevil Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 8 minutes ago, W.AxlRose said: I mean wouldn't you and the Orokin (Queen) be running the frame then? Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 25 minutes ago, Burritochu said: I was pretty surprised myself when I got my first glimpse of them. I was expecting the Twin Queens to be a bit more Orokin in their looks. The Orokin were the most advanced civilization in the solar system and incredibly so. I thought they would be able to bypass aging and other biological functions to keep themselves eternally perfect. There's probably complications to that. Stopping cell degradation could quite conceivably block cell growth and replenishment and a whole mess of other issues. Much easier to slow it, and create new perfect bodies when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldguy111 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 28 minutes ago, Burritochu said: I was pretty surprised myself when I got my first glimpse of them. I was expecting the Twin Queens to be a bit more Orokin in their looks. The Orokin were the most advanced civilization in the solar system and incredibly so. I thought they would be able to bypass aging and other biological functions to keep themselves eternally perfect. Since they were cast out by the orokin for being twins they probably had no access to the full technology that the orokin used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akavakaku Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just so you know, at the end your eyes go gray even if you destroy or control the kuva. It's not because of that, it's something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewsitine Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 It would be funny if that guy, Margulis' former lover, was sorta implanted into us or that was our daddy commenting what we did since now we "can hear" his voice and is no longer suppressed like the memories were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ailissa Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 58 minutes ago, JSharpie said: Yeah, she's a part of you now, it show it at the end. That's not the Queen, that's the Void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemisfortune Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just now, Ailissa said: That's not the Queen, that's the Void. I don't think the void is sentient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ailissa Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 12 minutes ago, JSharpie said: I don't think the void is sentient. Considering that, no matter what choices you make, the voice speaks through you. The whole story is based around the Tenno and the Void and the Void giving them their power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemisfortune Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ailissa said: Considering that, no matter what choices you make, the voice speaks through you. The whole story is based around the Tenno and the Void and the Void giving them their power. But no matter what choice the make the Queen still burrows in your mind and dies at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holysnir Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 me and some other players were talking about it in another post, and we used the lore and for now the only two answers are: they did something ( i forgot what) to lower the queen's age And the second is that the first queen already died and the small one is a snake infested creature that got intellegent from the red water. worm said alot by the old queen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akavakaku Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 2 hours ago, holysnir said: me and some other players were talking about it in another post, and we used the lore and for now the only two answers are: they did something ( i forgot what) to lower the queen's age And the second is that the first queen already died and the small one is a snake infested creature that got intellegent from the red water. worm said alot by the old queen What are you talking about? They're Orokin, meaning they change into new bodies when their old bodies get too old. The "young" queen has moved into a new body more recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentMobius Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) On 14/11/2016 at 4:58 AM, JSharpie said: Yes, something that was said many times through the quest. The Orokin can transfer their "souls" to different bodies. The Queens were born twins, but after the downfall of the Orokin they started using Grineer bodies (which are prone to degradation (reminds me of crisis core)). They chose different bodies, and as the queen's (the one you killed) body began to fail, she decided she wanted yours, because yours is semi immortal and super powerful. The smaller one escaped, and her body is still good. Note that there was a dead Tenno near the fire and the suggestion is that others have failed to repel the Queens. I wonder if the younger Queen already has a Tenno body rather than a Grineer one, just still wearing Grineer armour? She did seem to be whole and bipedal, whereas the Elder has a full cybernetic "tail" keeping her body functioning. Edited November 15, 2016 by SilentMobius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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