Why [TWW Spoilers] might be an Orokin

[Akavakaku]

In "The Second Dream" Hunhow calls Alad V an Orokin. The simplest explanation is that Hunhow just doesn't know the difference between Orokin and any other powerful humans. After all, if Alad were an Orokin he would know the nature of Tenno, and have prior direct knowledge of Sentients. 

But what if Alad V is Orokin, not by origin but by his own doing? Remember how he mysteriously cured himself of Infestation after winning Tubemen of Regor? Tyl Regor wasn't researching cures to Infestation, but to cloning decay. There's not much similarity there; Grineer clones and Infested technocyte have nothing in common. 

Then what if it was cloning that saved Alad? As former Head of Grineer Relations for the Corpus, it's conceivable that he managed to get his hands on some kuva at some point, perhaps as a form of insurance. Then, realizing he had no hope of ridding his body of Infestation, he decided to use the kuva to Continue into a new body.

But (we would be forced to conclude), he had no way of accessing a suitable Yuvan, or else didn't know how to override an existing mind. So he stole Regor's research on perfect cloning, cloned himself, and Continued into it, allowing him to just dispose of his old Infested body. 

So that would explain both Alad's miraculous recovery and his title of Orokin, do you think it's possible?

[Domesticon]

If he cloned himself he likely wouldn't have the facial scars from the infestation.

[PrimeLabsInc]

I just want to remark that Alad V could be an Orokin even if he doesn't know a monkeys about warframes because I'm pretty sure not every person living in the Orokin empire was working at "Tenno R&D".

[Kaotyke]

If Alad was an Orokin he would not swear by "Profit", he would have been the leader of the Corpus and/or considered too valuble to be exiled, would know better than to mess with the Infestation... even the Kweens, who were scorned because of their "sameness" knew about the Tenno.

44 minutes ago, Tyrhal said:

I just want to remark that Alad V could be an Orokin even if he doesn't know a monkeys about warframes because I'm pretty sure not every person living in the Orokin empire was working at "Tenno R&D".

Because "Orokin" was considered a "Rulling Class" rather than "A race", they were ALL humans. Just trade "Orokin" with "Noblity" and there you have it.

[MrM1]

Alad V is an Orokin since he officially got his name from the Orokin. The Orokin named him Alad V and this leads to the fact that he was existing in the times of the Orokin.

This can also explain why he is the only non-Orokin / non-Tenno who can do something useful with warframes (remember Valkyr, he used her technology and applied it to Zanuka).

[Yrveth]

7 minutes ago, MrM1 said:

he officially got his name from the Orokin

Where's that from

[Kobold101]

I would like it mentioned that the Codex says that the Corpus are descendants of the Orokin. I think.

[JalakBali]

The Corpus are direct descendants of the Orokin (per the lore of Moa at Sanctuary). But they're descendants of lower caste Orokin and had no access to higher Orokin tech which are locked by genetic code, while the Grineer, who was helped by Bilsa the high ranking Orokin, could. So the Corpus are descendants by bloodline but the Grineer are the spiritual successor of the Orokin as they got their tech and thirst of conquest.

 

The Corpus had no idea what the Tenno are because they're lower caste. The truth of what the Tenno actually are was hidden by the Orokin rulers such that regular Orokin soldiers didn't know about them (per Mag Prime lore). The Grineer also probably didn't know except the Twin Queens, either because the Grineer are usually too dumb or the Queens doesn't want to be known to use Orokin tech and knowledge by their subjects.

 

Hunhow probably doesn't know nor care about Orokin hierarchy. He just know Alad V is the same, biologically, as the Orokin.

[Tallenar]

Also note that not all Orokin knew what / who the tenno / warframes are. As we know from the "Warframe Technologies" Fragment :"In-depth information of the warframe mandate is forbidden to all but the seven."

[EmptyDevil]

Alad V isn't Orokin. The Corpus are not direct descendants of The Orokin, The Corpus are wannabes. Read the Cephalon Fragments for source.

[Akavakaku]

9 hours ago, Domesticon said:

If he cloned himself he likely wouldn't have the facial scars from the infestation.

Oh, never noticed those. Do you have any Second Dream or Shadow Debt screenshots that show them? I can't find any online. 

[Yrveth]

@Akavakaku here's a picture of him from Shadow Debt (x) and of course any recording of TSD will show them as well ^^

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