issh0man Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) so i bought this syandana because i loved it, how the wings spread out and how pretty it looked. it was something different, but after the newest update the wings close and remain closed unless you bullet jump, and then they close again. :/ was this a mistake or do you guys plan on keeping it this way? sorry if this isn't the right forum to place this, i just know that this is feedback. i'm pretty disappointed since the reason i bought it in the first place was the open wings. EDIT 1: they really shouldn't have put it in the store with open wings and left it like that for 4 days if it was a mistake or bug. they let everyone who sees it assume that the wings remain open at all times, then suddenly changed it after multiple people have bought it for the way they had perceived it. EDIT 2: apparently the wings (as well as the spitfire syandana) were supposed to remain open, but DE changed it."Changed Sari Syandana and Spitfire Syandana to be closed by default, but will open when Bullet Jumping or Aim Gliding. Appendages will now close after 5 seconds, during weapon fire, or when opening the menu." despite the fact that the reason people bought these syandanas was because of the open aspect of them. :/ EDIT 3: DE has changed it so that the sari syandana's wings open when in your ship, relays, dojo, etc. but will close once you enter a mission. while we're happy something was done, this is still not what we wanted. we are in missions a grand majority of the time, we don't all hang out in the dojo or relays, so we will still see the syandana closed shut. multiple people have suggested giving us a toggle feature or two syandanas (one with the mechanic the way it is, and one with it open constantly but closes when using menus, aiming, etc. like before it was 'fixed'). either of these compromises makes those who want it to remain closed happy, and those who want to keep it open happy, it's a win-win. EDIT 4: if you want a refund you must put it through here "Billing -> Payment/Purchase Error" tab and put "Sari Syandana Refund" in the title, otherwise it will take a while for you to get your refund. Edited December 23, 2016 by issh0man Edited title for clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobyTheDuck Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 The original plan was to have it open only on bullet jumps, but probably some bone problems made it stay open all the time. The reason it was fixed its because you couldnt see the menu while wearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiWarp Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yeah, I loved them open on Titania. Now I have to bullet jump or aim glide to get a glimpse of her majestic wingspan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issh0man Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, MobyTheDuck said: The original plan was to have it open only on bullet jumps, but probably some bone problems made it stay open all the time. The reason it was fixed its because you couldnt see the menu while wearing it. i wish that it would have been more clear that it originally wasn't supposed to be open wing the entire time or fixed it immediately or else i wouldn't have bought it. :/ i was able to see the menu, it might have been a problem with others though. i wish they'd give us an option to have it open or closed. i'm just bummed cause i really loved it and paid for it, and now the entire part that i loved about it is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issh0man Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 1 minute ago, PsiWarp said: Yeah, I loved them open on Titania. Now I have to bullet jump or aim glide to get a glimpse of her majestic wingspan. it's one of the only syandanas that look good on her even though they clipped her butt wings a bit but now the entire thing does bleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambit23Z Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Contact support and ask for a refund, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaserApocalypse Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 This is alot better. Was annoying to have it up in your face constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokime Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) I bought it earlier today and now I'm dissapointed. The thing was well made, it closed up when you shoot, and opened menus, so it didn't got in the way. Edited December 21, 2016 by Lokime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issh0man Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Lokime said: I bought it earlier today and now I'm dissapointed. The thing was well made, it closed up when you shoot, and opened menus, so it didn't got in the way. exactly! i loved them open and that's why i bought it in the first place. if that wasn't the original intention they should have pulled it from the market and fixed it and then released it instead of putting it up as is. 3 minutes ago, Rambit23Z said: Contact support and ask for a refund, maybe? i'm tempted but at the same time i don't know if i want to even deal with all that jazz :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt.Nagae Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 after some test, i noticed the older behavior of the wings position was tied to the idle animations, it looked awesome with titania noble/agile stance.i'm glad the bugs got sorted, but the always open kinda grown on me. i wonder if isn't possible to give a option to use the always open behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitepanda1205 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rambit23Z said: Contact support and ask for a refund, maybe? Tennogen is non-refundable. It tells you that in find print at the bottom of the steam authorization box when purchasing. It says to note that the content you are purchasing is non-refundable. Edited December 21, 2016 by thewhitepanda1205 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokime Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, thewhitepanda1205 said: Tennogen is non-refundable. It tells you that in find print at the bottom of the steam authorization box when purchasing. So basically we bought something that was changed for no good reason and now we're stuck with it even if we dislike it. I'm definitely not buying anything else from tennogen with such politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitepanda1205 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Pretty Much. It pays to read fine print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitepanda1205 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Somebody could check though. I'm only 90% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error989 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) they should make it open when you sprint, slide or do any kind of faster movement... (I dont own it tho) Edited December 21, 2016 by Error989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt.Nagae Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Well, isn't refundable through automated steam system, which is used to refund games. maybe go through warframe support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreme Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) I bought because the wings stayed out when idle, now it only opens when you trigger an aimglide Now I feel I wasted 7$ Edited December 21, 2016 by Coldstreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issh0man Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, Lt.Nagae said: Well, isn't refundable through automated steam system, which is used to refund games. maybe go through warframe support? i don't think it's refundable at all. :/ this is so S#&$ty bleh. 2 minutes ago, Coldstreme said: I bought because the wings stayed out when idle, now it only opens when you trigger an aimglide Now I feel I wasted 7$ and same! i'm really disappointed that they didn't fix it from the very beginning. if i knew it only opened on bullet jump, i wouldn't have bought it, and now i'm stuck with it. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreme Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 this is hella scummy, no compensation whatsoever. I paid for what it was at the time, and now they change it to make it worse. And DE probably won't do anything about it since they have 100% of the power when dealing with complaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issh0man Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Coldstreme said: this is hella scummy, no compensation whatsoever. I paid for what it was at the time, and now they change it to make it worse. And DE probably won't do anything about it since they have 100% of the power when dealing with complaints this is so unfair and, imo, false advertising. it was advertised and sold as butterfly wings that opened up, people bought it bc that's what they thought it was, and now it was switched to something else. it shouldn't have been left and sold in the market with the wings appearing as remaining open for 4 days and then suddenly being changed with "well it wasn't supposed to be like that!" if it was bugged it should have been temporarily pulled from the market and put back up when fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitepanda1205 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 1 minute ago, issh0man said: this is so unfair and, imo, false advertising. it was advertised and sold as butterfly wings that opened up, people bought it bc that's what they thought it was, and now it was switched to something else. The little clipart icon in your syandana inventory showed the wings closed so you had something really small showing what the wings were supposed to be like. Also, they are closed for the most part on the steam page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issh0man Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Just now, thewhitepanda1205 said: The little clipart icon in your syandana inventory showed the wings closed so you had something really small showing what the wings were supposed to be like. Also, they are closed for the most part on the steam page. except when you equipped it and previewed it on your warframe, it showed the wings wide open so that's what me and others who bought it thought we were getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitepanda1205 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) That's what I mean. You had the clipart showing you, but when you previewed the wings, they were out. Basically, you needed to only pay attention to the clipart and steam page although some images had the wings open. Edited December 21, 2016 by thewhitepanda1205 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivenis Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, thewhitepanda1205 said: The little clipart icon in your syandana inventory showed the wings closed so you had something really small showing what the wings were supposed to be like. Also, they are closed for the most part on the steam page. The preview was open tho, I use to pay more attetion to preview than to the icons honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitepanda1205 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) At least on the steam page they are closed in all, but one slide. I understand the clipart icons aren't very noticeable. Edited December 21, 2016 by thewhitepanda1205 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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