PlateFace Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I was told by clan leader to come here and say i want those wings to be like this but i dont actually own them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CG.WFO.A4NC.EN.CM-Nub Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 DE needs to revert this ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyKavatLady Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I've submitted a support ticket requesting a refund.. fingers crossed I would happily re-purchase it if was either put back to how it was or a toggle added though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yacatect Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I liked having them always open. Having them open during bullet jumps doesn't seem to make sense to me personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrphanLauncher Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akariteru Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, CrazyKavatLady said: I've submitted a support ticket requesting a refund.. fingers crossed I would happily re-purchase it if was either put back to how it was or a toggle added though! Let us know how you go, I may do the same thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelward Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Sorry, I'd agree with this statement IF the wings didn't block my field of view when aiming. I was one of the ones who asked for them to be down so I wasn't randomly blinded by the wings in the middle of combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrphanLauncher Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I was also told by clan leader to come here and say I want those wings to be like this, I also don't own them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredaven Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 To be fair, afaik the "open" all the time state was a bug. The sari was always presented in a close state and thus follows the guildelines for size/area it covers. The open one..not so much. There's a reason you havent seen giant syandans before. (case in point, the spitefire was designed to be open all the time and is thus a lot smaller then the sari) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akariteru Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Caelward said: Sorry, I'd agree with this statement IF the wings didn't block my field of view when aiming. I was one of the ones who asked for them to be down so I wasn't randomly blinded by the wings in the middle of combat. Hence why a toggle option would be a good idea - allow us to pick whether we prefer them up or down. I'd guess a lot of the people annoyed by this have their field of view set that it doesn't bother them while aiming (as I do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredaven Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Just now, Caelward said: Sorry, I'd agree with this statement IF the wings didn't block my field of view when aiming. I was one of the ones who asked for them to be down so I wasn't randomly blinded by the wings in the middle of combat. Yep this. When I submitted the spitefire I made like 2-3 variations that I ran thru DE to make sure they didnt cover the aim/menus etc etc when looking at things. Or just piss off people who can't see S#&$ cause theres a guy with a parachute strapped to his back standing in the way:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CG-Desoth Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 my clan leader told me to complain like orphanlauncher guy (he launches orphans in real life) so im gonna say let us choose how we want it to work with toggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorTip Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Folks raising a stink just because the cosmetic wings are working as they're supposed to, open when Bullet Jumping or Aim Gliding, or in other words, when in flight. Because, y'know, that's how winged animals use their wings to fly. It's just a cosmetic item, it's not game-breaking in any way, sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredaven Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Just now, -CG-CaramelSquid said: Hence why a toggle option would be a good idea - allow us to pick whether we prefer them up or down. I'd guess a lot of the people annoyed by this have their field of view set that it doesn't bother them while aiming (as I do). Toggle options only make sense when its univeral things. "show gun" well thats univeral right. everyone is carrying one. a "unfold wings" is a pretty damn specific toggle feature. And considering that DE still havent bothered to make a toggle for enabling/disabling primes I can't see them committing the resources to a toggle for a singular item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotofuTofu Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, RazorTip said: Folks raising a stink just because the cosmetic wings are working as they're supposed to, open when Bullet Jumping or Aim Gliding, or in other words, when in flight. Because, y'know, that's how winged animals use their wings to fly. It's just a cosmetic item, it's not game-breaking in any way, sheesh. Except you totally missed the point. We bought them because the wings are open by default, and now it's changed. The more y,know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstroa Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I thought this Syandana was beautiful and was waiting for it for a long time to be released when it got reworked by its creator and announced that it made it into Tennogen. I hoped to see an open-wings idle syandana for some time, possibly even as long as I've played Warframe and then we finally had it. Allegedly it was a bug (I am quite sckeptical about that claim, I think it was working as intended), but to me it had an amazing scripting: open while idle, closed when menu browsing and when using weapons. It worked so well in game for Relays and general viewing to be flashy and appealing, but also did not hinder my ability to play the game and fight in missions (It also looked very appropriate and beautiful on Titania, particularly during Razorwing). I paid actual money, not platinum or credits, for this syandana because it was exactly what I wanted and the aesthetic I was looking for. Yet, now the syandana is 99% of the time (if not more) closed and bullet jumping to get them open for a mere five seconds is incredibly upsetting. I do not think this change was fair to the people that had the aesthetic of open wings in mind when they bought it, nor was it fair to suddenly change them and switch up its mechanic once people had come to enjoy the wings open. You could have at least given us the choice between a mainly closed or a mainly open version of the Syandana, but it was not given, it was abruptly changed. The beauty of this Syandana feels hollow now that the change in script has given it a very different feel and no longer fits the previous aesthetic it had achieved so well previously.I believe either a change or a refund is in order. Please let it be a change back to the old, or a choice, rather than ruining its beauty as a open idle for everyone based on a few angry opinions or whatever else might have caused the unnecessary change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyCharm Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 1 minute ago, RazorTip said: Folks raising a stink just because the cosmetic wings are working as they're supposed to, open when Bullet Jumping or Aim Gliding, or in other words, when in flight. Because, y'know, that's how winged animals use their wings to fly. It's just a cosmetic item, it's not game-breaking in any way, sheesh. I love how you completely dismiss what people are complaining about here though. They were sold with wings open which closed when you bullet jumped or were shooting. They're now being sold with closed wings which open when bullet jumping or aim gliding. And I don't know what sort of birds you've seen but what sort of dumbass bird does barrel rolls with its wings open. It's not game breaking? What forums have you been reading.. this is fashionframe. Where the only thing we have for end game IS fashion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akariteru Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Maelstroa said: I thought this Syandana was beautiful and was waiting for it for a long time to be released when it got reworked by its creator and announced that it made it into Tennogen. I hoped to see an open-wings idle syandana for some time, possibly even as long as I've played Warframe and then we finally had it. Allegedly it was a bug (I am quite sckeptical about that claim, I think it was working as intended), but to me it had an amazing scripting: open while idle, closed when menu browsing and when using weapons. It worked so well in game for Relays and general viewing to be flashy and appealing, but also did not hinder my ability to play the game and fight in missions (It also looked very appropriate and beautiful on Titania, particularly during Razorwing). I paid actual money, not platinum or credits, for this syandana because it was exactly what I wanted and the aesthetic I was looking for. Yet, now the syandana is 99% of the time (if not more) closed and bullet jumping to get them open for a mere five seconds is incredibly upsetting. I do not think this change was fair to the people that had the aesthetic of open wings in mind when they bought it, nor was it fair to suddenly change them and switch up its mechanic once people had come to enjoy the wings open. You could have at least given us the choice between a mainly closed or a mainly open version of the Syandana, but it was not given, it was abruptly changed. The beauty of this Syandana feels hollow now that the change in script has given it a very different feel and no longer fits the previous aesthetic it had achieved so well previously.I believe either a change or a refund is in order. Please let it be a change back to the old, or a choice, rather than ruining its beauty as a open idle for everyone based on a few angry opinions or whatever else might have caused the unnecessary change. This. I can't speak for everyone, but I know I bought it based on the way it looked, and has looked for four days. There was no statement from DE that it would be changed OR that it was a bug until now. If they'd gone 'this is a bug, it's meant to stay closed, and we're planning on fixing this", a lot of wallets would have been saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorTip Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Just now, TotofuTofu said: Except you totally missed the point. We bought them because the wings are open by default, and now it's changed. The more y,know. Then just hope DE makes it so that it is toggeable. Just my two cents, but I'd rather have those wings on my Oberon folded when he's idle or moving on the ground, and open when he's in the air. 1 minute ago, LuckyCharm said: I love how you completely dismiss what people are complaining about here though. They were sold with wings open which closed when you bullet jumped or were shooting. They're now being sold with closed wings which open when bullet jumping or aim gliding. And I don't know what sort of birds you've seen but what sort of dumbass bird does barrel rolls with its wings open. Because that's how birds fly, apparently, by constantly doing barrel rolls, not by flapping their wings, or by gliding. Just barrel rolls. 3 minutes ago, LuckyCharm said: It's not game breaking? What forums have you been reading.. this is fashionframe. Where the only thing we have for end game IS fashion "Fashionframe"... Yeah, no, after this last comment, I can no longer take you seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelward Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) So the Sari Syandana is very well modeled. It's a pleasure to look at and colours very well. Even when down the wings look good, but there's no arguing that there are a lot of players who were much happier with the wings open by default. I've come to like having them open as well. Of course, the wings were not supposed to be up all the time. They were only supposed to be up while bullet jumping. Now of course a number of players (including myself) had to go and raise a stink about being blinded by the wings when aiming. I stand by this being no good. The cosmetic should not negatively influence gameplay. Now for the important part. How about a shuffling of triggers? Could the switch be changed so that the wings were out by default? They are fantastic to look at, and while I asked for the blinding problem to be fixed, I'd also love to have them up by default. Then I'd ask for a couple triggers in which the wings would be folded. Bullet jumping, we're jumping headfirst, we want to be aerodynamic. When using stealth abilities, cloaking or silencing. Probably unneccessary, but hey, we're trying to keep a low profile. And the most important, have the wings immediately fold when we aim in. Agree? Disagree? Discuss? Also, I know there are suggestions for a UI toggle. I'm thinking if shuffling the model triggers like this could settle the issue, it'd make for a quicker, simpler solution. Edited December 21, 2016 by Caelward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akariteru Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, RazorTip said: Then just hope DE makes it so that it is toggeable. Just my two cents, but I'd rather have those wings on my Oberon folded when he's idle or moving on the ground, and open when he's in the air. A toggle is exactly what we need. Some prefer it one way, some prefer it another. Even if it was a bug at first, the fact is that many people bought it because of how it looked while bugged, and now are disappointed. A simple open/closed feature is what we need here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smilomaniac Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yeah that'd be nice, since I specifically bought the wings for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelward Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Anyways, while I complained about the wings blinding me, I've seen your complaints and acknowledge your problems. Leaving it at "well i told them to change that" certainly doesn't help. The whole conversation should probably be in Art, Animation and UI so I started this topic over there. I made a suggestion of changing the triggers so the wings are up all the time, but fold out of the way when you aim. Edited December 21, 2016 by Caelward oh, looks like a merged topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_malaya_ Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Due to the large amount of complaints regarding the recent wing changes, I propose that a toggle be implemented for syandanas called "Wing Style" in which players can choose between two states: "Butterfly mode" has the wings spread except during aiming and melee attacks. "Moth mode" has the wings folded except during aim glide I feel this is the best way to go about the issue and maximizes player satisfaction, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CG.WFO.A4NC.EN.CM-Nub Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 This sounds good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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