Hesyol Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Well it all looks interesting but... 5k mutagen sample? It's a lot for an account I'm using for a year and it's just crazy for the new account I just started. And like with Sibear I'm not sure if it's even worth it. Tell us it's a bug please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snib Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 9 minutes ago, Zendadaist said: Erm. is the Hema Research Mutatgen Sample cost accurate? It seems to be vastly out of proportion compared to all of the rest of it. I afforded all the rest of it 5-10 times over myself but my active clanmates pooling together all our mutagen samples have managed to scrape up 1/10th of what is needed. ikr? 500k mutagen samples, what the actual f? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyanidekiller24 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Error989 said: yisss gib me all dem rivenz lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geraaltix Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) There's some odd jerkiness of the camera in parts of the tileset of the infested ship part of the quest. One end of the L shaped hallway consistently seems to create this issue. It looks like a framerate drop, but when I look at my actual framerate, it's unchanged. It's especially noticeable if I strafe across that end of the tile while facing the lockers. For reference, while my computer is not a potato, it's not a high end with a strong GPU. The rest of the tileset seems fine on lowered settings, though I did have to specifically set them lower to play the mission. Edited December 22, 2016 by Geraaltix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armetage Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 It is beyond me how people just love DE no matter how bad a systems is. By adding shotguns and secondaries to the Riven system without actually fixing the completely random nature of the system they have actually made it worse and even more random. There are 80 primaries and 75 secondaries in the game atm. If you exclude primes and syndicate weapons that's still 124 weapons. So you now have a 1 in 124 chance to get the riven mod you want. So good luck to the people wanting those Sonicor Riven mods. So if and that is IF you get a riven mod from Sortie reward you only have a 1 in 124 chance to get the mod you want and since you can get repeat riven mods the odds will never improve. On top of that if you have a riven mod with 2 stats on it there's a 1 in 552 chance that you will get the stats you want. If you want 3 stats on you riven mod guess what that's a 1 in 12144 chance of getting the stats you want and if you want a 4 stat riven mod with 4 desirable stats you have a 1 in 255024 chance. And no matter how much you roll the odds of you getting the stats you want will never improve. On top of these odds, of you getting what you want, this is not even considering that each stats has a range it can be. So lets say you want a 4 stats Riven mod for you Sonicor that has max or almost max stats well assuming there is only a 5% deviation in stats at a .1 increment you have a 1 in 1,725,288,619,824 chance of that mod. Why people are so over the moon over a system that is creating and maintaining artificial scarcity though the most random possible implementation of this system is beyond me. This system is designed to get plat out of players that's all. So now with shotguns and secondaries there are even more mods that will be selling for 1000+ plat. There are so many ways to make this system good for the player base. So many games have done random loot systems better than this. Simplest way would be to let the players lock stats when they re-roll that way they can make the mod they want if they get a Riven mod for a weapon they like. Combine that with a way to actually farm for Riven mods with at least 1 way to guarantee 1 Riven mod a day. But DE will not do this because this system is not for the benefit of the player base it's to pad the wallet of DE. This system Still does not even do what the stated goal of the system was to make underused weapons better. People just want Soma, Tonkor, and Simulor Riven mods and now we get a new round with Shotguns and secondaries so this is just giving more mods to already powerful weapons and doing nothing to make under powered weapons better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustSneaky Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) I still missing 500 more detonites for javelin and i already spend week farming on double resources...5k mutagen sample. .Are you kidding me!? Edited December 22, 2016 by JustSneaky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrifeMk.7 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The TAA issue was suppose to be fixed yesterday morning. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYRVAL Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Ghost clan .... SERIOULSLY ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltage Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Still no fix for LoR gear changing between stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lSnowFoxl Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Wtf is going on with the index matches for the quest. Making it a challenge okay but at match 5 getting instant killed non stop how can i bank points if it keeps killing me. Every try its rip 180k like wtf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksonfive Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 500k mutagem sample Spoiler wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snib Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 this quest is boring and uninspired I don't even know what to say anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustSneaky Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KYRVAL said: Ghost clan .... SERIOULSLY ???? Good for you, in my clan, where only two players play (and im much more active) i have to pay @(*()$ 15k. I'we played since 2013 and got like 500 of them. This is just insane. Now much for frame... 150k!? This is turning in to level of grind ala War Thunder. Edited December 22, 2016 by JustSneaky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperShpee Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The Research Requirements for the Hema is way too high. srsly guys? 50k mutagen samples for a storm clan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PookieNumnums Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, [DE]Drew said: New Quest - The Glast Gambit: you have discovered that Nef Anyo has stolen the children of the Mycona Colony, and it is up to you to get them back. he steals kids.... dafuq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celthric317 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Looking forward to see how the new missions are done. Been trying to do them for 30 minutes now, and they don't make much sense to me yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippz0r Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Awesome, looking forward to test drive all the new things, ty. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYRVAL Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JustSneaky said: Good for you, in my clan, where only two players play (and im much more active) i have to pay @(*()$ 15k. I'we played since 2013 and got like 500 of them. This is just insane. Now much for frame... 150k!? This is turning in to level of grind ala War Thunder. I've been playing since April 2013 to , and i have 850 muta.... and I'm alone in my clan my friends founder IRL, leave warframe for this type of abuse insane Edited December 22, 2016 by KYRVAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShogunNoir Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Armetage said: It is beyond me how people just love DE no matter how bad a systems is. By adding shotguns and secondaries to the Riven system without actually fixing the completely random nature of the system they have actually made it worse and even more random. There are 80 primaries and 75 secondaries in the game atm. If you exclude primes and syndicate weapons that's still 124 weapons. So you now have a 1 in 124 chance to get the riven mod you want. So good luck to the people wanting those Sonicor Riven mods. So if and that is IF you get a riven mod from Sortie reward you only have a 1 in 124 chance to get the mod you want and since you can get repeat riven mods the odds will never improve. On top of that if you have a riven mod with 2 stats on it there's a 1 in 552 chance that you will get the stats you want. If you want 3 stats on you riven mod guess what that's a 1 in 12144 chance of getting the stats you want and if you want a 4 stat riven mod with 4 desirable stats you have a 1 in 255024 chance. And no matter how much you roll the odds of you getting the stats you want will never improve. On top of these odds, of you getting what you want, this is not even considering that each stats has a range it can be. So lets say you want a 4 stats Riven mod for you Sonicor that has max or almost max stats well assuming there is only a 5% deviation in stats at a .1 increment you have a 1 in 1,725,288,619,824 chance of that mod. Why people are so over the moon over a system that is creating and maintaining artificial scarcity though the most random possible implementation of this system is beyond me. This system is designed to get plat out of players that's all. So now with shotguns and secondaries there are even more mods that will be selling for 1000+ plat. There are so many ways to make this system good for the player base. So many games have done random loot systems better than this. Simplest way would be to let the players lock stats when they re-roll that way they can make the mod they want if they get a Riven mod for a weapon they like. Combine that with a way to actually farm for Riven mods with at least 1 way to guarantee 1 Riven mod a day. But DE will not do this because this system is not for the benefit of the player base it's to pad the wallet of DE. This system Still does not even do what the stated goal of the system was to make underused weapons better. People just want Soma, Tonkor, and Simulor Riven mods and now we get a new round with Shotguns and secondaries so this is just giving more mods to already powerful weapons and doing nothing to make under powered weapons better. That is a one in one and three quarter QUADRILLION chance of getting that mod. For reference, there are approximately 100 billion stars in the milky way. And that's before you factor in the extra dilution regarding the likelyhood of getting a Riven reward in the first place. I've done every single Sortie since The War Within dropped bar yesterdays, and i've recieved 3 Riven mods total. THIS SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK. I appreciate that RNG is necessary to pad out the content so people don't get what they want straight away, but there's only so much RNG people are willing to tolerate before they just stop doing it. And it's not as if you can buy a Riven mod you want from someone, as they almost always ask ridiculous platinum for them. Edited December 22, 2016 by ShogunNoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustSneaky Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, KYRVAL said: I've been playing since April 2013 to , and i have 850 muta.... and I'm alone in my clan my friends founder IRL, leave warframe for this type of abuse insane Yeah seems like i wait for review with added stuff and buying it for pl..goodbye frost and ember sets. I won't be able to farm this..like never. This is first time, warframe force me to actually pay for new content. Edited December 22, 2016 by JustSneaky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrys_Red_Cola Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 This new quest line is incredibly buggy, had stuff not dropping costing us the game multiple times textures bugging out and everything. Sort it please making me pay credits to do this and then bugging out is not ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snib Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, raaaandomwaffles said: This new quest line is incredibly buggy, had stuff not dropping costing us the game multiple times textures bugging out and everything. Sort it please making me pay credits to do this and then bugging out is not ok yeah I bugged out once at 120k and once at 180k. Luckily I couldn't care less about credits but I have no idea how a new player is supposed to deal with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrys_Red_Cola Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Snib said: yeah I bugged out once at 120k and once at 180k. Luckily I couldn't care less about credits but I have no idea how a new player is supposed to deal with that I've had to redo this same one like 3 times now, this is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Chino Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I should have expected everyone complaining before contributing ;-; Spoiler Thats all my mutagen sample minus those 20 I saved for crafting. And I doubt the rest of my friends will have as much as I have, so no way to finish this research. I hope that they return the contributions with a script or something, if they change this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kebra Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Yeah, more tweaks to the Conclave few people play. What about correcting years old bugs like the minimap and Vauban's Bastille... oh, and Kavat grannies flamthrowers hitboxes hitting through walls and from afar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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