I have been running 30+ ODD missions since the Hema bomb dropped. I have learned a lot about mutagen sample farming from other players and my own experience. And I seem to answer the same questions every time I play.
How many waves?
I normally run 20 waves of ODD and that gives around 100 mutangen samples without any boosters. Because RNG also plays a role effective results may vary from 80-120 samples. I prefer to run 20 waves to balance out bad rng and because the ratio wave-length/mutagen-sample-drop does not get significantly better over time. Enemies in the first 20 waves do not require much work. Later waves will spawn a large number of Eximus units.
1. The keys
The obvious thing first: build ODD keys and have them ready because there is always somebody that did forget building them.
2. The party
The most stressful part is setting up a party (D&D player here). Go into recruiting and search for a ODD party: "LF ODD [Mutagen Sample] farm"
If you do not find a party or you see some other tenno looking for ODD just invite them an create your own party. If you have your party setup but still do not have 4 players just use recruiting: "H ODD [Mutagen Sample] farm". Best time is for this are the evenings.
3. The minimal party (2 warframes)
The minimal party has at least two warframes. But be aware that you will get about 50% less drops in 20 waves. Nekros with 250% range and the despoil mod is the most important part of the party. Hydroid with decent range (100-150%), some efficiency, lots of strength and most importantly the pilfering swarm mod.
The tactics:
Defend the pod and kill all enemies with slash weapons to increase the desecrate rate. Nekros uses desecrate all the time. Use Hydroid's tentacle swarm (pilfering) to catch the enemies. Enemies hold by tentacles can be killed without loosing the additional drop chance of pilfering swarm.
Recasting tentacle swarm when enemies walk through the general area of tentacles will catch them. Also recasting seems to do more initial damage to enemies (I could not find anything about that in the wiki).
5. The perfect party (4 warframes) Nekros with 250% range and the despoil mod is the most important part of the party. Just one nekros because they do not stack and one Nekros 250% range covers the whole area. Speed Nova with 40% power stregth and 250% duration. 2 Hydroids with preferable limited range 70-100%, some efficiency, lots of strength and most importantly the pilfering swarm mod.
The tactics:
Use speed nova to bring in the enemies much faster. Killing primed enemies will not interfere with Nekros desecrate. Nekros will run desecrate all the time. Use Hydroid's tentacle swarm (pilfering) to at catch the enemies. Enemies hold by tentacles can be killed without loosing the additional drop chance of pilfering swarm; same as before. Hydroid 1 uses his tentacle swarm for stairs leading upwards on the one side and Hydroid 2 uses his tentacle swarm for the stairs going down to the other side. Tentacles do not stack but with limited range you can create two separate areas with tentacle swarm and will get more enemies touched or killed by the tentacles.
And as said above, recasting tentacle swarm seems to do more initial damage to enemies.
A stationary shield osprey or an ancient healer specter make 20 waves trivial. A charming smeeta kavat, a drop chance booster and a drop rate booster will significantly increase mutagen sample drops.
6. Dont bring ...
Dont bring Ember (Prime) when farming for mutagen sample. Crispy corpses cannot be desecrated.
Dont bring Trin (Prime) because we dont need her for 20 waves. Our Nekros does well on its own with despoil, Hydroid has his puddle to hide in when needed and Nova has her anitmatter bomb drop to do mass killings.
Dont bring Frost (Prime) because we dont want to slow enemies down. The pod needs no protection because we have juicy tentacles for that job.
Dont bring Saryn (Prime) because she takes too long to kill enemies at later waves.
Dont bring Atlas with his ore gaze mod because it takes too long to petrify enemies.
7. Use the time on ODD to level weapons
As long as you have at least one fully levelled weapon you can use the 20 waves for leveling the rest of your weapons.
8. Try to stay sane - watch something on tv or listen to music
Doing ODD is interesting the first 5 times but when you have to farm thousend or tens of thousands of mutagen for your clan it is just boring. Listen to some music or watch some netflix on a second screen or tv will keep you sane.
9. The result 20 waves with the perfect party will drop - depending on rng - something from 80-120 mutagen samples. This is without booster or kavat. With chance and drop rate booster 200-250 samples are what you are getting.
10. Mutagen samples / minute
Setting up a party can take 5-10 minutes. 20 waves will take 25-30 mintues with speed nova. You get 3-4 mutagen samples per minute play time without booster or 6-8 mutagen samples per minute play time with double booster.
11. Additional loot
With 20 waves you will get some orokin cells and some more neurodes. That may not look much at first but doing ODD over and over again will have you drown those two rare ressources. Relic drops or small endo drops (80) are common for rotation A (5 and 10). Rotation B gives one Alad V Nav coordinate quite often and rotation C has a chance of giving a forma bp. Credit gains in ODD should be ignored.
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I have been running 30+ ODD missions since the Hema bomb dropped. I have learned a lot about mutagen sample farming from other players and my own experience. And I seem to answer the same questions every time I play.
How many waves?
I normally run 20 waves of ODD and that gives around 100 mutangen samples without any boosters. Because RNG also plays a role effective results may vary from 80-120 samples. I prefer to run 20 waves to balance out bad rng and because the ratio wave-length/mutagen-sample-drop does not get significantly better over time. Enemies in the first 20 waves do not require much work. Later waves will spawn a large number of Eximus units.
1. The keys
The obvious thing first: build ODD keys and have them ready because there is always somebody that did forget building them.
2. The party
The most stressful part is setting up a party (D&D player here). Go into recruiting and search for a ODD party: "LF ODD [Mutagen Sample] farm"
If you do not find a party or you see some other tenno looking for ODD just invite them an create your own party. If you have your party setup but still do not have 4 players just use recruiting: "H ODD [Mutagen Sample] farm". Best time is for this are the evenings.
3. The minimal party (2 warframes)
The minimal party has at least two warframes. But be aware that you will get about 50% less drops in 20 waves.
Nekros with 250% range and the despoil mod is the most important part of the party.
Hydroid with decent range (100-150%), some efficiency, lots of strength and most importantly the pilfering swarm mod.
The tactics:
Defend the pod and kill all enemies with slash weapons to increase the desecrate rate. Nekros uses desecrate all the time. Use Hydroid's tentacle swarm (pilfering) to catch the enemies. Enemies hold by tentacles can be killed without loosing the additional drop chance of pilfering swarm.
Recasting tentacle swarm when enemies walk through the general area of tentacles will catch them. Also recasting seems to do more initial damage to enemies (I could not find anything about that in the wiki).
5. The perfect party (4 warframes)
Nekros with 250% range and the despoil mod is the most important part of the party. Just one nekros because they do not stack and one Nekros 250% range covers the whole area.
Speed Nova with 40% power stregth and 250% duration.
2 Hydroids with preferable limited range 70-100%, some efficiency, lots of strength and most importantly the pilfering swarm mod.
The tactics:
Use speed nova to bring in the enemies much faster. Killing primed enemies will not interfere with Nekros desecrate. Nekros will run desecrate all the time. Use Hydroid's tentacle swarm (pilfering) to at catch the enemies. Enemies hold by tentacles can be killed without loosing the additional drop chance of pilfering swarm; same as before. Hydroid 1 uses his tentacle swarm for stairs leading upwards on the one side and Hydroid 2 uses his tentacle swarm for the stairs going down to the other side. Tentacles do not stack but with limited range you can create two separate areas with tentacle swarm and will get more enemies touched or killed by the tentacles.
And as said above, recasting tentacle swarm seems to do more initial damage to enemies.
A stationary shield osprey or an ancient healer specter make 20 waves trivial. A charming smeeta kavat, a drop chance booster and a drop rate booster will significantly increase mutagen sample drops.
6. Dont bring ...
Dont bring Ember (Prime) when farming for mutagen sample. Crispy corpses cannot be desecrated.
Dont bring Trin (Prime) because we dont need her for 20 waves. Our Nekros does well on its own with despoil, Hydroid has his puddle to hide in when needed and Nova has her anitmatter
bombdrop to do mass killings.Dont bring Frost (Prime) because we dont want to slow enemies down. The pod needs no protection because we have juicy tentacles for that job.
Dont bring Saryn (Prime) because she takes too long to kill enemies at later waves.
Dont bring Atlas with his ore gaze mod because it takes too long to petrify enemies.
7. Use the time on ODD to level weapons
As long as you have at least one fully levelled weapon you can use the 20 waves for leveling the rest of your weapons.
8. Try to stay sane - watch something on tv or listen to music
Doing ODD is interesting the first 5 times but when you have to farm thousend or tens of thousands of mutagen for your clan it is just boring. Listen to some music or watch some netflix on a second screen or tv will keep you sane.
9. The result
20 waves with the perfect party will drop - depending on rng - something from 80-120 mutagen samples. This is without booster or kavat. With chance and drop rate booster 200-250 samples are what you are getting.
10. Mutagen samples / minute
Setting up a party can take 5-10 minutes. 20 waves will take 25-30 mintues with speed nova. You get 3-4 mutagen samples per minute play time without booster or 6-8 mutagen samples per minute play time with double booster.
11. Additional loot
With 20 waves you will get some orokin cells and some more neurodes. That may not look much at first but doing ODD over and over again will have you drown those two rare ressources. Relic drops or small endo drops (80) are common for rotation A (5 and 10). Rotation B gives one Alad V Nav coordinate quite often and rotation C has a chance of giving a forma bp. Credit gains in ODD should be ignored.
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