Troll_Logic Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) Brilliant. Way to go. Capturing the kuva burned the timed for the reactor. Found a couple more kuva map errors. I was in a rescue kuva flood mission and the siphon was after the rescue. So now the players have to fight off the defenders, harvest kuva, & keep the target alive. That is extremely poor map design. I was in two capture siphon missions yesterday. The first put the target close enough to the siphon that the siphon & target were activated simultaneously. The second put the hostage after the siphon (which is good) but put him close enough that triggering the siphon also triggered the target to run. Edited February 2, 2017 by Troll_Logic Added additional examples of logic errors in placing siphon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks013 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Yeah thats why in sabotage kuva i always tell tenno to kuva first same goes for relics ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine027 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Here is an idea, not do fire sabotage then, you do knwo you can also do ice or magnetic sabotage without triggering a timer that way like fire does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Well, if you're worried you won't be fast enough, do the coolant instead. Stop doing stupid stuff in the missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I often end up in pub squads with people who refuse to wait on doing the reactor. It's rapidly becoming a serious pet peeve, so much that I don't want to do public kuva sabs anymore. I really wish they'd make sure the siphon spawned on the way to the reactor, or maybe delayed the timer until the siphon is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Fe-McHamm3rShot Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) There is a Grineer planetside tileset where you have to disable the blah blah. Sometimes the Kuva Siphon gets hidden behind a locked portion of the map until you finish the Sabo. Then as you smash the reactor, the 5 min timer starts. Make it to the Siphon, collect the Kuva, and make it to extraction all before then. I think I'm 4 of 5 so far in those scenarios. ^ And if it's a Flood, I always do them solo. Pubs love to mess stuff up, bring lvl 3 weeps, and are often get the most revives in the mission bait. Edited January 31, 2017 by -Fe-McHamm3rShot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)vinster Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I did a Kuva Flood assassination mission with the Jackal last night and the siphon machine was right next to the locked exit door that only opens after killing the Jackal. I could still complete the siphon destruction but had to watch in vain as it captured a few clouds while I was killing the Jackal. But yeah, I've also experienced numerous instances of siphon machines behind other locked doors like with Rescue and sometimes with bad luck, a timer as well. I'm sure DE will tweak some of these issues to make it better in the future, but we'll have to live with this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaUrchins Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 What's the big deal? It's your squad's failure, not DE's. Did they somehow prevent you from collecting kuva or did you mess up yourselves? Blame it on your own incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll_Logic Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, SeaUrchins said: What's the big deal? It's your squad's failure, not DE's. Did they somehow prevent you from collecting kuva or did you mess up yourselves? Blame it on your own incompetence. Why don't you reread the post rather than knee jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll_Logic Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, (PS4)vinster said: I did a Kuva Flood assassination mission with the Jackal last night and the siphon machine was right next to the locked exit door that only opens after killing the Jackal. Yup. Happens way too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaUrchins Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, Troll_Logic said: Why don't you reread the post rather than knee jerk. You messed up the reactor and failed kuva, not DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll_Logic Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 23 minutes ago, -Fe-McHamm3rShot said: ^ And if it's a Flood, I always do them solo. Pubs love to mess stuff up, bring lvl 3 weeps, and are often get the most revives in the mission bait. I do all of them solo. Much easier, much faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll_Logic Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, SeaUrchins said: You messed up the reactor and failed kuva, not DE. Nope. You didn't read the message. You replied with a canned answer that I'm guessing you use often. Stop with the knee jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll_Logic Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 34 minutes ago, Marine027 said: Here is an idea, not do fire sabotage then, you do knwo you can also do ice or magnetic sabotage without triggering a timer that way like fire does. 31 minutes ago, Ker-Blammo said: Well, if you're worried you won't be fast enough, do the coolant instead. Stop doing stupid stuff in the missions. Sure, that would have been better, but both of you are still missing the point. Putting the kuva siphon AFTER the goal in any mission is stupid and poor programming. There may be some ways a team could adapt to some of the scenarios, but it's stupid and no good reason for it. There is no arguing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaUrchins Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Troll_Logic said: Nope. If you would like to accuse DE of ruining your mission you better provide some evidence, poor grammar is an invalid argument. It's really a generic thread saying "DE I messed up and I demand you fix it". Edited January 31, 2017 by SeaUrchins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll_Logic Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, SeaUrchins said: If you would like to accuse DE of ruining your mission you better provide some evidence, poor grammar is an invalid argument. Stop doing the knee jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, Troll_Logic said: Sure, that would have been better, but both of you are still missing the point. Putting the kuva siphon AFTER the goal in any mission is stupid and poor programming. There may be some ways a team could adapt to some of the scenarios, but it's stupid and no good reason for it. There is no arguing that. Devil's Advocate here. Since the mission type requires us to get two (2) coolant cells before gaining access to the reactor, it would seem that using the coolant is the intended way to go. :D Just giving something for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaUrchins Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Troll_Logic said: knee jerk Your thread is an epitome of it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks013 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 48 minutes ago, Marine027 said: Here is an idea, not do fire sabotage then, you do knwo you can also do ice or magnetic sabotage without triggering a timer that way like fire does. Not all sabotage are fire/magnetic/ice he may be talking about the one in the desert or the corpus one with a simple reactor to shoot at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll_Logic Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, SeaUrchins said: Your thread is an epitome of it though. Can't help yourself, huh? Buh bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, trunks013 said: Not all sabotage are fire/magnetic/ice he may be talking about the one in the desert or the corpus one with a simple reactor to shoot at. Those don't have a timer after you take out the reactor. At least not one I remember. Edited January 31, 2017 by DatDarkOne edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks013 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, Troll_Logic said: Sure, that would have been better, but both of you are still missing the point. Putting the kuva siphon AFTER the goal in any mission is stupid and poor programming. There may be some ways a team could adapt to some of the scenarios, but it's stupid and no good reason for it. There is no arguing that. Its not poor programming sorry but doing the reverse would be coding aberation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks013 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, DatDarkOne said: Those don't have a timer after you take out the reactor. Yep the one in the desert have one ^.^ at least on relics i got caught with the timer same for sealabs Edited January 31, 2017 by trunks013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll_Logic Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just now, trunks013 said: Its not poor programming sorry but doing the reverse would be coding aberation. How would putting the kuva siphon before the reactor be a "coding aberration?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawbeard Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 "DE, stop making my wrong choices have consequences!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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