[DE]Taylor Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) EDIT: As you know February 15 is the plan for this for PC - but based on the heat here we're honestly scrambling a bit to figure out a way to have our cake and eat it too. We'll have a detailed post to follow - we haven't gone anywhere, just a heads up! ================== Hey Tenno! You might have heard that TennoGen Round 7 will be released simultaneously on all platforms in the near future. Well, mark your calendars because 12 new TennoGen items will hopefully be coming to PC, PS4, and Xbox One on February 15th! A huge thank you to the creators for helping us achieve this feat! This update will bring another change: all TennoGen skins will use the normal Warframe model, meaning Prime Parts will no longer poke through. Please know that our team worked hard to find a solution for those who like the Prime models, but no viable option was found. We appreciate all the discussion that surrounded this topic, and hope you can all understand how difficult it was to come to this decision. Our creators do not approach any designs with Prime details in mind, as we set out to build all TennoGen content from the normal Warframes. Ideally, the TennoGen project would have started without ever having Prime pieces added to TennoGen skins, for the sake of creators. They have never had access to such parts and it has been an unexpected challenge for them to work around them. Having to imagine how Primes alter their design is not easy and this change will ensure that their creations look amazing no matter what. Thank you for your understanding and your patience in getting this matter resolved! Best, [DE]Taylor Edited February 8, 2017 by [DE]Taylor added edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armedpoop Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) This is great news and all, but I cant lie, Im going to miss my Volt Prime Graxx :/ It will look better for most of the skins though so no real complaints here. (looking at you saryn prime) Edited February 8, 2017 by armedpoop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcl_Blue Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, [DE]Taylor said: Please know that our team worked hard to find a solution for those who like the Prime models, but no viable option was found. With all due respect, how was a toggle "not viable"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner_Lindberg Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mcl_BlueMadness said: With all due respect, how was a toggle "not viable"? darn someone beat me to it but seriously though toggle to keep takes very little work most of the time ( my source for saying this is 3 years as a game dev my self) it would be like a week or so of minimal work if that,unless the engine they use wont allowed it and would have it conflict with the new model :/ Edited February 8, 2017 by MrFoxAos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrcross Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Thank you I have been waiting for this. 2 minutes ago, Mcl_BlueMadness said: With all due respect, how was a toggle "not viable"? probably because it was an overly complicated programming task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawGritz Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 So am I understanding I wont be able to use Graxx on Volt Prime now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcl_Blue Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Just now, RawGritz said: So am I understanding I wont be able to use Graxx on Volt Prime now? You will. You just won't have the extra Prime bits on top of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawGritz Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Awww thx. No prob there really at least in Volt P's case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dioxety Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) I am no longer going to be buying tennogen anymore. Your literally going to change the CURRENT Skins out of nowhere and not give any compensation? Come on DE this is completely unprofessional, and not even providing a toggle for those who Bought skins that look good with the prime bits. Edited February 8, 2017 by Dioxety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mcl_BlueMadness said: With all due respect, how was a toggle "not viable"? 10 minutes ago, Vrcross said: Thank you I have been waiting for this. probably because it was an overly complicated programming task. I.e. Meaning they have to do some work. Nevermind this, we've still got blatant bugs which have yet to be addressed - bugged animations on some sugatras even PA ones (unless it's been fixed) and syandanas, again, a PA syandana the Citadella one. Has been bugged since release, numerous threads, no fixes. So they can't address these issues which are likely minor in comparison to a toggle, so no hope in terms of a toggle which would require lengthier work. Edited February 8, 2017 by Naith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Regiampiero Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 As long as I can use any tenno gen item on the prime version I'm fine. I'm a old frame deleter type of guy and wouldn't want to rebuild old stuff to enjoy new looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemza Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, [DE]Taylor said: This update will bring another change: all TennoGen skins will use the normal Warframe model, meaning Prime Parts will no longer poke through. Please know that our team worked hard to find a solution for those who like the Prime models, ... You guys just had to add a "model" (normal body / prime body) option for prime warframes which we equip the skins on but well ... So disapointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myscho Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dioxety said: I am no longer going to be buying tennogen anymore. Your literally going to change the Skins out of nowhere and not give any compensation? Come on DE this is completely unprofessional, and not even providing a toggle for those who Bought skins that look good with the prime bits. Skin will remain the same, only prime warframe use non-prime model in order gold parts not collide with tennogen skin Adding prime models into Tennogen would solve a lot problems Edited February 8, 2017 by Myscho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Why is Equinox not available for Tennogen content creation when others are, and is there any plan anytime soon to make her available for such? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrudShuzKong Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Easiest way out: Make Prime versions of all tennogen skins (or let the original creators make them) and release them seperately, giving them to people who already bought tennogen before this change for free. Nobody will be hurt, DE will make money, content creators will make money and most importantly no programming required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)joshw1400 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Hooray for consoles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Taylor Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tesseract7777 said: Why is Equinox not available for Tennogen content creation when others are, and is there any plan anytime soon to make her available for such? Yes, @[DE]Syncrasis is working on getting her model ready! She's a little tricky since she has multiple forms. No ETA yet, though. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cradicias Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tesseract7777 said: Why is Equinox not available for Tennogen content creation when others are, and is there any plan anytime soon to make her available for such? I imagine it's because she's 3 warframes in one. Would need 3 different models. Edit: DOH! You beat me Taylor! Edited February 8, 2017 by Cradicias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Just now, [DE]Taylor said: Yes, @[DE]Syncrasis is working on getting her model ready! She's a little tricky since she has multiple forms. No ETA yet, though. :) I am glad to know she is at least in progress -- I can imagine it can be tricky with so many different aspects of Equinox to take into account. Thanks very much for your answer! : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talevon Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Massively disappointed that you couldn't find a viable solution. I do like the prime parts on my Tennogen skins. That being said, your new viable solution is below: 5 minutes ago, CrudShuzKong said: Easiest way out: Make Prime versions of all tennogen skins (or let the original creators make them) and release them seperately, giving them to people who already bought tennogen before this change for free. Nobody will be hurt, DE will make money, content creators will make money and most importantly no programming required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skulldozer115 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) No toggle? Darn. I was really looking forward to that new vauban skin on his prime. Edit: I guess ill still buy it, won't be the same though. ;v Edited February 8, 2017 by Skulldozer115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeithanDiniem Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 30 minutes ago, Mcl_BlueMadness said: With all due respect, how was a toggle "not viable"? The game code is not set up to handle model swaps through a toggle and would require a large restructuring of how equipment is handled on the player. This was explained in quite some detail on one of their workshops about this very issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latiac Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Is it possible to use normal skins on primes? If this is possible I don't see why we can't do so if we own the original warframe too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgana_Arcana Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 NONONO I specifically liked that prime parts still showed through, while allowing you to customize the very plain textures often found on some of the older primes. Just look at nova - her neck and metal parts are very distinctive, but her textures are flat and boring. This is a deal breaker. On that note, can you introduce a refund for tennogen skins? I won't be using mine anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, NeithanDiniem said: The game code is not set up to handle model swaps through a toggle and would require a large restructuring of how equipment is handled on the player. This was explained in quite some detail on one of their workshops about this very issue. Well they're already restructuring stuff in regards to separately coloured pieces of equipment. Might as well throw this in there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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