(PSN)Akuma_Asura_ Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) It's honestly a really bad weapon . It has bad damage, bad status, bad crit, bad reach, and no special passive ability . The only thing that it has going for it is it's multi strikes and even that + a shattering impact mod doesn't do much against high level enemies . So it's pretty bad in all aspects.. so let's talk buffs First off let's just buff the damage right away because 36 damage on a prime weapon is straight horrible . Dual kamas prime has almost twice that plus good crit and okay status (a slightly longer reach to) So i would increase its base damage but also give it the passive ability that it does twice the amount of damage when hitting the back of an enemy. Matter of fact do this to all dual daggers and don't make it a mod -.- I really don't know why it has a magazine of 6 but maybe this could be incorporated, so that you have 6 daggers to throw a mission ? And each thrown dagger does 100 finisher damage before mods . lastly I wouldn't buff the crit or the status because I think we should let it keep its soul as a weapon that doesn't rely on neither kind of like tiberon. Makes it special in a way , but anyway thank you for listening to my rambling. This is my feedback on the weapon. Edited March 1, 2017 by (PS4)Akuma_Asura_ Grammar . There's probably more mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Magician_NG Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 High on style, low on stats. They're an old favorite of mine, I love that twirl animation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrah Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 that is my first prime wepon... i farmed almost entire day where blades are been very rare drop from t3def... they need really some love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkav42 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 This is defiantly a case of high form low function. I would love to see these get buffed up to be a competitive choice. I would also like to see Dual Daggers be able to use Covert Lethality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Senor Twix Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 36 minutes ago, (PS4)Akuma_Asura_ said: It's honestly a really bad weapon . It has bad damage, bad status, bad crit, bad reach, and no special passive ability . The only thing that it has going for it is it's multi strikes and even that + a shattering impact mod doesn't do much against high level enemies . So it's pretty bad in all aspects.. so let's talk buffs First off let's just buff the damage right away because 36 damage on a prime weapon is straight horrible . Dual kamas prime has almost twice that plus good crit and okay status (a slightly longer reach to) So i would increase its base damage but also give it the passive ability that it does twice the amount of damage when hitting the back of an enemy. Matter of fact do this to all dual daggers and don't make it a mod -.- I really don't know why it has a magazine of 6 but maybe this could be incorporated, so that you have 6 daggers to throw a mission ? And each thrown dagger does 100 finisher damage before mods . lastly I wouldn't buff the crit or the status because I think we should let it keep its soul as a weapon that doesn't rely on neither kind of like tiberon. Makes it special in a way , but anyway thank you for listening to my rambling. This is my feedback on the weapon. I agree, it needs a buff. Until then, like a lot of daggers and weapons like the Fang, it is simply mastery fodder. I didn't really enjoy the Fang personally when leveling it up. Not my type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aenris Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Dual daggers in general needs tweaks to work better. What i'm hoping for is passives for each melee category so daggers will get something that makes them usable. (and the idea of making them throwing sounds nice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Akuma_Asura_ Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Arandabido said: Dual daggers in general needs tweaks to work better. What i'm hoping for is passives for each melee category so daggers will get something that makes them usable. (and the idea of making them throwing sounds nice) lol I'm still wondering why it has a magazine of 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiiken Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I think all the dual daggers need a buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 make primes great again :D ..ok joking aside i feel plenty of the past primes need a touch up or at least some new alt mode of attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levenna Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, (Xbox One)EternalDrk Mako said: make primes great again :D ..ok joking aside i feel plenty of the past primes need a touch up or at least some new alt mode of attack *stares longingly at Dakra Prime* (or at least the unbuilt set i have.. i havnt had the patience for 15 orokin cells yet, even so, power creep has destroyed that thing.) Edited March 1, 2017 by Wolfsfang202 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levenna Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 38 minutes ago, ashrah said: that is my first prime wepon... i farmed almost entire day where blades are been very rare drop from t3def... they need really some love same here, i just bought it tho XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Wolfsfang202 said: *stares longingly at Dakra Prime* (or at least the unbuilt set i have.. i havnt had the patience for 15 orokin cells yet, even so, power creep has destroyed that thing.) but dakra p is a monster... , use it with dervish to get the 300% buff and oh boy can you shred things xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levenna Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, (Xbox One)EternalDrk Mako said: but dakra p is a monster... , use it with dervish to get the 300% buff and oh boy can you shred things xD OOor i can use the same stance on broken war for better results... (ignoring the fact i main nikana prime.. but still) Edited March 1, 2017 by Wolfsfang202 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Just now, Wolfsfang202 said: OOor i can use the same stance on broken war for better results... actually the variable range of damage if built right is only slightly better i cloned my build on both and damage factor to a point is roughly equivalent in combat so say 90 -100 range in terms of total damage 90 =dakra p , war = 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levenna Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Just now, (Xbox One)EternalDrk Mako said: actually the variable range of damage if built right is only slightly better i cloned my build on both and damage factor to a point is roughly equivalent in combat so say 90 -100 range in terms of total damage 90 =dakra p , war = 100 still a bigger number though isn't it, not to mention the broken war is generally speaking a ton easier to get with dakra p residing in the vault currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Just now, Wolfsfang202 said: still a bigger number though isn't it, not to mention the broken war is generally speaking a ton easier to get with dakra p residing in the vault currently. yeah , but dat dakra p is so hawt xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levenna Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Just now, (Xbox One)EternalDrk Mako said: yeah , but dat dakra p is so hawt xD can't argue with that'un. it looks a ton bettar than Broken War. I personally prefer the looks of mah nikana p tho :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, Wolfsfang202 said: can't argue with that'un. it looks a ton bettar than Broken War. I personally prefer the looks of mah nikana p tho :P oh i agree with you there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 They just need to be as fast as melee 1.0 days. Speed fixes everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levenna Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) 52 minutes ago, fatpig84 said: They just need to be as fast as melee 1.0 days. Speed fixes everything. *looks directly at twin grakatas* hmm. *looks towards azima* uh huh. *glances at twin vipers* riight... Edited March 1, 2017 by Wolfsfang202 reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXDeadsinxX Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Fang prime definitely needs a buff for sure, it's so weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Change the topic title, this thread should be more along the lines of: Please, make a Prime weapons pass. Basically those weapons that are powerful can stay as they are. Those weapons that underperform (Fangs, Glaive, I know I'm missing something here) need to go up. And yes, have all of my yes OP. Edited March 2, 2017 by NightmareT12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazrethim Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 On a positive note, they one of the most deadly weapons in the Conclave :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lei-Lei_23 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Dual Daggers' quick melee combo racks up so many hits that even 5% crit chance make them into crit-viable weapons. Sure, give them a buff. In fact, give me a Dual Daggers stance that keeps the quick melee combo as well please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yles9056 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) I can't believe I put a catalyst on Fang Prime when I first got it simply because it looks cool. Aside from stats buff, I would suggest giving all dual daggers a unique passive that greatly increases the attack speed of all finisher attack(including ground finisher). You will be able to perform finisher attack in quick succession if there are multiple enemies open to finisher attack. Edited March 3, 2017 by yles9056 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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