Rakosta_Kai Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I genuinely detest this mode... All mobs park right under the extractor and the extractor parks itself next to walls and columns giving nary a bit of room to actually intercept the Kuva itself from a number of the sides. Maybe it's just my luck that sucks... Grineer ships aren't too terrible (typically), Corpus and Infested are a nightmare though for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)chubbslawson Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I thought that it sucked to roll my card over eight times farming for the kuva then they nerfed my card. What a waste of time. They should have just reset my card and give me back my Kuva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xardis Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The most stupid part of Kuva is that you can only farm it outside a Fortress that gathers it. Why cant I break in and steel it? Ow wait, we already break in, but the Kuva is not there. Almost as if its in another castle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrmius_Prime Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, Xardis said: The most stupid part of Kuva is that you can only farm it outside a Fortress that gathers it. Why cant I break in and steel it? Ow wait, we already break in, but the Kuva is not there. Almost as if its in another castle. Makes one question if they ever actually gathered any apart from the droplet the Queens' scepter had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BemoGuinness Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I think it should just be able to get it from the Fortress tile set in smaller more consistant amounts with the option to get it in higher amounts from kuva floods in an alert type system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husla Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Its a boring game mode but its the same with anything in warframe.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrah Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 kuva farm is chore...5k kuva per run would be ok but now.. i dont even think to farm it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husla Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, BemoGuinness said: I think it should just be able to get it from the Fortress tile set in smaller more consistant amounts with the option to get it in higher amounts from kuva floods in an alert type system. that's worse, why would you put into alerts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BemoGuinness Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I said an alert type system. Please try to read a bit before complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 26 minutes ago, Xardis said: The most stupid part of Kuva is that you can only farm it outside a Fortress that gathers it. Why cant I break in and steel it? Ow wait, we already break in, but the Kuva is not there. Almost as if its in another castle. Would make sense... A Kuva Fortress Hijack/Mobile Defense mission for a few thousand Kuva per player would be a nifty mode imo. Do it up like a multi node CTF with the enemies trying to recapture it at each point where you had to Steal it Protect/Defend it via transport to Extraction to keep it from being re-taken or destroyed Protect/Defend it at Extraction point until timer elapses. Sounds like alot more fun than trying to intercept Kuva as it magically appears from a wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naftal Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 38 minutes ago, Xardis said: The most stupid part of Kuva is that you can only farm it outside a Fortress that gathers it. Why cant I break in and steel it? Ow wait, we already break in, but the Kuva is not there. Almost as if its in another castle. The most stupid part is forced teeno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, BemoGuinness said: I think it should just be able to get it from the Fortress tile set in smaller more consistant amounts with the option to get it in higher amounts from kuva floods in an alert type system. You mean like the Formorian Alerts were, just alot more often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)x_RaiLight_x Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Kuva Farming is not a good way to attract players into the Riven Mod's world. The concept of the idea behind rivens is flawed and badly implemented and there's a lot of wasted potential regarding this issue. There should be a way to farm Kuva inside the Kuva Fortress. Honestly, since I completed TWW I haven't gone there besides sorties missions that force me to play there. Perhaps allowing players to farm Kuva there in greater ways and quantity may cause players to visit this tileset more frequently. The current rewards are kind of atrocious. It's already weird enough to play the same repetitive minigame to get almost nothing. It almost feels like a punishment, a job or work that we have to get done in order to get horribly rewarded for our effort. For realsies, if you don't have boosters you'll have to successfully complete 6 of these missions in order to reroll a riven after the 10th time. This is why players consider it a waste of time, so I suggest to greatly increase the Kuva reward we get per mission. You might think I'm crazy but if the current rewards get doubled I would say that it would be "fair enough", considering the time we have to waste playing these missions. It's not fun to play. Okay, maybe I went hard in there and there might be some group of elitist players that looove to do this on a daily basis, but I can't help but feel that this is ultra boring and tedious to do. Sure, the first 10 times I play it it's "fun", "entertaining" and perhaps even exciting(?). However, when pass that point you start to feel tired about it. Pretty much like everything in this life, if you abuse of something too much you might get burned out and eventually bored of that thing, but Kuva is a core mechanic regarding the Riven mods and I don't think it should be this repetitive to play such a mission. Even the Kuva floods are the same missions but with tougher enemies... and that's it. At times it is disturbingly glitchy. I know, I know, these are some mistakes that are not intended to be there and we can not directly "blame" DE for it but seriously, there are some occasions that makes me feel like I'm totally wasting my time playing such a minigame. For example, the Kuva cloud is ultra unforgiving; it gets stuck, invisible, camouflaged with the enviroment (specially on Eris), the noise it makes may persist during the entire mission and if you're unlucky you'll get a combination of everything stated above. We can only hope for DE to fix it whenever they can, but it's a strong drawback nonetheless. Even if I personally think #RivensAreAMistake I would at least want the farm and the grind of such an interesting concept to be perfectly implemented. Plus since the update we've seen a lot of even more interesting ideas that might Rivens and Kuva Farming fun to play, so it might be worth to go back and check said suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowiespoon Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 For me, the problem is that the area around kuva siphons are bullet hells with all kinds of specials dropping on your head. The operator has a measly 100 health, and other than 3 or so dashes, no way of getting out of the line of fire. Whilst your operator is getting pounded left and right, they expect you to be able to spot the kuva cloud, and grab it. This seems like the exact opposite kind of situation that you would want to place the operator in, design-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)LoneRyder3926 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I was burned out after only a handful of times...I only use a couple of rivens and got good enough rolls and there hasn't been any other reason for me to ever do them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobistober Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I ran the grind to build Orvius and enough kuva to reroll the riven I got from TWW a few times, but that's it. Game mode it too clunky to be fun and the layers of RNG around rivens does not motivate me to obtain more, so I don't play the missions anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Graysmog Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The only thing I hate about them is how odd the pathing on the Kuva is. Half the time it works as intended, yet at random it'll be incredibly fast and hard to track in incredibly tiny rooms. The Infested maps are my biggest problem honestly, as the dark reds make it a lot harder to find the Kuva, especially when everything is so cramped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I played a handfull of kuva-missions and I found them equally confusing and hard to do because of the combination of looking, killing, avoiding getting killed by the elites swarming you, my operator trying to blast the fatsuit guys, and so on. Rivens never was attractive to me in the first place to be honest. But the setup of these missions only made me ignore them completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan_Rid Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) Kuva farming is very boring and repetitive process, with no guaranteed progression. At the very least Siphon should give more Kuva the more Kuva clouds it gathered, to introduce some risk/reward element to it. edit: alternatively there should be a way to speed the process up, like destroying braids by gunfire forcing Kuva clouds to appear immediatly. Edited March 30, 2017 by Ivan_Rid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Padre_Akais said: I genuinely detest this mode... All mobs park right under the extractor and the extractor parks itself next to walls and columns giving nary a bit of room to actually intercept the Kuva itself from a number of the sides. Maybe it's just my luck that sucks... Grineer ships aren't too terrible (typically), Corpus and Infested are a nightmare though for me. totally agree, though I actually find Corpus Tilesets easier since they have bigger rooms, and thus you get way more time to find the Kuva. in Grineer Tilesets though, the stuff spawns literally 2ft away from the machine, it's really stupid. DE should probably revisit the rooms they allow for Kuva siphons and take some of the smaller ones out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 hours ago, (PS4)robotwars7 said: totally agree, though I actually find Corpus Tilesets easier since they have bigger rooms, and thus you get way more time to find the Kuva. in Grineer Tilesets though, the stuff spawns literally 2ft away from the machine, it's really stupid. DE should probably revisit the rooms they allow for Kuva siphons and take some of the smaller ones out. Agree on the need of a placement revisit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)watt4hem Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 > can't see sht > glitchy clouds > lil brat screaming constantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceheart125 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 They need to put 400 kuva rewards in endless rotation, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--RV--arm4geddon-117 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, Iceheart125 said: They need to put 400 kuva rewards in endless rotation, I think. YES! Kuva farming is a chore, boring ,on top of that we have a bit_ch RNG when rolling rivens, like when you find 3 amazing stats and the 4th is a -199% dmg you wanna punch a wall .. More Kuva, less S#&$ RNG stats ( at least for those so called Strong dispositions aka 4/5 full highlighted dots in the weapons stats ) strong or faint, -dmg -multishot cr_ap stats in the riven systems should just go and never come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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