TheAlfax Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I started calling it the Grineer Super Soaker on the wiki page. This shotgun looks like a double-barreled shotgun, yet has the size of a braton for some reason. Turning it into an automatic peashooter is as logical as making a scythe that launches unicorns with each swing. Come on DE. Just turn it into a double barreled shotgun with HUGE damage. 2 shells that deal insane damage each, with good fire rate and a decent reload speed. That would save this shotgun from the hell it is in. I was shown a double barreled shotgun, and I heard Rebecca say ''click click boom''. Why would you turn it into a crappy Boar? Hell, the Boar already lacks punch when compared to the Strun and Hek (its not really designed to be a nuke launcher, either, but rather a DPS monster). This is a Grineer Super Soaker. The kind that grineer soldiers buy for their kids on christmas so they can shoot water at each other, or nerf darts, whatever fits. Im sticking with water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG3000 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Scythe that launches unicorns! DO IT DE! But yeah, a double-barreled shotty would be nice to have indeed. Maybe finallly have a gun consume two bullets at once, even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) From what I can see, the grineer have two categories of weapons, low damage in exchange for high fire rate and clip (grakata) or high damage and fire rate with low clip (dual vipers). Presently, it seems to fall into the former (like the grakata of shotguns) except that its fire rate is actually slower than the boar, making it a slower, weaker, boar with only a better clip size. The way I see it, they can go two ways with this: either go with the more popular suggestion of making it a one shot, mega powerful shotgun (preferably one that fires solid slugs) OR raise the base damage to say 60-65 and make it a "fires as fast as you pull the trigger" type gun, so it's still a shotgun equivalent of the Grakata, and can still deliver very high DPS despite being weaker than the boar. Honestly, 40 damage? the Latron does 40 damage, and there's no pellet spread on that. Edited July 13, 2013 by Paradoxbomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kappatalist Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 This is a Grineer Super Soaker. Finally, a weapon for the Grineer Ballet Dancers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCypherThis13 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Scythe that launches unicorns! DO IT DE! But yeah, a double-barreled shotty would be nice to have indeed. Maybe finallly have a gun consume two bullets at once, even? Or a slight damage buff(5-10 points) and every two shots consumes one round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG3000 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Or a slight damage buff(5-10 points) and every two shots consumes one round? That could work, too (and would be very curious... damn it), but a big-&#! one-shot wonder feels a bit better in your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlfax Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 That could work, too (and would be very curious... damn it), but a big-&#! one-shot wonder feels a bit better in your hands. This. I just want to hear a huge blast with every shot, so I FEEL like I'm shooting a big-&#! shotgun. My idea? 2 really powerful blasts per magazine. Maybe make both barrels shoot out pellets with every shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudest Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 How... Eloquent. I too wanted something more traditional, but it does have an ammo drum on it.A buff of some kind might be in order, but I'd hardly call for a complete redesign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCypherThis13 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) That could work, too (and would be very curious... damn it), but a big-&#! one-shot wonder feels a bit better in your hands. In terms of balancing, even though the damage is still low, it would improve the ammo efficiency enough to make it worth it. Agreed on the one shot wonder thing. My double barrel is an absolute beast(In real life). I would go as far as to say, leave the size alone(Mag looks ridiculous with a Gorgon). The accuracy and range should stay the same as well. Just give it a damage buff and two shots per round expended. The rest is negotiable. EDIT: typographical error Edited July 13, 2013 by DCypherThis13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theangelbelow88 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Just increase its crit damage to 2.0 and crit chance to 15% - 20% and there, this weapon will be like its rifle counterpart, the Grakata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG3000 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Just increase its crit damage to 2.0 and crit chance to 15% - 20% and there, this weapon will be like its rifle counterpart, the Grakata. Except on shotgun ammo pool. Duh. In terms of balancing, even though the damage is still low, it would improve the ammo efficiency enough to make it worth it. Agreed on the one shot wonder thing. My double barrel is an absolute beast(In real life). I would go as far as to say, leave the size alone(Mag looks ridiculous with a Gorgon). The accuracy and range should stay the same as well. Just give it a damage buff and two shots per round expended. The rest is negotiable. EDIT: typographical error Yeah, that would be very curious, in terms that you'd have an ability to use the ammo more wisely against weak mobs, and concentrate on the tougher mobs, however annoying it would become later in the game. Only reason for it not to be one-shot mag is that it's model has a drum on it, and it's very easy to see that drum to be the mag. So, it would benefit from being sort of hek-oh-steroids, with slow rate of fire, and four loads in the drum (two shells for each). And, maybe, half-damage mechanic for the extra shells the mods will invariantly bring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Scythe that launches unicorns! DO IT DE! But yeah, a double-barreled shotty would be nice to have indeed. Maybe finallly have a gun consume two bullets at once, even? exactly what i think Sobek could be to make it good. as it is now it's ooookay. it's the only shotgun i like, both in design, and function. but it's 4 pellets per shot is ridiculous and i use up tons of ammo not really killing anything. it's not a Hek, that's for sure. if we increased the pellets per shot to say, 12, but it consumed two shells per shot (being double barrel), it would be a very unique shotgun. in it's current state, it's more novelty than use. but i love that this shotgun has decent accuracy at medium range, and a very stable rate of fire. it also looks really cool, i think. on a side note, based on the stats of this shotgun, i expected this to have good crit chance. but after sticking crit chance on it, i was still almost never critting. still needs more pellets - 4 pellets is pathetic for a shotgun. Edited July 14, 2013 by taiiat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlfax Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) exactly what i think Sobek could be to make it good. as it is now it's ooookay. it's the only shotgun i like, both in design, and function. but it's 4 pellets per shot is ridiculous and i use up tons of ammo not really killing anything. it's not a Hek, that's for sure. if we increased the pellets per shot to say, 12, but it consumed two shells per shot (being double barrel), it would be a very unique shotgun. in it's current state, it's more novelty than use. but i love that this shotgun has decent accuracy at medium range, and a very stable rate of fire. it also looks really cool, i think. on a side note, based on the stats of this shotgun, i expected this to have good crit chance. but after sticking crit chance on it, i was still almost never critting. still needs more pellets - 4 pellets is pathetic for a shotgun. As things stand right now, the Sobek is like the Cronus: A fantastic trophy weapon. Only the Cronus can actually kill stuff instead of tickling it. Speaking of tickling, this reminds me about a certain weapon in Halo Reach which used to completely blow at launch. The Focus Rifle or ''Tickle Beam''. Good times. Good times. Edited July 14, 2013 by TheAlfax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackpunch Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 moar dakka pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlfax Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 moar dakka pls Error 404 Dakka not found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlfax Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 Bumpity bump bump, bump bumpo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exillian Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I started calling it the Grineer Super Soaker on the wiki page. This shotgun looks like a double-barreled shotgun, yet has the size of a braton for some reason. Turning it into an automatic peashooter is as logical as making a scythe that launches unicorns with each swing. Come on DE. Just turn it into a double barreled shotgun with HUGE damage. 2 shells that deal insane damage each, with good fire rate and a decent reload speed. That would save this shotgun from the hell it is in. I was shown a double barreled shotgun, and I heard Rebecca say ''click click boom''. Why would you turn it into a crappy Boar? Hell, the Boar already lacks punch when compared to the Strun and Hek (its not really designed to be a nuke launcher, either, but rather a DPS monster). This is a Grineer Super Soaker. The kind that grineer soldiers buy for their kids on christmas so they can shoot water at each other, or nerf darts, whatever fits. Im sticking with water. We have such shotgun , its huge and has FOUR barrels and does 140 dmg even more with mods.Honestly you guys are just upset over the Sobek because its a iconic double barrel not doing insane dmg and it shoots nerf darts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCypherThis13 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Bumpity bump bump, bump bumpo. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlfax Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) We have such shotgun , its huge and has FOUR barrels and does 140 dmg even more with mods.Honestly you guys are just upset over the Sobek because its a iconic double barrel not doing insane dmg and it shoots nerf darts. Here, have some bloody stats Hek = 148.61 DPS Strun = 119.45 DPS Boar = 171.43 DPS Sobek = exactly 80 DPS I think we have the right to complain. Not only because the design doesn't fit its purpose, but because it's completely bloody useless. Edited July 14, 2013 by TheAlfax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlfax Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 Also, the model is way too tiny, as stated before. A shotgun like this shouldn't be the size of the braton. It's supposed to be a double barreled shotgun, and those ain't small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NalkorRN Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I started calling it the Grineer Super Soaker on the wiki page. This shotgun looks like a double-barreled shotgun, yet has the size of a braton for some reason. Turning it into an automatic peashooter is as logical as making a scythe that launches unicorns with each swing. Come on DE. Just turn it into a double barreled shotgun with HUGE damage. 2 shells that deal insane damage each, with good fire rate and a decent reload speed. That would save this shotgun from the hell it is in. I was shown a double barreled shotgun, and I heard Rebecca say ''click click boom''. Why would you turn it into a crappy Boar? Hell, the Boar already lacks punch when compared to the Strun and Hek (its not really designed to be a nuke launcher, either, but rather a DPS monster). This is a Grineer Super Soaker. The kind that grineer soldiers buy for their kids on christmas so they can shoot water at each other, or nerf darts, whatever fits. Im sticking with water. It's fully automatic so the Boar users can point at the Sobek and laugh at how much it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleverbird Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I was expecting a single shot, high damage shotgun... You know, something that fires two shells at the same time and then requires a reload... I certainly wasnt expecting this thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG3000 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I was expecting a single shot, high damage shotgun... You know, something that fires two shells at the same time and then requires a reload... I certainly wasnt expecting this thing You and me both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AscendantWyvern Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 You and me both. And me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kielix7 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 And me... AND MY AXE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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