(PSN)Romulus93 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) I'd like DE to make an official site with information akin to that of the wiki. The fan made wiki is just that; made by fans and subject to incorrect information. Warframe is a by the numbers game. The values are important and the best way to play is with transparency and accuracy of how the game, it's systems, and the myriad weapons at our arsenal, all work. Edited April 18, 2017 by (PS4)Romulus93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzjdriel Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The Wiki is nearly always correct, and if you find that something isn't you can change it yourself. Wikia is a free-to-join website, after all. That being said, is there anything in particular you're finding isn't correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, (PS4)Romulus93 said: The values are important and the best way to play is with transparency and accuracy of how the game, it's systems, and the myriad weapons at our arsenal, all work. The devs have shown many times that no, they don't want to actually let you see the drop tables. There's a reason why V_G puts his datamined information on reddit where the devs can't ban him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 you might be disappointed... an Official Wiki would have maybe 1/10 of the information the current one has. from the enormous amount of information Digital Extremes won't tell Players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Romulus93 Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, TARINunit9 said: The devs have shown many times that no, they don't want to actually let you see the drop tables. There's a reason why V_G puts his datamined information on reddit where the devs can't ban him I'm only interested in the weapons, abilities, and such not the drop chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MokutoBunshi Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Just now, (PS4)Romulus93 said: I'm only interested in the weapons, abilities, and such not the drop chances. Those are usually correct unless the devs them selves do something wrong (Like how the math pre- limbo rework on the rift surge was wrong due to a bug). ]\'[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MokutoBunshi Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 That being said, an OFFICIAL wiki would be nice. Not sure if they could keep the bugs out of it though :P ]\'[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Romulus93 Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) Mag Prime has 150 base power at level 30. With Primed Flow, it increase max energy by 275%. 275% x 150 gives me 412.5 energy but in game my Mag Prime has 425 energy. Somewhere along the equation are invisible factors I don't understand. Edited April 18, 2017 by (PS4)Romulus93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, (PS4)Romulus93 said: Mag Prime has 150 base power at level 30. With Primed Flow, it increase max energy by 275%. 275% x 150 gives me 412.5 energy but in game my Mag Prime has 425 energy. Somewhere along the equation are invisible factors I don't understand. 275 PLUS 150 = 425 Pretty straightforward to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Romulus93 Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 minute ago, TARINunit9 said: 275 PLUS 150 = 425 Pretty straightforward to me That is so not how percentages work. The mod should read differently then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandMAsterDan Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 uh, to elaborate on the above, from the Flow wiki page Quote The energy increase is applied to the base (rank 0) energy reserve of a Warframe before energy gains from level ups are applied. Energytotal = Energymax + (Energybase × Flow Multiplier) For Mag Prime Your energy max = 150 (rank 30) Your energy base = 100 (rank 0) Flow multiplier = 2.75 for primed flow Total = (150) + [(100) * 2.75) = 150 + 275 = 425 Is it unintuitive? Yeah, you'd expect the 2.75 to multiply your max energy 150, but that's a game clarity issue, the wiki's got it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xekrin Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 hour ago, (PS4)Romulus93 said: I'd like DE to make an official site with information akin to that of the wiki. Or better yet, information about the game should be IN THE GAME. I've been pushing for about a year now that we need less dependancy on wiki, be it fan made or something 'official'. Especially values, stats, and numbers for weapons, frames and abilities. Those should be in the game itself, not something we have to minimize the game and study up on just to play the game. What's the range of your favorite melee? Dunno, check the wiki. What's the flight speed of cernos versus cernos prime versus mutalist cernos? Who friggin knows? Check the wiki. Does Mutalist Cernos cloud damage enemies at a rate of every second? every half second? Whats the radius of the cloud? Hmmm, check the wiki. Neat, Firewalker mod increases my bullet jump damage by 275%! Wait, bullet jump does damage? What's the base value?! What are the unique differences when changing Chroma's energy colors? I guess I have to print out a few wiki pages and make a little booklet or simply memorize everything, because it sure as heck isn't found in the game anywhere! Values like these should be found in the arsenal, not some corner of the internet that the game doesn't even bother directing you to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 11 hours ago, (PS4)Romulus93 said: That is so not how percentages work. The mod should read differently then. Actually it turns out I was wrong about the calculations in the first place, thanks to @GrandMAsterDan for correcting me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure.Fang Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I'd love an official wiki for one reason: Wikia, the de facto standard for fan wikis, has become increasingly aggressive with its ad usage over the past half year, to the point that using an ad blocker is often necessary to even view a page, then they make every attempt to block such blockers with interstitial error pages claiming a server error but recommending that the user uninstalls all blocking software to fix the issue. http://wiki.guildwars2.com is a perfect example of an officially hosted but user curated wiki and is proof it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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