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(PSN)Oracle-Raven

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  • Pluto and Phobos share the exact same ressources, right down to their level of rarity.
  • No planet provides both Salvage and Polymer Bundles at the same time.
  • Europa is riddled with wrecked ships, yet there is zero Salvage to be found there.
  • There are no Orokin Cells in the Void or on Lua.
  • You can't put an extractor on the Orokin Derelict, but you can on the Kuva Fortress.
    This makes Eris the only planet where you can put an extractor to obtain Mutagen Samples.
  • You can't put an extractor on your Clan Dojo. This is unaccep
  • For new players, you need to scan 3 Cephalon Fragments on Mars to go to Phobos.
    But the game doesn't tell you anything about Cephalon Fragments or scanning.
    You don't get any insight on how to scan things, where to purchase scanners or scanning charges, what Cephalon Fragments look like, and worst of all, by that point, you probably don't even have a loot radar mod (Thief's Wit) for Cephalon Fragments to appear on your mini-map. Hell, Thief's Wit is actually a reward for completing this task. That's a huge slap in the neuroptics if you ask me.
  • There is no Kuva on the Kuva Fortress.
  • There is no volcanic / lava planet.
  • Merrow is a node that exists on Sedna. Requesting to mercilessly obliterate it from orbit as ASAP as possible. I am serious.
  • The Earth tileset remaster is going to look amazing. This is not a negative thing that needs to be changed or adressed, I just felt like highlighting the fact that [DE] is doing great work too, and that it's truly appreciated.
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3 minutes ago, (PS4)Oracle-Raven said:

You can't put an extractor on the Orokin Derelict, but you can on the Kuva Fortress.
This makes Eris the only planet where you can put an extractor to obtain Mutagen Samples.

Yeah this annoys the crap out of me. Granted you can't put an extractor in the Void, either, and it makes sense that both it and the Derelict would have the same rules, all things considered. There needs to be somewhere else you can deploy an extractor for Mutagen Samples.

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6 minutes ago, (PS4)Oracle-Raven said:

For new players, you need to scan 3 Cephalon Fragments on Mars to go to Phobos.
But the game doesn't tell you anything about Cephalon Fragments or scanning.
You don't get any insight on how to scan things, where to purchase scanners or scanning charges, what Cephalon Fragments look like, and worst of all, by that point, you probably don't even have a loot radar mod (Thief's Wit) for Cephalon Fragments to appear on your mini-map. Hell, Thief's Wit is actually a reward for completing this task. That's a huge slap in the neuroptics if you ask me.

Probably the worst thing mentioned. All points were very valid some were just not as pressing as others. 

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No offense, but I don't see why any of those points are "illogical" or broken in any way, other then maybe the new player thing, which is separate issue.

I get the idea that you want changes to help you "farm" better, which might be the exact reason why they are the way they are in the first place. You do not sound like you want the game to look or feel better, you sound like you want more resources "just because you want more resources".

I could break each point individually, but I thought they would in fact mostly be logical.

I'll give you one for example, if there was Kuva in the Kuva fortress, they would shield that fact because THEY OWN THE FORTRESS, and would have mined it instantly for Kuva, since ... they ... operate... there. Also, who the hell would be broadcasting to you "hey! more Kuva here! come raid it!", a spy working there?

... screw it, here is another. Why would there be a FULLY Vulcanic/Lava planet when such a planet would be FAR MORE hostile to mining or exploring AND there exist Terraforming technology? At the very LEAST they would cool it to such an extent as to be able to work there. There is tilesets with what looks like lava, which implies such planets were active and have been worked down a few notches.

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27 minutes ago, (PS4)Oracle-Raven said:
  • There is no Kuva on the Kuva Fortress.

That makes completely sense to me : They depleted it in the Fortress, that's why Worm is gathering it elsewhere a soon as they are near a planet.

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58 minutes ago, (PS4)Oracle-Raven said:

Merrow is a node that exists on Sedna. Requesting to mercilessly obliterate it from orbit as ASAP as possible. I am serious.

"as ASAP as possible"

As as soon as possible as possible.

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If you do not have a scanner, fragments will inform you that you must obtain one in order to scan them. This was implemented some time ago, and mentioned in the patch notes.

Resources could use some shuffling around, though. We're getting new regions of the star chart soon, so there may be an opportunity for that soon.

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"the star chart needs to be fixed"

5 hours ago, (PS4)Oracle-Raven said:
  • Pluto and Phobos share the exact same ressources, right down to their level of rarity.
  • No planet provides both Salvage and Polymer Bundles at the same time.
  • Europa is riddled with wrecked ships, yet there is zero Salvage to be found there.
  • There are no Orokin Cells in the Void or on Lua.
  • You can't put an extractor on the Orokin Derelict, but you can on the Kuva Fortress.
    This makes Eris the only planet where you can put an extractor to obtain Mutagen Samples.
  • You can't put an extractor on your Clan Dojo. This is unaccep
  • For new players, you need to scan 3 Cephalon Fragments on Mars to go to Phobos.
    But the game doesn't tell you anything about Cephalon Fragments or scanning.
    You don't get any insight on how to scan things, where to purchase scanners or scanning charges, what Cephalon Fragments look like, and worst of all, by that point, you probably don't even have a loot radar mod (Thief's Wit) for Cephalon Fragments to appear on your mini-map. Hell, Thief's Wit is actually a reward for completing this task. That's a huge slap in the neuroptics if you ask me.
  • There is no Kuva on the Kuva Fortress.
  • There is no volcanic / lava planet.
  • Merrow is a node that exists on Sedna. Requesting to mercilessly obliterate it from orbit as ASAP as possible. I am serious.
  • The Earth tileset remaster is going to look amazing. This is not a negative thing that needs to be changed or adressed, I just felt like highlighting the fact that [DE] is doing great work too, and that it's truly appreciated.

these look more like observations you made rather than things that are broken

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6 hours ago, Stonehenge said:

That makes completely sense to me : They depleted it in the Fortress, that's why Worm is gathering it elsewhere a soon as they are near a planet.

But they store it somewhere.

Even if we say that kuva shouldnt drop from enemies in the fortress it should have kuva containers somewhere. Maybe a hidden vault in every mission what triggers alarm what cannot be turned off?

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3 hours ago, Fallen_Echo said:

But they store it somewhere.

Even if we say that kuva shouldnt drop from enemies in the fortress it should have kuva containers somewhere. Maybe a hidden vault in every mission what triggers alarm what cannot be turned off?

Kuva Fortress maybe lacks some motivating ressources or mods, but i just hope DE won't listen to the annoying bunch of ' I want to find kuva in da kuva fortress ! Why would i go there if not for this ? '

Please.

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12 hours ago, Stonehenge said:

That makes completely sense to me : They depleted it in the Fortress, that's why Worm is gathering it elsewhere a soon as they are near a planet.

If they gather it from other Planets...they need to store it somewhere.

In addition, no kuva on a ship/planet why call it kuva-fortress ? Without kuva its just a "bad boyz fortress"... It makes no sense.

As we Tennos, fighting the "bad boyz"..

Why we do not get a "kuva-Raid" to plunder those kuva storages on board, to nulli theire kuva farming?

Kuva treasur-room(s) ? 

Like in void? But filled with kuva containers? Its like a unfinished point to me...

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1 hour ago, P0Pz said:

If they gather it from other Planets...they need to store it somewhere.

And what if it can't be stored in huge quantity, because too volatile or dangerous ?
 What if Worm refines or consumes, fuel it in any-unknown-i-dont-give-a-damn device/grorokin system ?

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In addition, no kuva on a ship/planet why call it kuva-fortress ? Without kuva its just a "bad boyz fortress"... It makes no sense.

Kuva is just an old word designating not only this liquid but apparently all that is directly linked to the twin queens and their private garden.

So, damn yeah, the Grineer head command Kuva Fortress CAN be a very old thing in wich there is no kuva in it anymore. Why the flying fat fly not ?

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As we Tennos, fighting the "bad boyz"..

Why we do not get a "kuva-Raid" to plunder those kuva storages on board, to nulli theire kuva farming?

Kuva treasur-room(s) ? 

Like in void? But filled with kuva containers? Its like a unfinished point to me...

That, could be a good idea for a new mission type and a new gameplay proposition. Why not. Dangerous Raid in Kuva storages in the heart of hell, okay, i'm in.

But since most of people hate farming kuva because it's only the pinacle of a ressource you have to farm more and more to roll the dice for your casino-rivens, i'm not sure to see the point.

It would have to be very difficult and chalenging (it's the Queens fortress after all), making level 100 kuva mission a walk in the park, but, people would obviously complain and cry about that also. So what's the point.

Maybe if it's a real endgame Raid for 6 to 8 players, with a lot of other things to earn besides this kuva and the proud of finishing it, it could be very cool. Just thinking of a Raid party in this giant nazi space ant-hill make me wet.

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39 minutes ago, Stonehenge said:

Kuva Fortress maybe lacks some motivating ressources or mods, but i just hope DE won't listen to the annoying bunch of ' I want to find kuva in da kuva fortress ! Why would i go there if not for this ? '

Please.

Well the other choice is mutagen mass, orokin cells, polymer bundles and finally gallium. This is a rotation makes the place worthy for everybody, but to be fair kuva is the most obvious and logical choice.

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Basically DE needs to add unique and well detailed tile sets fro each world.
This is in progress, as you mentioned before with the re-worked Earth tile set.

In truth many of the old tile sets need to be updated to be more suited for the new movement/parkour system. 

This is why I am against a new solar system when the current one has so much work left to be done.

I would simply appreciate more visually interesting tile sets like the Kuva Fortress and Lua

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