Semune Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Are you talking about real money or platinum? If it's just platinum, yes, real money, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Grimsley Clause Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Not wanted by me XD "Pay for" another Excalibur? Yeah right. Let's give him the grindiest grind, with every resource surpassing Hema levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennoPain Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Just now, Tesseract7777 said: DE never adds anything without immediately giving you a way to farm it as well, however tedious and horrible said grind may be. So I won't vote on the poll, because the issue is totally null to begin with. It would never happen. Excal prime and its exclusive weapons ? what are u talking about. prime syandanas from prime acces tennogen items lol and 10000 other things not everything is farmable in game you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TennoPain said: Excal prime and its exclusive weapons ? what are u talking about. prime syandanas from prime acces tennogen items lol and 10000 other things not everything is farmable in game you know. You are being deliberately obtuse. Excal Prime was only for the founders and that issue is long settled. The other stuff you mentioned is cosmetic only. Umbra is not cosmetic only. Umbra is not founders. Apart from those exceptions, they do NOT release stuff without giving you a way to farm them. You know this is what I meant, and what you said is common knowledge that doesn't count anyway. Name something that isn't cosmetic besides Excal Prime and his weapons and isn't farmable in game. You won't be able to, because there is no such thing. You are wrong. Edited June 27, 2017 by Tesseract7777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennoPain Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Just now, Tesseract7777 said: You are being deliberately obtuse. Excal Prime was only for the founders and that issue is long settled. The other stuff you mentioned is cosmetic only. Umbra is not cosmetic only. Umbra is not founders. Apart from those exceptions, they do NOT release stuff without giving you a way to farm them. You know this is what I meant, and what you said is common knowledge that doesn't count anyway. Name something that isn't cosmetic besides Excal Prime and his weapons and isn't farmable in game. You won't be able to, because there is no such thing. You are wrong. Ill give you time to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, TennoPain said: Ill give you time to think about it. Nope, you need to provide evidence when you make a claim. Name things with mastery besides the original founders stuff that you cannot ever get through farming/grinding/events, no matter what. You need to provide evidence, not play mysterious. And Lato and Braton Vandal certainly don't count as they never cost money, and were confirmed to be released again soon. So it's up to you to provide evidence or keep looking ridiculous and unable to back up your own argument. Name stuff that you can only ever get with platinum, or real money period, that provides mastery, besides founders. I'm still waiting, but it's clear you don't have anything to add here, or you would straight up say it instead of trying to play coy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 No. I'd never buy a product like that which can never be obtained through time/effort in game unless it is cosmetic only, and I doubt umbra excal is going to be just a cosmetic shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellDevil Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 if they did a special umbra access like they did with prime warframes yes. But at least make umbra excaliber farmable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiroTheTraveler Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 @(Xbox One)EternalDrk Mako Here is my guess. An Umbra is what happens when a Warframe uses a Sentinet Artifact which is why Hunhow calls Stalker "Shadow" (Umbra). The lake teaser gave me this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I'd be more likely to consider buying it if it was farm-able. Making it market purchaseable (for plat) only for 3 months only would also be entirely acceptable to me. A premium exclusive? ...Nope. It has no nifty story... No player that spent oodles of hours designing and refining it for free is involved. It's Chinese Warframe leftovers and should only be balancing the Mastery scales from Excal Prime (Yup... I said it). That said, I am entirely comfortable with Umbra being unable to be gotten via any other means than the Market for the first few months. If you are getting it for free you shouldn't ever have it the same day as someone who shelled out money for it (Yup...said that too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monybags33 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 No, simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Sure, why not? Its not crazy to pay for a product that you want. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InDueTime-EN- Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Only if it is purely cosmetic. I don't think they would place anything that's not purely cosmetic behind a pay wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Padre_Akais said: It's Chinese Warframe leftovers and should only be balancing the Mastery scales from Excal Prime (Yup... I said it). How would it balance the mastery scales? Founders would be able to get it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 47 minutes ago, Hypernaut1 said: How would it balance the mastery scales? Founders would be able to get it too Founders wouldn't get MR points for Umbra had I my way of it. ...At least up to the Founders pack point purchased. The MR disparity (small as it is) is the only really valid argument I have ever heard regarding the Founders pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 2 hours ago, CaptainStrawberry said: @(Xbox One)EternalDrk Mako Here is my guess. An Umbra is what happens when a Warframe uses a Sentinet Artifact which is why Hunhow calls Stalker "Shadow" (Umbra). The lake teaser gave me this idea. ive thought stalker/shadow stalker sentient combo was a proof of concept , still do , as technically sentient are orokin era tech .... but thats so far just a theory , its been around a while astrologically speaking though an umbra is the darkest shadow so its meaning is more than simple shadow, but darkest point of a shadow while stalker would be something like a penumbra , not at the maximum darkness , which begs the question of if the meter is tied to umbras from TWW Spoiler the lake: i remember talking with someone on this.... but i dont think ive actually talked on this forum side excalibur [myth] is tied to a lady in a lake who bestows it, is a good hint towards the Excalibur tie in to it i agree, but the lady also ties in with Merlin ..so maybe thats another angle of myth to look into ... Spoiler also if this ties in with the pendragon mythology then along those lines we could reflect on of Arthur and medraut aka mordred known as the "traitor" who mortally wounded the king , mordred can also mean within bounds & moderation from latin..if i remember that right there are some variations of the tale were mordred is arthurs son also, from morgan le fey though .. he was actually more thought to be his cousin officially , but its thought he was a blood relative we have a dark/light concepts there, and then possibly that could show the sacrifice angle as the original tenno/warframes were the traitors ...to the orokin , maybe we see who struck first ..id assume it was an excalibur being the first and oldest frame by lore standards just some thoughts ive had on this , but thats what i can remember on the subject of Arthurian legend off hand.... -warning graphic- Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennoPain Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just now, Tesseract7777 said: Nope, you need to provide evidence when you make a claim. Name things with mastery besides the original founders stuff that you cannot ever get through farming/grinding/events, no matter what. You need to provide evidence, not play mysterious. And Lato and Braton Vandal certainly don't count as they never cost money, and were confirmed to be released again soon. So it's up to you to provide evidence or keep looking ridiculous and unable to back up your own argument. Name stuff that you can only ever get with platinum, or real money period, that provides mastery, besides founders. I'm still waiting, but it's clear you don't have anything to add here, or you would straight up say it instead of trying to play coy. I just said not everything is farmable (not refering to stuff that give you masterty points only. read more careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Well in light of the Harrow-trailer, lost souls or dead rising is even more likely. Shadows or shades are often names for demons or souls in mythology and many other fictions. Now we hear of evil unleashed and then human figures that move like Rells mother in the comic. TRUTH OF THE ZARIMAN. AT LAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakrana Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, arch111 said: Shadows or shades are often names for demons or souls in mythology and many other fictions. The Odyssey comes to mind as a notable example, whereby Odysseus invokes the dead to speak to shades for guidance. And as part of the invocation, Odysseus has to offer up blood for the dead are noted to be hungry. Which considering Palladino is the Veil's spiritual medium, and the Veil's "No blood too precious, no cost too great" thing...maybe the Veil have a similar approach to entreating spirits? Though part of me wonders if it's necessarily worked in the past. Course if the Void is, least as I suspect, responsive in a psionic manner...maybe it does work. Though of course, simply conjecture as of now. 4 hours ago, (Xbox One)EternalDrk Mako said: excalibur [myth] is tied to a lady in a lake who bestows it, is a good hint towards the Excalibur tie in to it i agree, but the lady also ties in with Merlin ..so maybe thats another angle of myth to look into ... There's also how Galatine is referred to as the shadow to Excalibur's light, a gift from the Lady of the Lake to Sir Gawain. I admittedly doubt anything would come of that mind, what with us having the sword anyway...but it does make for considerations if that's the motif going on with the puddle. Either way, apologies for going on, as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodofWiFi Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 @Blakrana Why do you keep apologising for speaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Padre_Akais said: Founders wouldn't get MR points for Umbra had I my way of it. ...At least up to the Founders pack point purchased. The MR disparity (small as it is) is the only really valid argument I have ever heard regarding the Founders pack. That would just be ridiculously and pointlessly unfair... Eh, it's just a hypothetical anyway. We know they won't do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corial Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, TheGodofWiFi said: @Blakrana Why do you keep apologising for speaking? He is polite type, thats my guess ^~^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodofWiFi Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just now, Corial said: He is polite type, thats my guess ^~^ Being polite means apologising for opening your mouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakrana Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, TheGodofWiFi said: @Blakrana Why do you keep apologising for speaking? A number of things which I sincerely doubt anyone wants cluttering the conversation. So...I'll leave it at mostly poor self esteem and always being the scapegoat in a given situation. Quoting TV Tropes Quote This a common trait among people with low self-esteem and lacking trust and/or social skills, as well as people who have been abused. It's a defense mechanism to prevent rejection, violence or hostility that one feels directed towards him/her, but also to dodge and avoid a conflict. Quote Polly has self-esteem issues. Polly was taught as a child that it is polite to apologize, even when it isn't her fault. Polly is just exhibiting good manners. Polly used to be blamed for everything as a child and it's influenced her in her adult life. Sure. There's more to it. But not the point of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corial Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Blakrana said: A number of things which I sincerely doubt anyone wants cluttering the conversation. So...I'll leave it at mostly poor self esteem and always being the scapegoat in a given situation. Quoting TV Tropes Sure. There's more to it. But not the point of the thread. Lets hope you'll be alright tho :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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