Ham_Grenabe Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 DE will make more to keep people playing, whether there's any real "lore sense" to it at all (I am of the opinion that any lore justification of another Umbra frame will be thin at best, but that has never stopped DE before and it's not like I'm going to refuse to play a new frame because of lore :D). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahansral Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) vor 7 Stunden schrieb Vilemyre: So after having a good play around with umbra I can say as a founder he tops excal prime by a lot fo things. Against Sentients he may be better suited (Haha!), but in the rest of the game? The aditional casting time compared to radial blind hurts a lot. and the specter-like behaviour is limited by clunky AI behaviour and the loss of the damage reduction.And until DE gives more Info about the future of the new mods and the new polarity Umbra has a lot less modding flexibility for frame and exalted weapon. Edited June 16, 2018 by Sahansral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ringed-Umbra- Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I'm happy, waited for 3 years, got what I wanted (more to be honest) and the quest is also awesome, so ye, hope you all enjoying it, I guess I'll stay with the same damn MR for another 5 years. (yeah... when i like something i use it until im bored) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 6 hours ago, WARmaro said: How was umbra able to use its powers, if the tenno fuel them with their void energy? Yup, this is one thing that we are going to need a refresher on. So the tenno came first but the Orokin couldn't do anything with their constant void radiation so they were put into stasis. Then they created the bio drones. Then they figured the idea of the tenno as the battery and the frame as the lense to refine the raw void energy into specific uses. This is the description of many frames, "built for healing," etc. But now Umbra is the first and had powers? How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahansral Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 (edited) vor 57 Minuten schrieb Mak_Gohae: But now Umbra is the first and had powers? How? I thought about that, too. But do we really have a clue that Umbra came beore the tenno-mounted warframes? In the orokin recording device Ballas mentions the tenno and their impact on the war. So I thought Umbra is created while the war is raging and the tennos in warframes are kicking sentient ass.. Edited June 16, 2018 by Sahansral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----Legacy---- Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Vilemyre said: As ordis has mentioned warframes don't feel any thought or emotion because they are merely just puppets I think that warframes get their brains made unable to completely control their bodies by the transference bolt that allows the operator to remotely control it, however, margulis willing to "silence the voices" heard by tenno during transference makes me think of them being conscious of what was happening to them all the time, being their survival instinct the first thing showing some semblant of their consciousness. I wish i could elaborate on umbra but still have to do some quests, but I'm a bit lazy so I guess i'm going to watch it on youtube or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, ----Legacy---- said: I think that warframes get their brains made unable to completely control their bodies by the transference bolt that allows the operator to remotely control it, however, margulis willing to "silence the voices" heard by tenno during transference makes me think of them being conscious of what was happening to them all the time, being their survival instinct the first thing showing some semblant of their consciousness. I wish i could elaborate on umbra but still have to do some quests, but I'm a bit lazy so I guess i'm going to watch it on youtube or something. Actually Margulis wasn't involved with Warframe (she was killed before they took the Tenno for it) so the voices might be the Void. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Sahansral said: I thought about that, too. But do we really have a clue that Umbra came beore the tenno-mounted warframes? In the orokin recording device Ballas mentions the tenno and their impact on the war. So I thought Umbra is created while the war is raging and the tennos in warframes are kicking sentient ass.. The story statesthat warframes were created and sent out as drones but they went wild. Then the tennos were added. Umbra is said to maybe predate everything in your arsenal. At best Umbra may be Balas' secret army because he defected. So you could say that his drones had some powers cause he did something different but they sure look like standard frame powers used by the tenno-powered frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeaserResael Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 hace 13 horas, IonSakura dijo: Is the rewarded Umbra animation set suppose to work on other frames or not? They look super cool but it seems they are not available to others Which makes no sense when you consider they make a point of giving you those animations as rewards. They -should- work on other frames, I think it's a bug, because Umbra would have them by default, it would be pointless to mention them as rewards otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urlan Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 7 hours ago, NightmareT12 said: Actually Margulis wasn't involved with Warframe (she was killed before they took the Tenno for it) so the voices might be the Void. According to Silver Grove she was involved with making the original warframes along with the Archimedian she hired specifically for the task of making infested surrogate bodies for the Tenno to control. That said, I believe you are right about the silenced voices being ones for the Tenno, like Wally coming from the Void. According to Teshin, this was protection from Margulis to us but in doing so acted as a seal on most of our power. It wasn't until one of the children, potentially Rell, wounded Margulis that the entire killing us or Margulis came up. One of us is hinted to have Voided her face and possibly disfigured her or melted her eyes out.She didn't denounce us for monsters and was executed by the Council including Ballas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiroTheTraveler Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Umbra is really powerful... in a good way. Also isn't Slash dash faster than Volt with Stretch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiroTheTraveler Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 What do you think of my dark fashion frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deshiel Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 If you don't do this atleast once, you are not a true excalibur main 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolDudeMcCool Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Deshiel said: If you don't do this atleast once, you are not a true excalibur main I went to Larunda as soon as I beat the quest and was the only Umbra with that look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiroTheTraveler Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Deshiel said: If you don't do this atleast once, you are not a true excalibur main If you're cosplaying regular Excalibur, Modred Helmet is the way to go 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 minute ago, CaptainStrawberry said: If you're cosplaying regular Excalibur, Modred Helmet is the way to go 😎 I like that look because it's like a regular Excal put on the scarf and glued Umbra's golden bits to himself and is being all "I'm cool too, see!" Thought makes me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt313 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Has anyone else gotten an interaction upon logging in with Umbra Excal equipped of what appears to be the Tenno having a conversation with either the Frame itself or the Man in the Walls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meneliki Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 If Ballas made Excal umbra, and decided it was a 'mistake' (hence him directing natah to anhialate him) why would he make more umbra frames? Therefore, any subsequent umbra frames would be a bit lorebreaking would they not? Also, the actual original Dax that was used to make umbra is DEAD (by natah).. so the one we build isn't him (so why would he have those memories?) also on that topic, since warframes are made using people, who are we using when we build a warframe? The Orokin were cruel and would use ppl against their will.. I can't see Tenno doing that. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiroTheTraveler Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Cobalt313 said: Has anyone else gotten an interaction upon logging in with Umbra Excal equipped of what appears to be the Tenno having a conversation with either the Frame itself or the Man in the Walls? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhashruman Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 There will be more to this story I reckon because even the crashed Orokin ship that we can find on Lua didnt feature in the quest even though it was in the Sacrifice's first ever trailer during TennoCon 2017. The ship however, is still there on Lua. We may have to use that ship to go to the Tau system (maybe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inochi-Megami Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I like the spectre feature of Umbra.... so I sure as hell hope more get made >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldnacpeek Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Loza03 said: I like that look because it's like a regular Excal put on the scarf and glued Umbra's golden bits to himself and is being all "I'm cool too, see!" Thought makes me chuckle. I just like it because I find it kind of cute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupcakesMoo Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) Of course there will be more umbra frames. Because if they don't make new ones people will complain, then "leave" only to come back a week later and secretly play without posting on the forums. Edited June 17, 2018 by CupcakesMoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urlan Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Dhashruman said: There will be more to this story I reckon because even the crashed Orokin ship that we can find on Lua didnt feature in the quest even though it was in the Sacrifice's first ever trailer during TennoCon 2017. The ship however, is still there on Lua. We may have to use that ship to go to the Tau system (maybe) Is that an Orokin Ship or that of early Corpus reconnaissance like the recent Grineer incursions since? I did wonder why that alcove didn't show up during the quest, I had sorta wanted to have a bordering party time deal! Perhaps though, the scene was just used for last year's teaser due to looking so cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhashruman Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Yeah, I'm referring to the Orokin ship. Not too sure about its relevance though but I'm assuming it may have some significance in the future simply due to the fact that it is still there. I doubt DE would have made it a permanent thing in the game's tiles if they were just using it as a background / scenery for a trailer. That and also the fact that the Sacrifice ending was a major cliff hanger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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