rand0mname Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 50 минут назад, A-p-o-l-l-y-o-n сказал: Stalker isn't like Umbra or any other Warframe. Warframes don't retain their voice or personality. We know this because we've seen Umbra frames (those that are purely infested creatures) and official Tenno-controlled warframes (that don't move much at all). Stalker is not a guy who was turned into a Warframe. He's a guy who put himself into a Warframe. That's a difference. Furthermore, Stalker's codex entry makes distinction between the Tenno (recognized by their Warframes since no one really knew they were kids except the Orokin executors and emperors) and the Guardians. So it is improbable that Stalker would've been turned into a Warframe. As EternalDrkMako mentioned, with time Warframe creation process could be refined to a point it did not result in raving madness. Compare any invention 10 years ago to what we have now :). Why would Orokin not improve their only reliable weapon against Sentients? Why would they not try to find a way to go around the limited amount of Zariman kids by building a frame that can think without a “Void Demon” and mass produce it? So I would not dismiss the possibility of Stalker being a frame without Operator. Remember Acolytes? According to Alad, Stalker “has found others as twisted as himself”. I find it peculiar how they seem to address our frames directly, the way they “talk” and what they say. "I see you are still their servants." “The Shadow is pure, undreaming, untainted.” "These children will not stop us from punishing you. The Shadow commands it." Of course DE may change or retcon it, but Sacrifice proven they do have a story planned out in advance. Edited June 19, 2018 by rand0mname Spelling. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 Removed the Prime Passive of Energy pulse on Orokin Void Death Orb applying to Umbra as he is not considered a Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 now -Tweaked Umbra’s Radial Howl animation to have a very similar cast time and FX to Excalibur’s Radial Blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 did anyone else notice the Doppler now makes comments about issah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)reddragonhrcro Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, (XB1)EternalDrk Mako said: did anyone else notice the Doppler now makes comments about issah? Is there a new one aside of the one that happens after the quest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksi134 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, (PS4)reddragonhrcro said: Is there a new one aside of the one that happens after the quest? Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Aleksi134 said: Nah. 13 minutes ago, (PS4)reddragonhrcro said: Is there a new one aside of the one that happens after the quest? Spoiler Voice: How do you feel kiddo? Operator: I killed him, Isaah Voice: Is that how you remember it? Operator: Yes Voice: Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)reddragonhrcro Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Yeah we knew about it. Next thing on the list to figure out is if there's anything with Helminth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, (PS4)reddragonhrcro said: Yeah we knew about it. Next thing on the list to figure out is if there's anything with Helminth umbra cant open the door oddly enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)reddragonhrcro Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, (XB1)EternalDrk Mako said: umbra cant open the door oddly enough We'll have to wait for someone with a fully grown cyst to go in but we are couple days away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, (PS4)reddragonhrcro said: We'll have to wait for someone with a fully grown cyst to go in but we are couple days away. my cyst is growing on mine pc side, ill note anything odd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)reddragonhrcro Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, (XB1)EternalDrk Mako said: my cyst is growing on mine pc side, ill note anything odd Good to know. Do you have the means to record? Would be good to have a recording of the new line or possible new activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, (PS4)reddragonhrcro said: Good to know. Do you have the means to record? Would be good to have a recording of the new line or possible new activity. i should be able to record it or at least stream it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Nox Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 They remove prime passive. Now Prime > Umbra. And i want delete this inferior frame, but it can`t be deleted. Just great ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apoc001 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Darth_Nox said: They remove prime passive. Now Prime > Umbra. And i want delete this inferior frame, but it can`t be deleted. Just great ! I feel sorry for you, for thinking because of that situational passive, that it makes Prime better with that thinking, because Umbra has sentience and cant die now, it makes Umbra better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogaMC1995 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Darth_Nox said: They remove prime passive. Now Prime > Umbra. And i want delete this inferior frame, but it can`t be deleted. Just great ! Lol you want to delete because you can't get 250 energy per orb anymore? Hunter Adrenaline is better and gives you energy not just one time but anytime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urlan Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Darth_Nox said: They remove prime passive. Now Prime > Umbra. And i want delete this inferior frame, but it can`t be deleted. Just great ! I can understand being disappointed by that, but while it was useful; it was odd as Umbra was not a prime warframe. To be fair, Excalibur prime doesn't have the possibility to be set to AI control either though; so its not inferior in either case but different. Be that as it may, I hope you are able to enjoy the warframe for what it is and use it for missions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErzaSakuretto Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I think @Darth_Nox is sarcastic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiroTheTraveler Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 They made Umbra even more OP now that his Howl casting has been reduced 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 It might've been covered already, but are there any theories as to why Umbra could use Exalted Blade (among other things) without being controlled by a Tenno? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErzaSakuretto Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Blade said: It might've been covered already, but are there any theories as to why Umbra could use Exalted Blade (among other things) without being controlled by a Tenno? Wait, the energy of a Warframe is fueled from the Tenno? As in, the abilities from the Warframes are actually the Tenno casting them with their own energy and the Warframe is just some sort of "magnifying lens"? But what about Specters? I always thought that the Warframes had energy of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Just now, ErzaSakuretto said: Wait, the energy of a Warframe is fueled from the Tenno? As in, the abilities from the Warframes are actually the Tenno casting them with their own energy and the Warframe is just some sort of "magnifying lens"? But what about Specters? I always thought that the Warframes had energy of their own. From Vor's dialogue: "We've been wrong all this time. Tenno do not control the Warframe's divine energy. The Tenno ARE that energy. Each Warframe you control is merely a glass shaping your furious light." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----Legacy---- Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Umbra seems to be a project created prior to transference, if that's the case, then it would make sense for him to have/be his own energy source. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, ErzaSakuretto said: Wait, the energy of a Warframe is fueled from the Tenno? As in, the abilities from the Warframes are actually the Tenno casting them with their own energy and the Warframe is just some sort of "magnifying lens"? But what about Specters? I always thought that the Warframes had energy of their own. You notice the Tenno's energy regenerates but the WF's doesn't unless you Zenurik/Energy Pad/Whatever. I don't know if this is on purpose, but it seems that WFs have their own energy pool that is used for their powers, which they can't get from the Tenno channeling whatever thing through them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Datam4ss said: You notice the Tenno's energy regenerates but the WF's doesn't unless you Zenurik/Energy Pad/Whatever. I don't know if this is on purpose, but it seems that WFs have their own energy pool that is used for their powers, which they can't get from the Tenno channeling whatever thing through them. think of it as a battery and tenno is tapped into a wire via the void Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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