-Ringed-Umbra- Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) Now that is some hot s*it right there.. that got me hyped even more, where is it? where is it ??!? Edited July 22, 2017 by Eminem37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalahssalyst Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Was that the moon destroyed ? look at 14:41 - 14:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corial Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Grimlock- said: Was that the moon destroyed ? look at 14:41 - 14:50 He said "heres a sky.. (something) spoiler." o^o Steve, you crazy teaser Edited July 22, 2017 by Corial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Grimlock- said: Was that the moon destroyed ? look at 14:41 - 14:50 looks like chunks have fragmented off if its moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaAnders Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 So with Chinaframe shutting down, or having been shut down (not sure whether it's actually happened or not yet). Does this mean that legally speaking, DE has an opportunity to include Umbra Excalibur Prime into the global build without any legal ramifications? Also, correct me if I'm wrong but the trailer for "The Sacrifice" shows an Umbra Excalibur Prime does it not? Could this be foreshadowing of a nice surprise coming our way? It would be a bit of a shame to just toss UEP into the void so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 China frame isn't shutting down last I heard. It was PS4 China frame that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I've always thought "Umbra Prime" was pretty dumb, regardless what color his metal accent bits are on release, I'd rather it just be Excalibur Umbra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaAnders Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Just now, Miser_able said: China frame isn't shutting down last I heard. It was PS4 China frame that was. All the reports I've heard have failed to differentiate between general Chinaframe and the PS4 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, JoshuaAnders said: So with Chinaframe shutting down, or having been shut down (not sure whether it's actually happened or not yet). Does this mean that legally speaking, DE has an opportunity to include Umbra Excalibur Prime into the global build without any legal ramifications? Also, correct me if I'm wrong but the trailer for "The Sacrifice" shows an Umbra Excalibur Prime does it not? Could this be foreshadowing of a nice surprise coming our way? It would be a bit of a shame to just toss UEP into the void so to speak. As far as I have understood it, Umbra Excalibur is going to look the same as Umbra Excalibur Prime. The only difference is the name. So it really doesn't matter at all anyway. Not even a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaAnders Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Just now, Tesseract7777 said: As far as I have understood it, Umbra Excalibur is going to look the same as Umbra Excalibur Prime. The only difference is the name. So it really doesn't matter at all anyway. Not even a little. Oh sweet, that's all I care about tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) I've still seen nothing that actually shows "Excalibur Umbra Prime" being different from "Excalibur Umbra". The models shown between the two have always been same and I've never even seen a DE employee say "Umbra Prime". Seems something more that was created within the community and spread around as if it was fact. Edited July 23, 2017 by Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ringed-Umbra- Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Sean said: I've still seen nothing that actually shows "Excalibur Umbra Prime" being different from "Excalibur Umbra". The models shown between the two have always been same and I've never even seen a DE employee say "Umbra Prime". Seems something more that was created within the community and spread around as if it was fact. Chine version was Umbra Prime, Founders only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Just now, Eminem37 said: Chine version was Umbra Prime, Founders only. I've only seen players say that though, and the only official name I've seen of it is the Chinese Characters or DE themselves saying "Excalibur Umbra". Additionally, the actual frame appears to be exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ringed-Umbra- Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Sean said: I've only seen players say that though, and the only official name I've seen of it is the Chinese Characters or DE themselves saying "Excalibur Umbra". Additionally, the actual frame appears to be exactly the same. There was an actuall Devstream If my memory don't fail me, but I guess it was back when excalibur umbra released, (around 2 and a half year or something) they said that they would release Umbra but it would not be the prime version just the normal umbra. That is one of the reasons Umbra is so hyped as well, since they said they would release it, It was even speculated to release after Wukong, There was as well a Topic made by [DE]Rebecca talking about the release of the Non prime version of excalibur umbra after 30 days of its release on china,the topic was shortly deleted after it was posted. It was also said that it would not be gold as the prime version by the way, but the teaser now got everyone by surprise since is still there. And it is a good thing that it is there, it's very pretty. Edited July 23, 2017 by Eminem37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lulialmir Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 what do you think about the "sacrifice" theory behind umbra? Please add your opinios below! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoner Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) Margulis scarified herself to save the Tenno. Miracle being the Tenno, obviously. Maybe Umbra has something to do with Margulis? Edited July 23, 2017 by Stoner74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Sean said: I've only seen players say that though, and the only official name I've seen of it is the Chinese Characters or DE themselves saying "Excalibur Umbra". Additionally, the actual frame appears to be exactly the same. read the FAQ in op is my suggestion , as your confused on an old topic .... as a few others seem, I suggest to all those new to read it at your earliest convenience quick recap : star armor/changyou got a frame called "excalibur umbra prime" as a founder package along with spira prime and nikana prime , the star armor is a separate game form our own, many things/translation and such are not the same to globals. the global gets things from star armor content eventually like zhuge ,nikandi[nun-chucks] ,wukong,nezha ...ect per the agreement the global cant get the excalibur umbra prime in the normal method due to ..legal reasons it was decided that the frame would be deployed to the game via a quest drop , its presumed to be the one called "the sacrifice" the star armor excalibur umbra prime which has different stats from excalibur and excalibur prime Spoiler what we of the "global" get is excalibur umbra , the first of a new warframe line called the "umbra warframes" the umbras are a counter part to the primes , they have their own deployment method separate from primes , what that is is unkown the model for the excalibur umbra is identical to the excalibur umbra prime as it is the same one with pbr upgrades, and thats because that is how we get excalibur umbra prime, its just not a prime , de decided to make umbra line its own thingm but it will hopefully have its own unique mechanic to differ itself from other excal variants currently employed in both games at this time we dont know what frames will follow it , or what stats or abilities it has , hopefully most will be made clear in the sacrifice quest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashrah Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 depends we will see.. i know in some games that can be very powerful.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fey_Yoshida Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 If this theory is true... then we will have more "Hey Kiddo's" then ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Asailies Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Okay, after watching every YouTubers theory on the sacrifice and looming at the available sources of lore in the game. I can conclude these YouTubers are crazy. Sacrificing a frame just to have Umbra is ridiculous. Or giving up the ability to use primes is even more crazy. Now, I believe we should have saw this quest coming a mile away. I say this, because the lore for ember or Excalibur don't speak about operators. Embers tortured lore speaks on ember. Secondly, Lephantis never forgets to tell us we are of the same flesh. Now my crazy theory is that our "warframes" used to be people and are still sentient. By sentient I mean alive-ish. I believe people too far gone sacrificed themselves to make the warframe to protect the kids. Which would explain why their are genders and clear as day different sizes and shapes in warframe. I believe they are still sentient for the sole fact your warframe ripped a sword from his chest and saved your &#!. Keep in mind what we know about the abilities of our operator and his emo character. Theirs no way he subconsciously controlled it. That was all warframe moving on its own right. Secondly, the grineer queen said she made our suit. But we know them for cloning flesh. Which only helps further Lephantis words we are of the same flesh and why if ppl sacrificed themselves to make the warframes..that their are copies of them for every tenno operator. Thirdly, in the latest quest we hear the w arframes reefer to as vessels. Their is significant important in calling them this. See a suit is just a suit,but a vessel can be living or dead. Such as a Angel possessing person. Or a spirit possessing a dead body. By calling them vessels she was and is alluding to something more about the frames. In conclusion, I could very well be wrong but it makes more sense then sacrificing our frames for Umbra honestly. I think people literally died for these frames. The grineer replicated them. And our frames still hold sentient consciousness to a extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I think it's too simple. 8 minutes ago, (Xbox One)VapidReaper said: Okay, after watching every YouTubers theory on the sacrifice and looming at the available sources of lore in the game. I can conclude these YouTubers are crazy. Sacrificing a frame just to have Umbra is ridiculous. Or giving up the ability to use primes is even more crazy. Now, I believe we should have saw this quest coming a mile away. I say this, because the lore for ember or Excalibur don't speak about operators. Embers tortured lore speaks on ember. Secondly, Lephantis never forgets to tell us we are of the same flesh. Now my crazy theory is that our "warframes" used to be people and are still sentient. By sentient I mean alive-ish. I believe people too far gone sacrificed themselves to make the warframe to protect the kids. Which would explain why their are genders and clear as day different sizes and shapes in warframe. I believe they are still sentient for the sole fact your warframe ripped a sword from his chest and saved your &#!. Keep in mind what we know about the abilities of our operator and his emo character. Theirs no way he subconsciously controlled it. That was all warframe moving on its own right. Secondly, the grineer queen said she made our suit. But we know them for cloning flesh. Which only helps further Lephantis words we are of the same flesh and why if ppl sacrificed themselves to make the warframes..that their are copies of them for every tenno operator. Thirdly, in the latest quest we hear the w arframes reefer to as vessels. Their is significant important in calling them this. See a suit is just a suit,but a vessel can be living or dead. Such as a Angel possessing person. Or a spirit possessing a dead body. By calling them vessels she was and is alluding to something more about the frames. In conclusion, I could very well be wrong but it makes more sense then sacrificing our frames for Umbra honestly. I think people literally died for these frames. The grineer replicated them. And our frames still hold sentient consciousness to a extent. The like flesh the infested refer to is the infested components used in our frames. When the queens say "we gave you your gifts" they mean the orokin did. Vessels can be inanimate objects as well. A jar or cup is a vessel. A suit is something you wear, a vessel holds stuff (typically fluids). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)dursereg Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 The orokin took that tenno as their yuavan(their sacrifice). Leaving excal alone full of hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiroTheTraveler Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I've heard Excalibur Umbra Prime has a badge, is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Probably had to sacrifice Chinaframe for Umbra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshuaAnders Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 My first initial thought was that we sacrifice our operator abilities, perhaps even our operator bodies and implant our consciousness into an Umbra frame fully, so that it becomes our vessel consistently rather than our natural physical bodies. But I'm not sure how that would work. For example, how would we shift from Warframe to Warframe? What would happen to the countless hours we invested in Focus farming? Now I'm considering the possibility that perhaps we sacrifice a Warframe itself. Perhaps in this case, an Excalibur Warframe. Perhaps we gain some kind of Orokin technology that converts a regular Warframe into an Umbra. So we essentially lose all progress we made with our pre-crafted Excalibur and begin anew with our new version. I dunno, this has me kind of perplexed. Although I am sure that consciousness transferal has something to do with it, and I can't reel myself away from the possibility that we may have to choose whether or not to become a constant part of our Umbra Warframe as opposed to a temporary controlling force that exists outside of the Warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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