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4 minutes ago, Ksaero said:

Body - yes, but arms and legs are from vanilla Excal.

Don't think they are.

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Why would they use Umbra's torso, but vanilla Excals arms and legs? That seems like unnecessary work and doesn't really make sense.

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3 hours ago, Tarak said:

Well, regardless, he is coming in the next cinematic quest.

That's for sure, but nothing ensures us that DE won't keep sending Umbra in the backburner to release any other project popping up on their heads.

8 minutes ago, Tarak said:

I think their lack of communication and information about Umbra is a direct result of this, they're trying to avoid hyping it up and the player base is doing it anyway... If the community is disappointed by Umbra it's our own fault for drawing conclusions on something we weren't told about.

Since the only thing we knew about umbra in those periods of silence was "it's gonna be amazing" i don't think they were keeping silence to avoid hyping the playerbase.

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7 minutes ago, (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 said:

Don't think they are.

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Edit: lower arm parts. The model on this picture was in the blog but this is not how SS looks in the game. See the hooks? They were removed in the final version.

Also, loincloth is different.

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The Stalker uses the model of Excalibur Umbra minus the crescent attachments and with a different helmet.

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6 минут назад, Ksaero сказал:

Body - yes, but arms and legs are from vanilla Excal.

No, it is umbra parts, but without some golden parts (black parts are the same) (yes scarf and skirt it is different things)

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1 minute ago, ----Legacy---- said:

Since the only thing we knew about umbra in those periods of silence was "it's gonna be amazing" i don't think they were keeping silence to avoid hyping the playerbase.

No one at DE said it was "going to be amazing". They just said it Umbra's were going to be given to a very select group of frames, more than likely the first ones. They were keeping silent to avoiding hyping the playerbase, but evidently they don't need to say anything at all for that to happen. 

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5 minutes ago, Ksaero said:

Edit: lower arm parts. The model on this picture was in the blog but this is not how SS looks in the game. See the hooks? They were removed in the final version.

Yes, but the arms and legs still have the same patterns as on Umbra. The upper arms still have the metallic parts as well. All they did was remove the hooks, so it wasn't so blatantly obvious. 

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2 minutes ago, (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 said:

Yes, but the arms and legs still have the same patterns as on Umbra. All they did was remove the hooks, so it wasn't so blatantly obvious. 

Anyways, the original post was about preferring to make SS "cosplay" with vanilla Excal. It's not perfect, but neither is Umbra as there are some details that make him look even more different to SS.

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3 minutes ago, Ksaero said:

Anyways, the original post was about preferring to make SS "cosplay" with vanilla Excal. It's not perfect, but neither is Umbra as there are some details that make him look even more different to SS.

The only difference is his helmet, different material for his loincloths and a lack of golden arm wishbones. You could make a pretty easy Stalker cosplay once Umbra comes out if you colour him black/red and use the Sentient armour set. Just replace the default helmet with the Mordred or one of the Tennogen ones. No doubt that one YouTuber who colours his frames like the Stalker and screams constantly, will make a video featuring Umbra with the SS look.

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19 minutes ago, (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 said:

No one at DE said it was "going to be amazing". They just said it Umbra's were going to be given to a very select group of frames, more than likely the first ones. They were keeping silent to avoiding hyping the playerbase, but evidently they don't need to say anything at all for that to happen. 

Steve himself said that umbra would be amazing on some devstreams, i can't remember on which one but it was around the periods of silence. I should check later for which ones and the timestamps but it would take a while since my computer died yesterday and doing that through mobile is way too much of a hassle.

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10 minutes ago, ----Legacy---- said:

Steve himself said that umbra would be amazing on some devstreams, i can't remember on which one but it was around the periods of silence. I should check later for which ones and the timestamps but it would take a while since my computer died yesterday and doing that through mobile is way too much of a hassle.

I don't think I've heard him say that and I've watched all of them. I could be wrong.

Regardless whether or not he said that, it still doesn't mean the over-hype is DE's fault. I've always set my expectations low because over-hype is the way the dark side (see No Man's Sky, Destiny, Destiny 2, Aliens Colonial Marines etc etc), but people seem to have taken what Steve and what little the other Devs have said on the matter and somehow managed to arrive at the conclusion that Umbra will have some ground-breaking new mechanic or new gameplay addition. It's more likely than not Steve was talking about lore/quest implications more than anything else, since Umbra is out on the Chinaframe and he's basically just Excalibur.

It would be cool if Umbra came with a new mechanic, but I'm not going to a get a pitchfork out if it doesn't. I don't know why quite a few people think that Umbra will be a disappointment because he won't function the way they've imagined he functions and somehow that's DE's fault.

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8 минут назад, ----Legacy---- сказал:

Steve himself said that umbra would be amazing on some devstreams, i can't remember on which one but it was around the periods of silence. I should check later for which ones and the timestamps but it would take a while since my computer died yesterday and doing that through mobile is way too much of a hassle.

Maybe stalker mode it is alpha version of umbra mode? 

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19 минут назад, (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 сказал:

Wasn't Stalker mode just an exclusive thing for TennoCon.

Which is used by devs after tennocon

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On 1/15/2018 at 1:27 AM, Skulldozer115 said:

Now im not sure but AFAIK they said vanilla frames are getting high priority on getting umbra'd, although im not sure if the other frames are getting an umbra as well, I could be wrong though.

 they initially stated umbra excal is the kickoff frame same as excal prime 

though which frames can have umbra, or what prerequisite make them able to be is unknown 

unlike primes, umbras could virtually be any frame and be create dout of deployment order

so we could in theory get umbras of certain newer frames before a prime variant 

SIDE NOTE: as i lost the posters name .. asked on the agreement between chinaframe and DE , we dont have the official documentation on the agreement  

here is the rough translated version of what we were told [its in op with link to Chinese version] 

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On the international forums, there has been a discussion led by Rebecca with regards to the Chinese warframe. This discussion has lead to confusion over what the Umbra Excalibur, Nikana, etc etc. Therefore, we have had a discussion with DE in that effect.

As Rebecca has mentioned, we will be release a series of Umbra warframes (not skins), it is possible that there will be an umbra Excalibur as the first of the umbra series however the "Originator's" (which means founder) umbra Excalibur prime will not be commonly available. The Umbra Excalibur Prime is an exclusive warframe developed by DE for the Chinese version of warframe and is only available to "Originators". This warframe will not appear in game to purchase under the market nor will it drop in game. We (Changyou) and DE has finalized and agreed on this and will not be changing our position on this.

In other developments, the Prime (samurai blade or Nikana) and Prime (drill/screw Kunai) will not be on sale in the market and neither will it drop for China warframe players. These weapon are also exclusive to China warfame "Originators".On the international side however, these weapons will be released under an unknown format (might be event? market? Prime Access or anything that DE can think up of) after China warframe's Originator's pack sale have concluded

 

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13 hours ago, (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 said:

Wasn't Stalker mode just an exclusive thing for TennoCon.

not really, it's a side project de has been toying with. they plan to bring it into the game eventually, it's just one of those slow burners. (could easily fall into development limbo as well and just never get completed)

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45 minutes ago, (Xbox One)EternalDrk Mako said:

op update 

added V1 thread link , yes the long lost original thread 

 

Here's to hoping this one will be the last one before release...

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4 hours ago, Cubewano said:

not really, it's a side project de has been toying with. they plan to bring it into the game eventually, it's just one of those slow burners. (could easily fall into development limbo as well and just never get completed)

What they actually said about it is that it was just something they threw together for Tennocon for fun, but they might look into maybe bringing it into the game... If they could find the time and way to do that would make thematic sense and was completely optional. >.>

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4 hours ago, Tarak said:

What they actually said about it is that it was just something they threw together for Tennocon for fun, but they might look into maybe bringing it into the game... If they could find the time and way to do that would make thematic sense and was completely optional. >.>

 

They literally said they're adding it and that it's being worked on with an opt-in, opt-out option on a few Prime Times after TennoCon, and even in the recent one featuring Steve. He even discussed the current plan on how the system will work.

I mean, you could have at least gotten all the information before italicizing so much...

https://youtu.be/mK6hmaZgH0w?t=1080

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10 hours ago, (Xbox One)EternalDrk Mako said:

SIDE NOTE: as i lost the posters name .. asked on the agreement between chinaframe and DE , we dont have the official documentation on the agreement  

here is the rough translated version of what we were told [its in op with link to Chinese version] 

It is the same agreement I mentioned. The "will not appear in gamr to purchase undrr the market nor will it drop in game" part refers to Chinese Excalibur Umbra Prime and the only thing told about global Excalibur Umbra is "it's possible that there will be Excalibur Umbra as the first of the Umbra series". So the ways of obtaining global Umbra are not limited.

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19 hours ago, (PS4)BLOOD-LINE-01 said:

I don't think I've heard him say that and I've watched all of them. I could be wrong.

Regardless whether or not he said that, it still doesn't mean the over-hype is DE's fault. I've always set my expectations low because over-hype is the way the dark side (see No Man's Sky, Destiny, Destiny 2, Aliens Colonial Marines etc etc), but people seem to have taken what Steve and what little the other Devs have said on the matter and somehow managed to arrive at the conclusion that Umbra will have some ground-breaking new mechanic or new gameplay addition. It's more likely than not Steve was talking about lore/quest implications more than anything else, since Umbra is out on the Chinaframe and he's basically just Excalibur.

It would be cool if Umbra came with a new mechanic, but I'm not going to a get a pitchfork out if it doesn't. I don't know why quite a few people think that Umbra will be a disappointment because he won't function the way they've imagined he functions and somehow that's DE's fault.

I like theories but I really don't care if the end result is what I speclated it would be, No Man's Sky was actually a great game, and still is. I speculated about it yes not gonna lie, I didn't buy when it first released but I enjoyed it and I'm waiting new updates to enjoy more.

The point is, I've been speculating about Umbra since 2015 (since day one china release), but All I want is just to jump around with Umbra and my nikana prime like a ninja and that damn scarf and probably leave the game again for another whole year after I have enjoyed jumping around with it.

If people have speculated too much and actually thinking hard that it will be like they think it will be that is their problem.

(Yes.. that is why I have not maxed my MR yet.. I like to pick up something to play and play with it forever until I'm done)

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2 hours ago, -Ringed-Umbra- said:

No Man's Sky was actually a great game, and still is.

If you like NMS then good for you. However it is definitely not a great game. It’s more or less a tech-demo repackaged as a standalone video game and you subsequently have little to no substantial gameplay to enjoy.

2 hours ago, -Ringed-Umbra- said:

If people have speculated too much and actually thinking hard that it will be like they think it will be that is their problem.

Indeed. But they won’t admit that. Evidently they start blaming DE for “overhyping” it, even though they didn’t. 

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