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Umbra warframes [Discussion & Appreciation][*spoilers*]

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1 hour ago, Ascythian said:

There was some talk in the last devstream about new Umbra Warframes. How they will be gained would present an opportunity.

The Void, Lua and Kuva Fortress are currently underutilized. Could it be that we could open vaults in the Void/Derelict/Lua/Kuva Fortress with void keys from Orokin Vaults in order to gain said Umbra parts?

Im not worried about Umbra weapons and think there really shouldn't be any [or they should be extremely rare like the Skiajati and only obtainable in quests/special events] but nonetheless Umbra frames have the opportunity to reinvigorate [for the most part imo] these over-looked areas after people have stopped farming argon crystals/farmed Kavat DNA/killed sentients/farmed Kuva.

If they were going to do it, they might as well just add Umbra skins for prime frames.

Umbra Excalibur is basically just Excalibur prime for people who didn’t buy the founders pack. Besides aesthetic there isn’t really anything an Umbra variant would offer over a prime variant.

So unless they start gating even more primes behind exclusive one time bundles, I can’t see any reason from more Umbra frames.

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I'd be fine with Umbral Starter frames, and no others. Volt and Mag, and perhaps Loki since he sat as a starter for quite a while, plus it'd even out to a team of 4 different Umbras. Perhaps not as much cinematic introduction is needed for these others, but I'd still appreciate lore and some measure of importance to their characters. That's about it. As for acquisition, if more cinematic quests are out of the question, it could be a more regular, low brow quest like the older, pre-Second Dream ones for different Warframes.

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It'd be kind of cool if they released several Umbra frames and tied each frame to your choices within the story mission.

Choose majority Light, you get Trinity Umbra.

Choose majority Neutral, you get Rhino Umbra.

Choose majority Dark, you get Ash Umbra.

That way the mission has proper replayability and some story depth to see what certain choices reveal about the lore.

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I kinda got the vibe that they're not really planning on any umbras in the foreseeable future.

Instead of making new and new clones of frames we have already acquired two times each I think the next step should be that we gain knowledge or technology that enables us to upgrade our own multi forma'd killer machines. I'd rather morph my Primes (or vanilla frames) into something else. It could even be something that has negatives and positives so we may have to choose if it's worth it. A continuation. Us meddling with stuff that maybe isn't a good idea. 

Excal Umbra could get to stay unique with his unique origin. Maybe add some other twisted models or a select few frames if DE wants to. I just don't want new frames, new Primes and also new Umbras of older frames to become a thing. It's feels like it would be overwhelming and not really serve a point.

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22 minutes ago, wargthewarg said:

Instead of making new and new clones of frames we have already acquired two times each I think the next step should be that we gain knowledge or technology that enables us to upgrade our own multi forma'd killer machines. I'd rather morph my Primes (or vanilla frames) into something else. It could even be something that has negatives and positives so we may have to choose if it's worth it. A continuation. Us meddling with stuff that maybe isn't a good idea. 

This sounds like a cool idea. Possibly when you have an umbra forma on a frame, you could spend Kuva to ‘awaken’ said frames personality. If you do that you unlock an Umbra Skin for the warframe and it gets the sentience passive.

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Umbra exists solely to replace the prime version coz it's not acquirable for non-founders. I don't see any need of other Umbra warframes. Now Umbra forma is a thing so there is one more reason not to make more Umbras.

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20 hours ago, Marvelous_A said:

Umbra exists solely to replace the prime version coz it's not acquirable for non-founders. I don't see any need of other Umbra warframes. Now Umbra forma is a thing so there is one more reason not to make more Umbras.

 

22 hours ago, (XB1)Cubic Clem said:

No, no more umbra frames. 

That's why we're getting umbra forma ffs

Just like how there's no reason for things to get a Prime variant right? Because of the polarities?

No, of course not. Excalibur Umbra has Umbral polarities, sure, but also a slightly modified ability set, and different/better stats.

I'm not a huge advocate for more more more Umbras, except possibly starter frames as I've said in the thread, but the existence of Umbral Forma does not really affect the list of reasons to add or not add more Umbra frames. Besides, we don't have Sacrificial primary, shotgun, or sidearm mods, and there are other basic mods that could receive an Umbral version, though of course that reopens the whole powercreep discussion that Umbral/Sacrificial mods opened up when they were first released. 

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Honestly, if they go for more Umbral frames, I'd prefer if it's behind some quest that has some actual challenges.

Like doing profit taker and Tridolons solo, archwing survival, 1H Index solo, survive 15 min in Mot with operator...etc.

Wouldn't mind a whole laundry list akin to Nightwave, hidden behind a quest. Each chapter rewarding a part of frame/weapon.

It would just be nice if it's not another "a matter of time" ordeal, let us actually need some skill or gear.

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I’m saying it now:

The New War will be the Story Vehicle that drives Umbra acquisition.  Perhaps it’s rails in the Tau system that offer rewards, or perhaps it uses the Invasion modes as the Sentients crash our Solar System.

Expect more ways to kill Sentients, Umbras included, at Tennocon reveal.

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Anyone got an email about Umbra's statue shipping status yet? Only the first 500-1000 will get their statues soon, others will have to wait for mid-june, I wonder which group I'm in.

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11 minutes ago, Ksaero said:

Anyone got an email about Umbra's statue shipping status yet? Only the first 500-1000 will get their statues soon, others will have to wait for mid-june, I wonder which group I'm in.

ive been wondering myself , i got the initial email but no recent ones and i ordered seconds after it was live 

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13 minutes ago, (XB1)EternalDrk Mako said:

ive been wondering myself , i got the initial email but no recent ones and i ordered seconds after it was live 

Mak be like:

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4 minutes ago, VoidWraith said:

Parodying the Soon™

Explaining the joke generally ruins it.

10 minutes ago, ---UMBRA--- said:

Will it be available in global build?

Probably without the legendary core, if at all.

Chinese Warframe is a different thing entirely. It's like Warframe, but without the part where DE is more or less a respectable company.

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How can we ever say no to a few more excalibur cosmetics.....

Actually I don't mind an umbra alt helmet but lets be honest there are frames that are frames that have considerably less options when it comes to fashionframe.

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4 hours ago, ---UMBRA--- said:

Will it be available in global build?

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Oh lawd I hope so

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Inb4 special quest for the alt helmet in 5 years.

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