Help Me Limbo!

[(XBOX)OmniDevil]

So I finally finished the grind, got him crafted and started ranking the Gentleman Frame up yesterday. I've been dying to play him as his abilities fit my play-style. I've read various threads of the love/hate relationship (more so the latter) that most players have with Limbo, but I told myself, since I couldn't farm for him again outside of tagging along with someone else who's on the quest, that I would actually try to learn how to play him properly.

So I watched a few videos, read some guides and, while I thought I had a decent understanding, I quickly found I had no idea what I was doing! In addition, I soon found how much I've been taking the armor stat for granted. I looked and saw "65" and was like "ok, so don't get slapped around." I was getting shot for no more then a few second before I had any time to react; watching myself bleed out.

The problem with the videos I found is they only explain how "awesome" he is. I have yet to find an instructional "how-to" video and all the guides I have simply talk about about his abilities, but never how to use them properly.

So far, I've been building him for Dur/Str as I've seen the unintentional trolling (well, most trolling) behavior of a Range Limbo build. I primarily wanted to play off his abilities for maximizing killing, while also being able to survive.

If any vets out there can help me out or point me in the correct direction, it would be very much appreciated!

[Samuel_sfx]

Stay in the rift for most time and always have stasis active..if not make sure you are the only one in the rift

[Moysa]

step 1: acquire limbo

step 2: put limbo in trash can

step 3: ????

step 4: profit

but really, what the guy above me said

Edited June 26, 2017 by Moysa

[(XBOX)OmniDevil]

29 minutes ago, Samuel_sfx said:

Stay in the rift for most time and always have stasis active..if not make sure you are the only one in the rift

Can you give me any more details? I don't mean to sound ungrateful (actually, I'm really appreciating someone even replied).

I know how to get in and stay in the Rift. My question is, if I'm in the Rift, don't I simply ensure 2 (in Xbox One's case, X for "Stasis) is up at all times; only reapplying it when it's done? What about Rift Surge (3/B) or Cataclysm (4/Y)?

While in the Rift, it seemed like Stasis couldn't be applied/activated. While it's possible I was don't something wrong, it felt like, while I was in the Rift, I was basically not doing anything as nothing else was in there with me.

[Samuel_sfx]

Stasis can be active and deactivate anytime, you will notice the duration on the ability icon down right corner of the UI.

When you play limbo, first slide into rift, activate stasis. After cast Cataclysm on the place you want to, then you need to activate Rift Surge so that it will spread the rift to the enemy around which eventually will banish the entire mob outside the cataclysm.

You can safely do anything outside the rift by casting 2 then 4 (which is preferably have max duration and range), cast 3 to surge them so then when you blow out the 4, the enemy still in the rift ..stasis..while you are alone in the realm safely unharmed.

[(XBOX)R3d P01nt]

If you are trying to maximize killing, you could try a nuke build (high PS, high range, low duration).  That would require you to put up Cataclysms and then either wait for them to dissipate on their own, dealing damage to the enemies inside, or cancel the Cata manually and do less damage, but continually re-apply.  I could be wrong, but it's not very viable past low levels anymore after the recent Limbo nerf.

Another option is to run the Rift Surge augment.  Then, you'll want to capture enemies in your Cata, Stasis them, then go to town with a melee.  This, however, is what a lot of people in squads object to, so you'd want to do that solo or with a squad that has agreed to the strategy and are also willing to be reduced to melee only.  For that, you'd want high range, good duration, good PS.  The more enemies you trap in Cata the higher your damage output.

[(XBOX)OmniDevil]

1 minute ago, Samuel_sfx said:

Stasis can be active and deactivate anytime, you will notice the duration on the ability icon down right corner of the UI.

When you play limbo, first slide into rift, activate stasis. After cast Cataclysm on the place you want to, then you need to activate Rift Surge so that it will spread the rift to the enemy around which eventually will banish the entire mob outside the cataclysm.

You can safely do anything outside the rift by casting 2 then 4 (which is preferably have max duration and range), cast 3 to surge them so then when you blow out the 4, the enemy still in the rift ..stasis..while you are alone in the realm safely unharmed.

Thank you for the additional details. I always thought that, unless enemies were in the Rift with me, I couldn't do anything to them. This actually helps a lot.

[(XBOX)OmniDevil]

2 minutes ago, (Xbox One)R3d P01nt said:

If you are trying to maximize killing, you could try a nuke build (high PS, high range, low duration).  That would require you to put up Cataclysms and then either wait for them to dissipate on their own, dealing damage to the enemies inside, or cancel the Cata manually and do less damage, but continually re-apply.  I could be wrong, but it's not very viable past low levels anymore after the recent Limbo nerf.

Another option is to run the Rift Surge augment.  Then, you'll want to capture enemies in your Cata, Stasis them, then go to town with a melee.  This, however, is what a lot of people in squads object to, so you'd want to do that solo or with a squad that has agreed to the strategy and are also willing to be reduced to melee only.  For that, you'd want high range, good duration, good PS.  The more enemies you trap in Cata the higher your damage output.

Thank you for the information. I've already decided that I won't be playing him in a group (even with my friends who know I'll be playing him and what I'll be doing), outside of maxing him out. He'll definitely be left to solo missions/farming, if anything else.

So going by what you said with the Rift Augment, I assume, similar to what was suggested by @Samuel_sfx, Slide into Rift > Cast Cata > Cast Stasis > Rift Surge > Go to town with melee, rinse repeat? 

[Samuel_sfx]

Limbo before rework always been an isolation specialist warframe...and still does now.

He won't be good for fast paced killing game like any other but Limbo technically the only frame that can bring you up to waves 300 easily with squad.

You can easily kill with melee while stasis active since playing projectiles while stasis require you activate and deactivate stasis. When  both of you and the enemy can be very risky and harmful.

Take a not that squad still can kill enemy with ABILITY, but stasis render any primary and secondary useless

Edited June 26, 2017 by Samuel_sfx

[(XBOX)R3d P01nt]

Just now, (Xbox One)OmniDevil said:

Thank you for the information. I've already decided that I won't be playing him in a group (even with my friends who know I'll be playing him and what I'll be doing), outside of maxing him out. He'll definitely be left to solo missions/farming, if anything else.

So going by what you said with the Rift Augment, I assume, similar to what was suggested by @Samuel_sfx, Slide into Rift > Cast Cata > Cast Stasis > Rift Surge > Go to town with melee, rinse repeat? 

Yup, that's pretty much it.  You can also cancel Cata and Rift Surge will keep enemies in the rift as well as spread to other enemies.  Then, with you in the rift and them in the rift, you can kill them with melee.

Note, if you are standing in your Cata when it dissipates (either by timer or by your command) you'll be sent back to the material plane and will have to dodge to return to the rift.  Same goes for if you step out of your Cata.

[Samuel_sfx]

1 minute ago, (Xbox One)OmniDevil said:

Thank you for the information. I've already decided that I won't be playing him in a group (even with my friends who know I'll be playing him and what I'll be doing), outside of maxing him out. He'll definitely be left to solo missions/farming, if anything else.

So going by what you said with the Rift Augment, I assume, similar to what was suggested by @Samuel_sfx, Slide into Rift > Cast Cata > Cast Stasis > Rift Surge > Go to town with melee, rinse repeat? 

no..cast stasis first, if you cast 4 first, you'll be dead before finish casting 2.

Don't worry people may not know how to play him at first. But once you get a hang of it, he is the most useful frame on some certain mission, e.g sortie MD, interception, spy. People that hating Limbo obviously don't know when, where and how to play Limbo.

I solo sorties with Limbo.

[(XBOX)OmniDevil]

1 minute ago, (Xbox One)R3d P01nt said:

Yup, that's pretty much it.  You can also cancel Cata and Rift Surge will keep enemies in the rift as well as spread to other enemies.  Then, with you in the rift and them in the rift, you can kill them with melee.

Note, if you are standing in your Cata when it dissipates (either by timer or by your command) you'll be sent back to the material plane and will have to dodge to return to the rift.  Same goes for if you step out of your Cata.

I found that out the hard way yesterday! I felt bad for the random group I joined on a Hydron exp farm. I'm fairly certain I was in bleed out state at least once (some twice), every wave. They seemed to be good sports about it, but I left quick after 10 waves. I couldn't do that to the group again.

[(XBOX)R3d P01nt]

2 minutes ago, Samuel_sfx said:

no..cast stasis first, if you cast 4 first, you'll be dead before finish casting 2.

^ This.

[(XBOX)OmniDevil]

2 minutes ago, Samuel_sfx said:

no..cast stasis first, if you cast 4 first, you'll be dead before finish casting 2.

Don't worry people may not know how to play him at first. But once you get a hang of it, he is the most useful frame on some certain mission, e.g sortie MD, interception, spy. People that hating Limbo obviously don't know when, where and how to play Limbo.

I solo sorties with Limbo.

That was me, for a time, especially while I played with a friend who was leveling him and learning how to play him. Any time I'd get banished, I couldn't figure out how to get out of the Rift; until I read up on him and found out that, as a non-Limbo, I could simply dodge roll out of it; similar to how Limbo does.

[rudman88]

Limbo Guide :

1. How to survive as limbo / stress other people out

 

step 1 : press 4 cataclysm

stem 2 : press 3 tyime stop

then jsut melee all the way.

 

How to be nice or stress your team mates

step 1 : banish him ( so he can charge his energy )

 

So now, limbo 4th skill recently get nerfed. The damage is not high so dont bother go str

go duration range and efficiency and wala

 

you can either make every1 smile or hate you max.

 

Neware of nullifier though

[(PSN)Agent_CHAR]

2 hours ago, (Xbox One)OmniDevil said:

If any vets out there can help me out or point me in the correct direction, it would be very much appreciated!

#1 - set mode to solo

#2 - equip huras kubrow

I enjoy the new limbo but he doesn't play well with others.  Being invisible greatly enhances your ability to do the few things required to be out of the rift and not die.  Things like hacking and opening doors / elevators.

[(PSN)Radehx]

6 hours ago, rudman88 said:

So now, limbo 4th skill recently get nerfed. The damage is not high so dont bother go str

 

True, it's almost irrelevant for his 4th...but if you use the rift torrent augment, it definitely helps ;)

 

[uAir]

Enter Rift.

2, for Stasis.
4, for Catalcysm.
Melee non-stop.
Rinse and repeat.

If Cataclysm gets too small or runs out, activate it again.
If Stasis ends, activate it again.
If you are not in the Rift, re-enter the Rift.
If you are not meleeing, start meleeing.
Use 3 whenever you feel you want a bit of extra damage or another way to extend Rift onto enemies outside of Cataclysm. It can be nice sometimes, mostly worthless. Your 1 is worthless except as a gimmick but the aoe nature of it makes it worthless nowadays. Especially compared to his 2 and 4. Limbo used to be all about his 1, now I find I just practically never use it anymore except to put the rescue target into the rift while we run for safety.

That is how you play Limbo.

You build max range, max duration, a bit of efficiency and you can ignore strength completely.

If you are taking Limbo into Nullifier infested fields and it is a mission where a stationary area needs to be defended you can consider reducing your range so Cataclysm won't end prematurely if a nully field bumps into it. For that, have one load-out be max range, have another load-out be a lesser range that you have worked out for your comfort.

Welcome to Limbo.

Edited June 27, 2017 by uAir

[(PSN)Radehx]

7 hours ago, uAir said:

It can be nice sometimes, mostly worthless.

I wouldn't call 1000%+ dps boost "worthless", it's godly with the rift torrent mod...even more so with Banshee in team, because then you can get crazy damage figures ;)

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Your 1 is worthless except as a gimmick but the aoe nature of it makes it worthless nowadays.

It still allows you to direct banish more than Cataclysm, which is super helpful in teams. Just requires you to become really fluid when it comes to the whole rift jumping.

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You build max range, max duration, a bit of efficiency and you can ignore strength completely.

Not saying this setup is bad, but for a lot of missions and definitely in public games, the max strength/duration setup with rift torrent is infinitely better. And like you said, it's definitely the better options if you're facing nullifiers. 

Edited June 27, 2017 by (PS4)Radehx

[(PSN)lhbuch]

On 2017-6-26 at 0:01 PM, (Xbox One)OmniDevil said:

So I finally finished the grind, got him crafted and started ranking the Gentleman Frame up yesterday. I've been dying to play him as his abilities fit my play-style. I've read various threads of the love/hate relationship (more so the latter) that most players have with Limbo, but I told myself, since I couldn't farm for him again outside of tagging along with someone else who's on the quest, that I would actually try to learn how to play him properly.

So I watched a few videos, read some guides and, while I thought I had a decent understanding, I quickly found I had no idea what I was doing! In addition, I soon found how much I've been taking the armor stat for granted. I looked and saw "65" and was like "ok, so don't get slapped around." I was getting shot for no more then a few second before I had any time to react; watching myself bleed out.

The problem with the videos I found is they only explain how "awesome" he is. I have yet to find an instructional "how-to" video and all the guides I have simply talk about about his abilities, but never how to use them properly.

So far, I've been building him for Dur/Str as I've seen the unintentional trolling (well, most trolling) behavior of a Range Limbo build. I primarily wanted to play off his abilities for maximizing killing, while also being able to survive.

If any vets out there can help me out or point me in the correct direction, it would be very much appreciated!

I guess you understood the mechanics from the above posts which are really good. One tip is to reduce range and keep duration to play with other people, specially randoms.

This way, you can freeze certain areas of the battlefield without annoying the hole squad. In large maps it helps to control the flow of enemies. This coupled with the rift torrent augment might be the Limbo nobody will complain: control over the flow of enemies, enhanced damage inside the rift, can safely revive team mates. 

[(XBOX)OmniDevil]

33 minutes ago, (PS4)lhbuch said:

I guess you understood the mechanics from the above posts which are really good. One tip is to reduce range and keep duration to play with other people, specially randoms.

This way, you can freeze certain areas of the battlefield without annoying the hole squad. In large maps it helps to control the flow of enemies. This coupled with the rift torrent augment might be the Limbo nobody will complain: control over the flow of enemies, enhanced damage inside the rift, can safely revive team mates. 

Thanks.

Actually, I took what I learned from this thread in-game last night and easily saw how strong Limbo actually is. Didn't die once (was surprised how the randoms quickly caught on and switched to melee over primary while in the Rift) and each wave of enemies melted fairly quickly.

Regarding the range, I definitely understand what you and everyone else has said. Even in an organized group, I can see how it can quickly cause problems, but with a smaller radius, giving more control over a smaller group, while not interfering with the rest of your group. With that said, would be better to essentially dump all range or stay within the default 100%?

[(PSN)Radehx]

1 hour ago, (Xbox One)OmniDevil said:

Thanks.

Actually, I took what I learned from this thread in-game last night and easily saw how strong Limbo actually is. Didn't die once (was surprised how the randoms quickly caught on and switched to melee over primary while in the Rift) and each wave of enemies melted fairly quickly.

Regarding the range, I definitely understand what you and everyone else has said. Even in an organized group, I can see how it can quickly cause problems, but with a smaller radius, giving more control over a smaller group, while not interfering with the rest of your group. With that said, would be better to essentially dump all range or stay within the default 100%?

My standard setup has range at 88%...and I lower that to 50%ish for defence missions where I'm basically just keeping the target safe. 

I run at 213% duration, 95% efficiency, 88% range and 208% strength with the rift torrent augment. Limbo's 1 seems a bit clunky at first, but once you start using it more and more you realise it's a great way to selectively banish stuff without messing things up in a somewhat large radius around you.

Power strength doesn't really matter too much for the standard max range/duration setup, but once you slap on rift torrent it does matter. 

Practice jumping in and out of the rift smoothly...because that's basically your tank ;)

Edited June 27, 2017 by (PS4)Radehx

[(XBOX)OmniDevil]

44 minutes ago, (PS4)Radehx said:

My standard setup has range at 88%...and I lower that to 50%ish for defence missions where I'm basically just keeping the target safe. 

I run at 213% duration, 95% efficiency, 88% range and 208% strength with the rift torrent augment. Limbo's 1 seems a bit clunky at first, but once you start using it more and more you realise it's a great way to selectively banish stuff without messing things up in a somewhat large radius around you.

Power strength doesn't really matter too much for the standard max range/duration setup, but once you slap on rift torrent it does matter. 

Practice jumping in and out of the rift smoothly...because that's basically your tank ;)

Your username....fairly certain your the guy/gal on Reddit that offered me tips a week ago!

Thanks for the help!

[(PSN)Radehx]

4 minutes ago, (Xbox One)OmniDevil said:

Your username....fairly certain your the guy/gal on Reddit that offered me tips a week ago!

Thanks for the help!

;)

[(PSN)lhbuch]

18 hours ago, (Xbox One)OmniDevil said:

Thanks.

Actually, I took what I learned from this thread in-game last night and easily saw how strong Limbo actually is. Didn't die once (was surprised how the randoms quickly caught on and switched to melee over primary while in the Rift) and each wave of enemies melted fairly quickly.

Regarding the range, I definitely understand what you and everyone else has said. Even in an organized group, I can see how it can quickly cause problems, but with a smaller radius, giving more control over a smaller group, while not interfering with the rest of your group. With that said, would be better to essentially dump all range or stay within the default 100%?

The actual range will depend on your preference, even a max range can be used if organized with the rest of the team.