fr4gb4ll Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 so, what happened to the "war hilt" and "war blade" drop from the conculyst? i mean, if it's gone from it's droptable, it would hardly be missed - since it was rather impossible to get from one (if one was lucky enough to get a conculyst at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcardgsx Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) Can we reduce the drop rate of Ayatan Anasa Sculpture from a 28+% to something more inline with everything else? Or Perhaps remove that or the 4k Endo from the sortie drop list since its basically the same thing... I have been stacking these Sculpture things for almost a month now its getting a bit old getting the same *expletive* thing every single sortie. My Liset windshield is literally covered with them. Edited July 18, 2017 by Wildcardgsx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemorac Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 On 7/16/2017 at 4:23 PM, fr4gb4ll said: so, what happened to the "war hilt" and "war blade" drop from the conculyst? i mean, if it's gone from it's droptable, it would hardly be missed - since it was rather impossible to get from one (if one was lucky enough to get a conculyst at all). Would really like to know about this as well. War is one of the only things I do not have, and I would love to get the pieces, but if they aren't dropping (like what happened with Cyclone Kraken not too long ago) we need to know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)cmd276 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Reviewing the tables. Is there a reason that Spoiled Strike is listed twice under the Derelict Vault? Spoiler Derelict Vault Spoiled Strike Rare (4.17%) Corrupt Charge Rare (4.17%) Hollow Point Rare (4.17%) Spoiled Strike Rare (4.17%) Magnum Force Rare (4.17%) Tainted Clip Rare (4.17%) Critical Delay Rare (4.17%) Heavy Caliber Rare (4.17%) Tainted Mag Rare (4.17%) Vile Precision Rare (4.17%) Narrow Minded Rare (4.17%) Fleeting Expertise Rare (4.17%) Blind Rage Rare (4.17%) Overextended Rare (4.17%) Tainted Shell Rare (4.17%) Vicious Spread Rare (4.17%) Burdened Magazine Rare (4.17%) Anemic Agility Rare (4.17%) Vile Acceleration Rare (4.17%) Frail Momentum Rare (4.17%) Critical Deceleration Rare (4.17%) Creeping Bullseye Rare (4.17%) Transient Fortitude Rare (4.17%) Depleted Reload Rare (4.17%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr4gb4ll Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 38 minutes ago, (PS4)cmd276 said: Reviewing the tables. Is there a reason that Spoiled Strike is listed twice under the Derelict Vault? Hide contents Derelict Vault Spoiled Strike Rare (4.17%) Corrupt Charge Rare (4.17%) Hollow Point Rare (4.17%) Spoiled Strike Rare (4.17%) Magnum Force Rare (4.17%) Tainted Clip Rare (4.17%) Critical Delay Rare (4.17%) Heavy Caliber Rare (4.17%) Tainted Mag Rare (4.17%) Vile Precision Rare (4.17%) Narrow Minded Rare (4.17%) Fleeting Expertise Rare (4.17%) Blind Rage Rare (4.17%) Overextended Rare (4.17%) Tainted Shell Rare (4.17%) Vicious Spread Rare (4.17%) Burdened Magazine Rare (4.17%) Anemic Agility Rare (4.17%) Vile Acceleration Rare (4.17%) Frail Momentum Rare (4.17%) Critical Deceleration Rare (4.17%) Creeping Bullseye Rare (4.17%) Transient Fortitude Rare (4.17%) Depleted Reload Rare (4.17%) that is interesting - those 24 entries with each 4.17% would be 100.08% (rounding error - must be 4.16xx) - so if one mod is listed twice that means is really can be the reward 2 times or they mixed the names of an other mod... afair, there are only 23 corrupted mods out there (yet) - so something IS a bit fishy here ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)cmd276 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, fr4gb4ll said: that is interesting - those 24 entries with each 4.17% would be 100.08% (rounding error - must be 4.16xx) - so if one mod is listed twice that means is really can be the reward 2 times or they mixed the names of an other mod... afair, there are only 23 corrupted mods out there (yet) - so something IS a bit fishy here ^.^ It is a rounding thing. The true drop is 4.1666 (And on it goes forever). But if it was a mistake of not seeing it / remembering entering it and there are only 23, the drop chance should be 4.347%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr4gb4ll Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 1 hour ago, (PS4)cmd276 said: It is a rounding thing. The true drop is 4.1666 (And on it goes forever). But if it was a mistake of not seeing it / remembering entering it and there are only 23, the drop chance should be 4.347%. right - that's what i was calling "fishy". mixing up the names can happen, but the coincident of having 24 entries and getting the prozentual value for this rigth too, is the "fishy" part ^.^ so maybe we'll get a new corrupted mod soon and the 2nd spoiled strike is just a placeholder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)R32Asura Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) Does this apply to PS4 as well? & Also new to Forums, how do I reply to others? Thanks Edited July 19, 2017 by (PS4)R32Asura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)cmd276 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 6 hours ago, (PS4)R32Asura said: Does this apply to PS4 as well? & Also new to Forums, how do I reply to others? Thanks There's a quote button below a person's post that you can use. I'll assume most (if not all of it, once PS4 gets the Harrow update) is close, if not hte same as the PC version. 7 hours ago, fr4gb4ll said: right - that's what i was calling "fishy". mixing up the names can happen, but the coincident of having 24 entries and getting the prozentual value for this rigth too, is the "fishy" part ^.^ so maybe we'll get a new corrupted mod soon and the 2nd spoiled strike is just a placeholder? Could be they just added them up, Then divide 100 by that answer. A new corrupted mod sounds nice... Too bad I can't ever get a full team to run them with me =/ Oh well, I'll find a way to get the new stuff! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)UncleFuse Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 While it is great to have this information.... I would love to see more rivens.. Not sure if my account is bugged or not but i have done countless sorties and still nothing...I do realise the other rewards are useful but for me Rivens being the firts reward on the list should give me a pretty good chance.. I also realise Rivens aren't the only thing in the game lol Im trying NOT to sound like a whinger but if i dont voice my concern you wont know about it. I have spent alot of money in this wonderful game but wont be buying rivens at the crazy prices people are asking for them. I would also like to say congrats on the chains of harrow quest as it was awesome... as is harrow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)UncleFuse Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 On 7/13/2017 at 4:21 AM, (PS4)HSomDevil said: You all know what this means? I got a legendary drop from a sortie! Hide contents Greater Unairu lens Atleast it was a greater lens lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jangkrik Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) Seeing as the drop tables are already given to the public, does it mean that publishing datamined information strictly limited to the drop tables is now legal? I'm neither distrusting DE nor advocating datamining, but we all know that having both the official drop tables in sync with the datamined one(s) would greatly ease the doubts had by the community now that Void_Glitch is gone. Edited July 20, 2017 by Jangkrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 On 6/29/2017 at 4:34 AM, [DE]Rebecca said: Here you will find a new Warframe resource: https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/repos/hnfvc0o3jnfvc873njb03enrf56.html 0.18% for Legendary Core, awesome ... that's why i never got one Anyways kudos for the transparency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr4gb4ll Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Reptoks said: 0.18% for Legendary Core, awesome ... that's why i never got one Anyways kudos for the transparency and even if i'd get one these days, i wouldn't need it anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)AsuraTraitor Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Does this apply to PS4 As well? Or just PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastfaB Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 On 7/20/2017 at 1:45 AM, (PS4)dragonman068 said: While it is great to have this information.... I would love to see more rivens.. Not sure if my account is bugged or not but i have done countless sorties and still nothing...I do realise the other rewards are useful but for me Rivens being the firts reward on the list should give me a pretty good chance.. I also realise Rivens aren't the only thing in the game lol Im trying NOT to sound like a whinger but if i dont voice my concern you wont know about it. I have spent alot of money in this wonderful game but wont be buying rivens at the crazy prices people are asking for them. I would also like to say congrats on the chains of harrow quest as it was awesome... as is harrow.. I feel your pain. Chances were supposed to be better with the addition of melee rivens but I have done the sortie every day since update 21 and no riven. I had no problem rolling one here and there before Harrow. Something is off or my luck has been seriously awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubtleOaf Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Based on the published data, all capture missions have a rewardtable (which they actually share). Except for one, the Orokin Derelict capture, which does not appear at all in the data. It's the only capture mission with a cost (key to craft), and yet the only one without reward. Could it be added to the capture reward group ? (Or have its own table, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindbulletz Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Is it a possibility to get the War Hilt and War Blade added to the tables? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevoDinAlt Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 On 7/13/2017 at 10:48 PM, Grimm said: Pistol Riven Mod Rare (7.61%) Shotgun Riven Mod Ultra Rare (1.36%) Melee Riven Mod Rare (9.14%) Rifle Riven Mod Rare (6.79%) that's 24.9%, chains of harrow said it was going to be 25% that's a 0.1% discrepancies. sure nothing but thought just point it out. No. Unless everything I have read and understood is incorrect, then those numbers are the chance that one of those items will be a sortie reward. One has a 9.14% chance for a melee riven mod and not a 25% chance for a Riven Mod broken down into the above percentages. It's not 24.9% each time one does a sortie. Those numbers are more like it. I appreciate the transparency. A lot is certainly revealed between what's been said and what's now being shown. -Revo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarity Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Looks like I'll still be relying on data miners to see what relics are vaulted, considering how utterly useless the game is at providing that information (buried at the deepest level of a completely separate set of menus, instead of being right in the main, pre-mission Void Relic Selection list, and only available for relics you've owned). Is it really too much to ask for the codex to include things before we see them? We can just go to the wiki for that information anyway. All you're doing is pissing people off by forcing that, including the poor individuals who have to put up with using your overly complicated game interface to update the wiki. And why is the vaulted status of relics only listed in the codex? Why can't they just say "LITH A1 RELIC (VAULTED)" in the pre/in-mission selection and refinement screens?PUT THE INFORMATION WHERE IT IS NEEDED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat40 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Axi V2 relic does not currently drop in game but the rest of the Boar prime does. This seems kinda like a tease. Please put the Axi V2 Relic back in the game. The vault shouldn't close for another 2 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Killjoy Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 @[DE]Rebecca table "Event: Europa/Cryotic Front (Capture)" repeats 3 times. P.s: Thanks for sharing this data. It is very useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mael9740 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 21 hours ago, Foxbat40 said: Axi V2 relic does not currently drop in game but the rest of the Boar prime does. This seems kinda like a tease. Please put the Axi V2 Relic back in the game. The vault shouldn't close for another 2 days. Nope. It contain Hikou and Vectis, both are vaulted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Raf Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 @[DE]RebeccaThanks so much for sharing the data! A quick request: can you put a date/timestamp at the top of the page each time it's updated? A changelog would be *amazing*, but even that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLexiConArtist Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I'm afraid in my experience, the observable rates in game grossly disagree with the data. Since my last count of a certain Neo relic (B2) I have gained 29. It shares assumed equal rates in all listed locations I checked with its counterparts, including Neo B3 for the duration of the Vault opening. I have seen zero Neo B3 relics. Sadly I do not bear the statistical knowledge to confidently calculate what the combinatory odds of such an outcome is, but I know that I've done 15 two-wave runs of Xini today and seen at least 10 additional B2 relics and still zero B3 for those 30 potential drops at assumed-equal 9.09% rates. Yes, that's anecdotal, yes it's plausible for a player to hit even the most abysmal odds, but if the veracity of this data is true, and the allegations of drop rates I've had argued before we had this data were also technically true for an equivalent source found through datamining (here I recall having to grind 8 hours between Axi V5s appearing when Valkyr Prime was fresh), then there has to be something algorithmically wrong with how the RNG creates and compares numbers against these supposed chances. One person can't anecdotally be subpar against the odds all the time without that cumulative probability becoming so infinitesimal as to be unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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