DirkDeadeye Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/forum/10-find-a-clan/ Here. There is no reason. Not a single reason, anyone cannot find a likeminded clan to play with. To slowly crawl through missions, to reach the extraction in 45 minutes. Of course I will be told that the same could be said for people who rush. The thing is, when you play a public game, you're either going to have people who rush, or do not rush. You have zero influence over that. Maybe they do want to kill a lot of things, but they're not interested in mats. I'm in a clan, I get on TS, and I ask, "anyone need to farm some plastids?" that is if I don't want to go alone. Or "I need X frame, who wants to help me?" I usually get the help/company I need. Game experience is in tact. Here's that link again https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/forum/10-find-a-clan/ And there's going to be the people who do not want to join a clan, do not want people playing outside their own pre-defined methodology, and will still complain. While not taking any other action other than suggesting brute force changes to the game to force people to play like they do. But I'm not interested in them. They're a bunch of idiots. The same people who stitch and *@##$ about politics but never vote. Edited July 23, 2013 by DirkDeadeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicshuter Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 This guy has a good point, if you get in a big clan, there's always someone to assist you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 While this is true, DE is on the side of rushing = bad. They don't want people to sprint through the missions, however it is up to DE to find a way to give an incentive to not rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhisperByte Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 While this is true, DE is on the side of rushing = bad. They don't want people to sprint through the missions, however it is up to DE to find a way to give an incentive to not rush. Well the game itself is on the side of rushing = good... So I guess there's some conflict of interests between DE and their "child". Kinda rebellious phase that lasts a bit too long :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Well the game itself is on the side of rushing = good... So I guess there's some conflict of interests between DE and their "child". Kinda rebellious phase that lasts a bit too long :D Yep, and like I said, DE needs to do something to make players want to stop rushing. (Esp with bosses, I mean, if ONLY the boss can drop a BP, no reason to shoot everything along the way to just kill the boss, be disappointed, and then kill everything on the way out.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSuperTaco Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) they already fixed this with needing half the team at extraction for countdown to work in one of the patches months ago. so if you last place while your entire team is infront its definetly you, like they say: go fast or go solo EDIT: besides you already have a clan, no need to go in online games Edited July 23, 2013 by TheSuperTaco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 they already fixed this with needing half the team at extraction for countdown to work in one of the patches months ago. so if you last place while your entire team is infront its definetly you, like they say: go fast or go solo EDIT: besides you already have a clan, no need to go in online games That's assuming everyone gets to the boss at the same time and kills it. Rushing doesn't start after the objective is finished, it's the entire mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicshuter Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) Yep, and like I said, DE needs to do something to make players want to stop rushing. (Esp with bosses, I mean, if ONLY the boss can drop a BP, no reason to shoot everything along the way to just kill the boss, be disappointed, and then kill everything on the way out.) Simple solution: You get the loot at the end of the mission. It's still random, but you don't know until you see 'mission complete' EDIT: Oh God, I $&*&*#(%& out, that was a solution to people who leave after killing the boss. I just had to teeth extracted so I'm not thinking straight Edited July 23, 2013 by slicshuter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Simple solution: You get the loot at the end of the mission. It's still random, but you don't know until you see 'mission complete' Eh, if everyone gets the loot regardless of how far away they are, maybe. But then rushers rush to end, then the people who are exploring do all the work, while the rushers afk at/near the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagDollRat Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 My issue is I get anoyed by the people who Just HAVE to KILL EVERYTHING THEIR IS IN THE MISSION and break EVERY BOX and open EVERY LOCKER and go in EVERY CLOSET :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatose Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Simple solution: You get the loot at the end of the mission. It's still random, but you don't know until you see 'mission complete' So then it becomes most efficient to rush to the end. That doesn't change the main issue: exploring is inefficient, and thus explorers are wasting valuable time. Adjust the map generation so that boxes off the main path have a 4X chance of dropping rare resources or maybe even can drop blueprints, and the problem will be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kippen.power Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 My issue is I get anoyed by the people who Just HAVE to KILL EVERYTHING THEIR IS IN THE MISSION and break EVERY BOX and open EVERY LOCKER and go in EVERY CLOSET :/ Me too i don't wanna spend 30 minutes per mission when the mission is possible in 10 minutes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicshuter Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Eh, if everyone gets the loot regardless of how far away they are, maybe. But then rushers rush to end, then the people who are exploring do all the work, while the rushers afk at/near the end. Oh God, I $&*&*#(%& out, that was a solution to people who leave after killing the boss. I just had to teeth extracted so I'm not thinking straight lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Oh God, I $&*&*#(%& out, that was a solution to people who leave after killing the boss. I just had to teeth extracted so I'm not thinking straight lol. lol makes sense. It would be great to stop people from leaving after they kill a boss, but they would NEED to add more to the UI to tell you how many mats you got from that run too, in fact they should do it anyways tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagDollRat Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Me too i don't wanna spend 30 minutes per mission when the mission is possible in 10 minutes.... I dont get allota time to play usually very busy so when I get these people it bugs me, and alota people wanna stay with party and end up sticking to the slowest person >:( ESPECIALLY if I am playing volt and purposely giving them all speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parinirvana Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 What's the point of slowly going thru mission, kill everything, waste so much time when you have a max frame and weapons? Enemies rarely drop resources, mods are meh, there isn't any merit to clear the whole map. Rush thru containers and boxes, kill boss then leave is most efficient way in this game. Now, if enemies drop more resources, and each mission have reward based on your performance (rare mod reward), then it's a different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkDeadeye Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share Posted July 23, 2013 What's the point of slowly going thru mission, kill everything, waste so much time when you have a max frame and weapons? Enemies rarely drop resources, mods are meh, there isn't any merit to clear the whole map. Rush thru containers and boxes, kill boss then leave is most efficient way in this game. Now, if enemies drop more resources, and each mission have reward based on your performance (rare mod reward), then it's a different story I agree..but there's so much QQ about 'rushing' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XDeathCoreX Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Play nightmare and they shall only rush to their deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) I agree..but there's so much QQ about 'rushing' Did you read the thread? Mainly it's the rushers who rush to the objective, finish it, rush out, and the others lose out on whatever minor credits/exp/resources/mods the rushers found (more or less by accident because they actually had to shoot something...) OR they rush to the boss, kill him, and D/C OR kill him, rush off, others possibly lose whatever he dropped if it flies off/boss got killed in an out of the way area. See why there's "QQ"? DE needs to make exploring worth it, all there is too it really if they want people to stop rushing. Edited July 23, 2013 by KvotheTheArcane1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 OP is right to some degree on this point. Most people that complain either want their games in their way, or dont want to join a clan. You cannot expect everyone to play by your rules and people tend to be overly stubborn when it comes down to playing in PUGs. No one is forcing you to rush/explore but if the majority of the group is rushing/exploring you should adapt. If you cannot adapt then play solo. Just dont expect PUGs to be modeled by your needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Harvest Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Pub rushers are scum. If you want to rush don't pub. Obviously you don't care about playing as a team, so stop the charade you bads and quit expecting everyone else to level up your weapons. I rarely pub any longer. It's just gotten out of control because of the new Auras pumping low frames to instantly get speed mods up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPiRALFACToR Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) i rush boss's because there is hardly anything else worth doing in the level. and i like to set the boss up for an easy kill before anyone gets there. i.e. put raptor in the room before the boss yard, or switch teleport phorid into the hallway so he cant maul the tards. i go private for farming mats. i suggest you to do the same if your a slug. Edited July 23, 2013 by SPiRALFACToR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Pub rushers are scum. If you want to rush don't pub. Obviously you don't care about playing as a team, so stop the charade you bads and quit expecting everyone else to level up your weapons. I rarely pub any longer. It's just gotten out of control because of the new Auras pumping low frames to instantly get speed mods up. You are right. Most of the PUGs are idiots. Either they rush bosses and die in process ( no revives from my side ) or they are defense heroes ( no revives from my side either ) or they are little explorers that explore way to the extraction before completing the objective. But ones that i hate the most are those that quit right after the boss fight, if they didnt get the drop they needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 i rush boss's because there is hardly anything else worth doing in the level. and i like to set the boss up for an easy kill before anyone gets there. i.e. put raptor in the room before the boss yard, or switch teleport phorid into the hallway so he cant maul the tards. i go private for farming mats. i suggest you to do the same if your a slug. One, do stop insulting people for a different playstyle than yours, and two DE sides with the "slugs" on this matter. They're working (hopefully) to make it worth it to not rush. Not sure how they're gonna do this with bosses and BPs, but hopefully they will figure something out. -1, if you can kill a boss and rush it, why not go solo and NOT ruin other people's experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagDollRat Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 if you wanna play pub dont drag out a 2-5min mission to 15-40min :/ and maybe us rushers who dont have all day will slow down also lil tip if a volt uses speed while standing RIGHT NEXT TO YOU that means move it -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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