Sub Machine Guns And Corrosive Weapon Effects

[Zer0TheNinja]

I really think that this game needs SMGs, I mean really it's like the only actual type of gun (not rocket launchers and stuff like that, it doesn't really need them) I mean what's more awesome then pelting enemies with Ice pellets? SMGs also fit the role of a ninja very well, you ping enemies with bullets from behind, then when they turn around you cloak and melee them. Sure we already have machine and repeater pistols, but why not SMG's too, they would have higher fire rate than the machine pistols, but maybe less damage or something. SMGs would be a primary weapon, since it would be too balanced to be a sidearm. Also the elemental effect of corrosion should be in this game, because of the elder corrosive infected. Why do our enemies get to use corrosion on us, but we can't use it on them. I think it would be strong on all metallic things, maybe destroy robots, and instead of bypassing shields that enemies carry it melts them off, it could also expose the heads of the corpus, so you can get headshots off them. I know corrosion was suggested before, but why is it the only element we can't use?

[Rhorge]

Agreed, need some SMGs that aren't the lousy Grakata and actually compensate for ammo consumption with DPS.

[Paradoxbomb]

Personally I think that there's plenty of automatic weapons between all the rifles and pistols already, so maybe they should just finish balancing and improving those first (like the Grakata that Rhorge mentioned).

 

As for corrosion, technically it does exist but it's called poison and only specific weapons can use it (the Mire, Torid, and Acrid). But I agree that they should make it a mod just like the other elements, maybe give it the ability to reduce enemy armor to make them more vulnerable to non-bolt weapons.

[Mojogrow]

Sooo... The Furis is not an SMG? It is essentially a futuristic Uzi/Mac-10 and can be "Dual-Wielded". You could make the argument that it is a machine pistol, but then again, how many pistols do you see sporting a 30 round mag? High rate of fire sidearm with good clip and damage... what is an "SMG" to you? Does it have to be a primary weapon for it to be an SMG. Likewise, you guys are ripping on the Grakata, yet alot of players prefer it endgame for it's ability to dispatch a unit quickly. Is that not the role of an SMG?

As for corrosive, Paradoxbomb is absolutly right that A. We already have corrosive (Poison) weapons, and B. There should be maybe an corrosive mod out there, as well as an explosive one, possibly exclusive to a certain gun, such as Shotguns get a mod to allow explosions and Rifles get a Corrosive/Poison element mod, maybe sidearms get a plasma element mod or something... ( Exploding bullet shotguns!!! )

Edited July 23, 2013 by Mojogrow

[Rhorge]

Sooo... The Furis is not an SMG? It is essentially a futuristic Uzi/Mac-10 and can be "Dual-Wielded". You could make the argument that it is a machine pistol, but then again, how many pistols do you see sporting a 30 round mag? High rate of fire sidearm with good clip and damage... what is an "SMG" to you? Does it have to be a primary weapon for it to be an SMG. Likewise, you guys are ripping on the Grakata, yet alot of players prefer it endgame for it's ability to dispatch a unit quickly. Is that not the role of an SMG?

Yes, we want an SMG that's a primary. As for the Grakata deal: it has less DPS than the Braton and almost twice the ammo consumption. Useless against anything above lvl 80 or so because you will run out of ammo boxes before the mission ends. People choose it because they like it, not because there is some ancient Chinese secret to make it OP.

[taiiat]

Likewise, you guys are ripping on the Grakata, yet alot of players prefer it endgame for it's ability to dispatch a unit quickly. Is that not the role of an SMG?

wat

 

you know the Grakata is currently useless, right? it's worse than every other weapon choice, period. it has no good feature that makes it good. 

the crit chance was the redeeming feature that allowed it to be useful. and now... heh. 

 

not because there is some ancient Chinese secret to make it OP.

lol'd

Edited July 23, 2013 by taiiat