Nova And Her Polarities

[Callback]

Don't like it? Forma it.

 

I personally love getting 9 null stars for 18 energy.  260 serrated blade damage per 2 energy, auto-target to cover my 6, and stun lock on staggerable enemies?  YES PLEASE.

Edited July 25, 2013 by Callback

[direcyphre]

I wish.

 

I am missing a total of 13-14 mods in total. 2 of which I would actually like to have. Focus is one of those. It just avoids me like the plague.

 

(Which I am glad about. The plague avoiding me. Not the Focus. Obviously :D)

Run Xini a few times and you'll get one. I've probably got at least a dozen Focus, and I run one on Nova for 412 Energy total. Stupidly hilarious energy pool.

[Ashnal]

What does two motes matter when you spend 9/2+13=18 mod points to get there? I am with OP, at first glance, the attack polarity slots are good for a caster frame...but none of her abilities truly benefit from Continuity or Focus...

How can you say that a caster with three damage based skills does not benefit from Focus? As for the other polarity, Rage would be the only marginally useful option. You could always forma that slot later if Rage doesn't suit your needs though.

[Sixty5]

What does two motes matter when you spend 9/2+13=18 mod points to get there? I am with OP, at first glance, the attack polarity slots are good for a caster frame...but none of her abilities truly benefit from Continuity or Focus...

Focus = damage.

 

Nova = Damage dealer

 

therefore Focus = Good Nova.

 

It increases damage dealt by her 1 2 and 4. Not using it is stupid.

[Haif]

From a roleplaying perspective, whoever designed the Nova should be fired. Two polarized slots where one of them is close to useless for the frame. The Tennos testing and approving that frame cannot have been too bright.

You are implying that DE actually has a QA team. I'm pretty sure they do not.

Edited July 26, 2013 by Haif

[honeybadger]

Focus = damage.

 

Nova = Damage dealer

 

therefore Focus = Good Nova.

 

It increases damage dealt by her 1 2 and 4. Not using it is stupid.

 

So, from the wikia, which can be wrong, but I tend to believe it over "focus=good nova" posts.  This is what we have:

 

• Null Star is affected by Power Strength (Focus)  -- Cool, I understand this one, but 200 damage upped to 260 is a bit lackluster (disclaimer, I don't entirely like Null Star except for the stagger it provides).
• [Antimatter Drop] Deals 100 base damage + absorbed damage x1 / x2 / x3 / x4 of Laser damage type. Only the base damage is affected by Power Strength (Focus). Can score headshots. -- Not going to slot Focus to bump the base damage up to 130.
• [MPrime] Explosions deal 150 / 300 / 500 / 800 Explosion Damage. This is increased by Power Strength (Focus). -- Focus will bring this up to ~1000 damage per explosion, maybe this is useful, but I find the 2x damage to be the main draw.  This one I am on the fence about

My original point is that Nova is a caster frame that only kind of benefits from Focus and not really Continuity, this seems off with two V polarity slots.

[Sixty5]

So, from the wikia, which can be wrong, but I tend to believe it over "focus=good nova" posts.  This is what we have:

 

• Null Star is affected by Power Strength (Focus)  -- Cool, I understand this one, but 200 damage upped to 260 is a bit lackluster (disclaimer, I don't entirely like Null Star except for the stagger it provides).
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• [Antimatter Drop] Deals 100 base damage + absorbed damage x1 / x2 / x3 / x4 of Laser damage type. Only the base damage is affected by Power Strength (Focus). Can score headshots. -- Not going to slot Focus to bump the base damage up to 130.
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• [MPrime] Explosions deal 150 / 300 / 500 / 800 Explosion Damage. This is increased by Power Strength (Focus). -- Focus will bring this up to ~1000 damage per explosion, maybe this is useful, but I find the 2x damage to be the main draw.  This one I am on the fence about
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My original point is that Nova is a caster frame that only kind of benefits from Focus and not really Continuity, this seems off with two V polarity slots.

So basically what I said...

 

Just use a forma, give her a - or D instead of a v and be done with it.

 

and just for kicks here is what I am running. Got mre than enough points to max out everything when I get around to it, since I set up a second set of mods for her.

Edited July 26, 2013 by Sixty5

[Nickeltoe]

I used a forma to change it to D for redirection as well.  Two V polarities really does hurt her build.

[kLai]

I changed the V into D, redirection fits riiiight in.

Putting the D into that V aye? Good idea!

[honeybadger]

So basically what I said...

Your implication was that if you weren't running Focus, you were doing it wrong.  My point was that is not a true statement.  You can OPT to put Focus on if you find yourself swimming in points, because it does help some damage output, but I contend that 9 points may be more generally useful for something else.

[LeAtlas]

Rage, focus and continuity. You'd S#&$ bricks when u see nova prime with 3 v polarities.

[Sixty5]

Your implication was that if you weren't running Focus, you were doing it wrong.  My point was that is not a true statement.  You can OPT to put Focus on if you find yourself swimming in points, because it does help some damage output, but I contend that 9 points may be more generally useful for something else.

 

Nova is a damage dealing Frame. She mainly deals damage with her ult. Her ult gets a boost from Focus. If you aren't using Focus then you aren't dealing as much damage as you otherwise could. If you are skipping out on potential damage then you are, in fact, doing it wrong.

 

And what would you put the points into instead? Unless you are running healing in some form or another vitality is useless IMO, likewise movement speed/stamina mods since she is already fast etc. 

 

The only way I could see focus being a problem is if:

a. you dont have it, or

b. your Nova has no Potato. 

[RagDollRat]

you do realize she gains benefits from ALL of the ability based mods right?

 

 

maybe you should go to the wiki and read up on her powers

[Tatersail]

DE simply can't change the polarity on a weapon/warframe after it has been released for a few weeks.

 

What about all the people who have already forma'ed it?

What about all the people who use it and suddenly have -4 energy, do you Strip there frame of all mods as the load up?

 

or leave them on -4 energy... ?

Its why I think they are unable to put Polarity on Dojo weapons.

 

its something you need to do on release.

 

Nova has a - Aura polarity, which is the most important thing,  since that is worth 4x Forma...

 

I didn't even bother with it, I have a mismatched polarity and still have 18 energy spare, with Maxed mods.

 

 

 

Continuity adds 1 more Null star, and requires a V

[honeybadger]

Nova is a damage dealing Frame. She mainly deals damage with her ult. Her ult gets a boost from Focus. If you aren't using Focus then you aren't dealing as much damage as you otherwise could. If you are skipping out on potential damage then you are, in fact, doing it wrong.

 

And what would you put the points into instead? Unless you are running healing in some form or another vitality is useless IMO, likewise movement speed/stamina mods since she is already fast etc. 

 

The only way I could see focus being a problem is if:

a. you dont have it, or

b. your Nova has no Potato.

We are talking past each other. Thanks for the conversation though.

[iValianT]

Are you sure it increases the multiplier for Drop? The wiki indicates it only increases the base damage.

Are you sure it increases the explosion and 2x damage multiplier for MPrime? The wiki states its only the initial cast damage.

Honest questions, I would love to know.

Increases multiplier too , wiki has lots of misinformation.

[honeybadger]

Increases multiplier too , wiki has lots of misinformation.

If it does indeed increase the multiplier, then I am 100% convinced. However, the forums also have a lot of misinformation.

Edited July 26, 2013 by honeybadger