Ogris Or Torid?

[DGrayman13]

As the title say, which is better for high wave defense mission?

[JessicaAlba]

Ogris =

Torid = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McBOjjWXHU0

YOU DECIDE!

Edited July 25, 2013 by JessicaAlba

[Temporary]

Ogris all the way, it deals more direct damage via the rockets and resulting explosions where the Torid's damage output isn't as high for its grenades and the enemies have to sit in the cloud to gain the full effect - if you're playing a Saryn/Loki and you plan on using Moult/Decoy then Torid may be better but i highly doubt it.

[Gostteam]

Ogris =

Torid = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McBOjjWXHU0

 

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[Chronodroid]

I'll stand my ground with Torid, at least for enemies of 75+. Below everything is cookie cutting when modded right.

[InFlames]

ogris, there's no possible comparison, never make the torid, you will be so disapointed.

NEVER MAKE IT.

[Brunhild]

what mod can i put to change the Charging speed of Ogris?

[Brunhild]

what mod can i put to change the Charging speed of Ogris?

[Ralonik]

The regular mods that would speed up your rifle, that should speed up the charge time for your ogris, i can`t remember the name of the mod tho atm.

[White_Raven]

The regular mods that would speed up your rifle, that should speed up the charge time for your ogris, i can`t remember the name of the mod tho atm.

Speed Trigger.

[Limekim]

What kind of question is this

[VileRocK]

Ogris... Yes you could kill them with DoT but seriously what's the point, just blast them with stupidly high damage from a high level serration and multishot mod on the ogris.

 

Both ignore armour, so torrid does not gain any advantage at higher levels...

[AfroGamerNinja]

The Torid, since armor ignore weapons are a must in the highest of levels...

[YTakuyaY]

Both ignore armour, so torrid does not gain any advantage at higher levels...

Wait, isn't it just Toris that ignore armour? Ogris just dish out so much that at times it may look like it armour ignore, but it doesn't.

[Stownz]

Not to mention you actually have a chance to survive your own torid poison cloud vs insta death from ogris.  Gotta love team mates jumping in front of you.

[vladiko2]

bastille spam = ogris

solo xini with loki till wave ~25 = torid

[DGrayman13]

is thorid viable with vortex? ingame it seems that it can handle t3 def very well..

[Dasmir]

So much kiddies hyped by a rocket launcher, torid all the way.

[Chronodroid]

bastille spam = ogris

solo xini with loki till wave ~25 = torid

 

 

is thorid viable with vortex? ingame it seems that it can handle t3 def very well..

 

It indeed is.

 

Xini f.e. (or any other map too) you put magazine worth of shots down the stairs, and one down the ramp. put two vortex'es profit

 

love my torid, would never ever again equip that e-peeen launcher :)

[Agua]

I have both, and I prefer torid. I'll tell you why:

 

Ogris is a charge weapon, so it shoots in 1.5 sec, that including lag and normal human being reflexes it would be close to 2 seconds. Torid instead shots like a normal weapon. Thus torid has faster "firing rate"

 

Ogris does 150 damage vs 100 base of Torid. However, hitting an enemy directly with ogris will cause only 1/5 of the damage done, while torid will do full damage and stick the bomb to the enemy. Thus torid has easier aiming

 

Ogris recharges faster than torid, so that is a point for ogris.

 

Torid leaves a toxic cloud that deals about 80 damage, this itself it is not very impresive even when modded. However, it's utility is awesome, since the cloud will las 3-4 seconds, that means that if you equipped cryo rounds the enemy would be slowed for a large ammount of time, thus the utility of this combo it is far better than any other utility provided by ogris IMHO.

 

Ogris can damage yourself, whereas torid doesn't. Another point for torid.

 

 

Anyway, its your decision. If you can clear an enemy  wave with one ogris shot, then go ogris, if the enemies are too strong, I'll go with torid utiliry of slowing huge waves of enemies if you find a narrow corridor of sort.

[Fayde8]

I have both, and I prefer torid. I'll tell you why:

 

Ogris is a charge weapon, so it shoots in 1.5 sec, that including lag and normal human being reflexes it would be close to 2 seconds. Torid instead shots like a normal weapon. Thus torid has faster "firing rate"

 

Ogris does 150 damage vs 100 base of Torid. However, hitting an enemy directly with ogris will cause only 1/5 of the damage done, while torid will do full damage and stick the bomb to the enemy. Thus torid has easier aiming

 

Ogris recharges faster than torid, so that is a point for ogris.

 

Torid leaves a toxic cloud that deals about 80 damage, this itself it is not very impresive even when modded. However, it's utility is awesome, since the cloud will las 3-4 seconds, that means that if you equipped cryo rounds the enemy would be slowed for a large ammount of time, thus the utility of this combo it is far better than any other utility provided by ogris IMHO.

 

Ogris can damage yourself, whereas torid doesn't. Another point for torid.

 

 

Anyway, its your decision. If you can clear an enemy  wave with one ogris shot, then go ogris, if the enemies are too strong, I'll go with torid utiliry of slowing huge waves of enemies if you find a narrow corridor of sort.

 

Agua, thanks for the breakdown on this. I was avoiding building Torid myself, but your explanation makes good sense.

 

Thanks, I'll have to try this!

[AlchemistMute]

For lower levels, use the Ogris. It deals it's damage upfront, and it deals tons of damage upfront, so it will destroy mostly everything. At the higher levels though, the Ogris will be dealing little damage due to it's damage type vs. high enemy armor, so I'd use a Torid. If we're talking purely about playstyle, then...

 

- The Ogris deals fronthanded damage, while the Torid is backhanded. The Ogris is immediate while the Torid forces the enemy to sit in the cloud.

- The Torid's clouds are huge ground hazards. Placing an ice mod along with damage mods easily makes it a CC + damage weapon, while the Ogris only deals damage. Tons, though.

- The Ogris is a little faster than the Torid, but the Torid's clouds will continue dealing damage even while reloading.

 

When it comes to playstyle alone, the decision is yours. No weapon is superior. But when it comes to effectiveness, use the Torid as the levels increase, because it serves as CC and armor-ignoring damage.

[Agua]

Agua, thanks for the breakdown on this. I was avoiding building Torid myself, but your explanation makes good sense.

 

Thanks, I'll have to try this!

 

Np, anyway both are awesome weapons, and you need to master a lot of weapons to get to rank 7 to get acrid, so my recomendation would be to build torid at rank 4 and ogris at 6.

 

TIP: Torid is great to shoot at doors when enemies are entering, specially cilinder like ones on void.

[Phoenix86]

Ogris =

Torid = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McBOjjWXHU0

YOU DECIDE!

 

rofl

[SmokeBraid]

Ogris does 150 damage vs 100 base of Torid. However, hitting an enemy directly with ogris will cause only 1/5 of the damage done, while torid will do full damage and stick the bomb to the enemy. Thus torid has easier aiming

 

 

The Ogris rocket does 150 damage. The explosion is 500 damage. 

 

edit: Despite appearances, the two are very different weapons, and excel at very different purposes. An Excalibur on a high perch can rain rockets down around the pod in a defense mission with little risk to themselves, while Vauban can use Vortex to group and hold enemies together for multiple grenades.

Edited November 14, 2013 by SmokeBraid

[Glory]

Ogris all the way. Equip with max Serration, Split Chamber, Armor Piercing, Speed Trigger, Fast Hands, Shred and throw in some elemental damage and you'll be blasting your way through masses of enemies.

I got them both and I believe that both of them are extremely good weapons. But with Torid, you need to forma it atleast few time to make it truly show its claws.

Edited November 14, 2013 by UncelDolan