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On 10/23/2017 at 5:33 AM, modalmojo said:

Thanks for the headsup, I didn't check the building requirements before.  Now I don't think I will farm Gara anymore, just tried a couple of times solo anyway, I will just wait for a discount to buy her in the far future if I feel like being a completist. 

By the way, the only frame I bought outright is Nidus, gave him 6 formas, and he is one of the best to me.  Personally, I don't feel like missing out anything not to have Gara at this moment.  Even the Focus 2.0, don't think I am missing out too much not to unlock most of the nodes, I can choose to stop grinding even though they intend to make people to do so.

Yeah, you comprehend.  No problem.

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On 10/20/2017 at 2:36 AM, Rambit23Z said:

I know you don't want to trade, but I just want to mention warframe.market.

 

Infinitely better than tradechat. Takes 2-3 minutes at most.

Well no as xaelroa said the trade channel is nothing but rivens anymore if you’re trying to sell anything else good luck you’re plat wallet will be dryer than inaros 

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Okay, Bounties in general are extremely uphill. As someone without the resources to get the arcwing launcher, I spend 70% of the time in bounties trucking back and forth. Even people with the launchers seem to spend a lot of time ground-pounding. It's given me worry about my wrist health.

And it could feasibly be worth it if I could get Gara, but I've played a lot of Bounties (15-ish?) and not seen a single part. Again, this isn't too unusual, but the issue is the sheer time it takes per run, and the energy. As in my energy, pressing parkour buttons. My fingers get tired. Not to mention that I could easily get two assassination runs done per Bounty, even the low-level ones, and Assassination runs guarantee Warframe part drops!

In short, farming for Gara is not fun, most of it is just running around, and I'm also worried it's bad for my health.

I think that PoE needs a mobility overhaul of some kind, I get that it's BIG but there's got to be a way to make it better to traverse. Maybe after you finish a bounty you don't need to return to the Cetus Gate to leave with mission complete? Maybe tweak the sprint speed so I at least don't need to make the repetitive motions?

Okay, here's an easier option for you: Make Gara Parts tradeable. I don't want to skip out on the PoE content, but at this point I could grind up the materials to get Gara faster than I can get her parts. Or at least make more solid progress instead of betting time and finger cramps against a 7% chance. I would rather give grinding Equinox a try than continuing on Gara in the current system. At least for that I'm guaranteed more than 1.5k credits and two mods I already have dozens of per run.

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22 hours ago, LostDeep said:

Okay, Bounties in general are extremely uphill. As someone without the resources to get the arcwing launcher, I spend 70% of the time in bounties trucking back and forth. Even people with the launchers seem to spend a lot of time ground-pounding. It's given me worry about my wrist health.

And it could feasibly be worth it if I could get Gara, but I've played a lot of Bounties (15-ish?) and not seen a single part. Again, this isn't too unusual, but the issue is the sheer time it takes per run, and the energy. As in my energy, pressing parkour buttons. My fingers get tired. Not to mention that I could easily get two assassination runs done per Bounty, even the low-level ones, and Assassination runs guarantee Warframe part drops!

In short, farming for Gara is not fun, most of it is just running around, and I'm also worried it's bad for my health.

I think that PoE needs a mobility overhaul of some kind, I get that it's BIG but there's got to be a way to make it better to traverse. Maybe after you finish a bounty you don't need to return to the Cetus Gate to leave with mission complete? Maybe tweak the sprint speed so I at least don't need to make the repetitive motions?

Okay, here's an easier option for you: Make Gara Parts tradeable. I don't want to skip out on the PoE content, but at this point I could grind up the materials to get Gara faster than I can get her parts. Or at least make more solid progress instead of betting time and finger cramps against a 7% chance. I would rather give grinding Equinox a try than continuing on Gara in the current system. At least for that I'm guaranteed more than 1.5k credits and two mods I already have dozens of per run.

Archwing bro gotting unlock that segment or your fingers be hurting for all the bullet jumping

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I should not have to spend 1.2k Oxium and 100k credits to be able to play on the plains of Eidolon without pain. There's lots of better things to spend my credits and Oxium on than Bounties.

Which is kind of the core of the issue. Literally the only thing I want from bounties at this point is Gara, and (as discussed) the grind is too steep to be worth the time. Getting the Arcwing launcher would just solve the physical issue, from a gameplay point of view Grinding for Gara is still not fun.

And if you're going to say 'grinding in general is not fun', I don't see it in that way. I recently ground the parts for the Miter, and it took a while but I worked Vor and Krill down to a science. I slammed that mission out several times an hour, experimented and developed theories, stuff was fun. I'm considering doing the same to Sargas Ruk for Ember parts. Bounties just aren't worth the time and effort put into them.

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22 minutes ago, LostDeep said:

I should not have to spend 1.2k Oxium and 100k credits to be able to play on the plains of Eidolon without pain. There's lots of better things to spend my credits and Oxium on than Bounties.

Which is kind of the core of the issue. Literally the only thing I want from bounties at this point is Gara, and (as discussed) the grind is too steep to be worth the time. Getting the Arcwing launcher would just solve the physical issue, from a gameplay point of view Grinding for Gara is still not fun.

And if you're going to say 'grinding in general is not fun', I don't see it in that way. I recently ground the parts for the Miter, and it took a while but I worked Vor and Krill down to a science. I slammed that mission out several times an hour, experimented and developed theories, stuff was fun. I'm considering doing the same to Sargas Ruk for Ember parts. Bounties just aren't worth the time and effort put into them.

Well the issue comes from the fact that POE wasnt at all built for new players like at all (or atleast doesnt seem like it and didnt seem like it when they first started marketing it) then all the sudden DE decided it was for new players, adding regular resources to its drop tables and such but leaving requirment to craft things at the values they were before, like i personally know from playing for awhile that even the lower level Io, jupiter with a booster you can get 400-800 oxium from a 20 wave run but a new player doesnt know that and you need to go thru plains to unlock mars all the sudden

 

and have other have mentioned ear;ier there might be bounty issues currently, i spent a week farming gara playing each bounty 1 time sper refresh cause i wasnt aware you could keep doing them, once i realized i could do them more then once i got all the gara parts at once running the same bounties the second time, i know thats RNG luck out the wassu but still, took me something like 155 runs to get ivaras neuros which also have like i believe a 7% drop chance while those 155 runs netted me 1 neuro bp i had 18 of her main bp lol

 

totally agree with you on bounties lol outside the event which i already finished, after getting gara parts the only reason i go to POE at all is if i feel like fishing to get some more rep, i just dont usually even bother with Cetus thats a FPS sink hole

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I generally don't play with boosters, but even so 200+ oxium is nothing to sneeze at. However, it doesn't eke out in importance over Vauban Prime (my pet project for a few months now) or a few other things. While the costs are more reasonable than what it takes to get going with Kubrow, Kubrow are more fun and require less random chance to get what you want.

Yes, what Kubrow you first get is random, but there's no chance of investing time and effort into Kubrows and getting mods.

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13 minutes ago, LostDeep said:

I generally don't play with boosters, but even so 200+ oxium is nothing to sneeze at. However, it doesn't eke out in importance over Vauban Prime (my pet project for a few months now) or a few other things. While the costs are more reasonable than what it takes to get going with Kubrow, Kubrow are more fun and require less random chance to get what you want.

Yes, what Kubrow you first get is random, but there's no chance of investing time and effort into Kubrows and getting mods.

there used to be lol kubrow eggs used to be one of the rarest items in the game, people actually had to skip that quest, DE said it was an issue with the game where they couldnt simply bump up the drop chance on the eggs they were either really rare or really common, after a primetime where rebecca and megan tried to do the quest live and both eventually just bought the eggs from the market sometime after, i believe around console launch de announced they were gonna change it and you now have not rare kubrow eggs

also kubrow mods Bite and Maul both used to be very rare and expensive to buy for plat and maul was actually only a silver card and it was more rare at that time then bite lol

 

and all your kubrows are random unless you use genetic codes, theres 3 or 4 different breeds and a large number of patterns and colors they can start with including the Lotus pattern, if thats still a thing

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I know, but if I want a Kubrow I can just get a Kubrow. Maybe not quite the Kubrow I want, but a Kubrow in any case. If I want Gara I'm going to be slogging through lots of rewards I neither want nor need to get the blueprints. Same way with other warframe drops: It may take me 20 tries to get the ember neuroptics, but I'm getting an ember part blueprint each time that I can sell, on top of the pull from the assassination mission on Saturn. The fringe benefits from grinding for Gara are not worth the time and effort spent on the bounties.

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I know, but if I want a Kubrow I can just get a Kubrow. Maybe not quite the Kubrow I want, but a Kubrow in any case. If I want Gara I'm going to be slogging through lots of rewards I neither want nor need to get the blueprints. Same way with other warframe drops: It may take me 20 tries to get the ember neuroptics, but I'm getting an ember part blueprint each time that I can sell, on top of the pull from the assassination mission on Saturn. The fringe benefits from grinding for Gara are not worth the time and effort spent on the bounties.

oh im agreeing with you i was just saying kubrows used to be a pain to get as well lol

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You know something that utterly makes me mad is the fact that I farmed all of equinox’s parts in 2 hours today, and I’ve only gotten one part for gara in 2 weeks and I refuse to bend over and spend money on platinum for one frame I can do the first bounty on the list for 2 hours and get everything but the Gara Chassis I feel like just leaving the game and playing Destiny 2, I have more fun playing Destiny 2 and losing over and over than I do running around the PoE. It’s tiring and boring to run around a huge map for hours. I love this game I really do but I feel like I’m gonna take a hiatus early from the game until the sacrifice. If you ask me PoE is just like D2 boring and getting undeserved praise because it did something “new”. They both have made me disappointed and dissatisfied and I refuse to buy Gara with plat because I have some form of integrity.

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Yeah, personally if the alternate rewards were better I'd certainly consider trying more. Relics are Relics, sure, but Credits and Endo you're basically guaranteed to get from any mission anyway, and most of the mods and resource drops aren't a big deal. (Or, in the case of the set mods, stop being a big deal after the 3rd or so time).

As a result, unless you specifically have an eye out for something else in addition to the Gara parts, there's a lot of disappointment in the tables. Normally this wouldn't be a big deal, but given the amount of time that a single bounty takes it's massively inefficient.

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DE please fix the drop rates for gara, this is insane. 40 bounties ran and I didnt even get the systems. Also it would be nice if you did get a drop like a mod that you could not recieve it twice in the same bounty. 

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On 2017-10-19 at 11:49 PM, Xaelroa said:

DE, I know you want to make money with plat purchases and all, but the 7% droprate for gara's parts from bounties is a little ridiculous, especially since it's all well and fine on paper, but bounties are bugged to hek and back right now. Farming gara is a nightmare under the current circumstances unless you're ungodly lucky, and if you're the opposite end, on top of not having a lot or any disposable income, getting plat enough to purchase her is... a non choice. Can we buff her part drop rates a little at least? I don't mean to 100% obviously, but more like... maybe a 10% or something similar. It'd still leave it relatively "low" droprate comparitively speaking, but make it more bearable, especially once you get the bugs fixed.

Edit: forgot my feedback.

 

P.S. for those about to say trading for plat, if you've got my luck with trading, or the luck of so many others who have chosen to avoid the trading channel like the plague, you never make anything with trading. Also there's the fact that riven spam has taken over trade channel to such a degree that everything else gets lost in the half a second it takes chat to update with the next wave of 50 people selling rivens.

So going to answer the Trade issues first. Sounds like your not making what your trading stand out. By that i mean linking adding icons to get yours noticed. Second you have to spend a lot of time and be patient when trading. 

Now to your main issue. You get many chances for drops on each bounty now. This was not the case when first released. Also you still get something else if not a gara piece. So its not always the best reward i know but there also can be other nice rewards. Then there is standing, Xp, resources. So running mission over and over will be a thing anyway.

Look at it this way stop doing things for one reason and just enjoy the game. Then when you get something you like it's a bonus. once you have gara she'll be max soon and then what? 

Do you have Mesa? That's a frame not fun to farm for. I'll take the Gara farm over that any day.

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