krail9 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Has anyone else seen this? Does anyone know if the halls still work for increasing capacity? Or if the capacity limits are now in effect for old clans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Halls for capacity, Barracks to increase tiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaramelSalted Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 i really dont like this change it forces my clan to spend more to do something we had already done as a tier and capacity upgrade knowing that it would upgrade our tier we had 20 open slots for new members and we were in the middle of recruiting now we are forced to spend another forma which we dont have we have spent the 2nd tier based resource cost for over half our dojo and then this update comes along and kicks us down thats not exactly fair imo DE shouldn't have done the update in this way and barracks were unnecessary its a dojo isnt it? not an army base .. the only update that im extremely unhappy with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertikol Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 It annoys me too. After spending resources on assuring that we could maintain our tier ranking, and building and planning new halls, now up to 500 capacity of excess, the rules change again, and we need to find some other place to put these barracks. Blech. DE, pick one rule and stick with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelrion Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I personally like it, I'm a little OCD so I like having my Dojo looking the best it can, and not being able to use the halls just becuase it increased teir really annoyed me. The new barracks seem perfect, I can just make 1 wing dedicated to barracks with 1 open door for expansion and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loswaith Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) i really dont like this change it forces my clan to spend more to do something we had already done as a tier and capacity upgrade knowing that it would upgrade our tier we had 20 open slots for new members and we were in the middle of recruiting now we are forced to spend another forma which we dont have we have spent the 2nd tier based resource cost for over half our dojo and then this update comes along and kicks us down thats not exactly fair imo DE shouldn't have done the update in this way and barracks were unnecessary its a dojo isnt it? not an army base .. the only update that im extremely unhappy with Typically DE hasnt reduced what you are already at in the past. So you may find your membership cap is still at the 30 mark and you are still rated as a shaow clan dispite not having the barracks to be as such. While find that your clan wont grow past the 30 membership until you have built the shadow clan barracks and the storm clan barracks. If your classified as a ghost clan now and have more than 10 members, you have a huge edge in the current event (presuming that even matters to your clan), not to mention build costings. While unless you are still quite a new group of players having more than 10 people to draw on shouldn't make it too hard to go and get more forma from Tower 2 missions in the void. Unfortunatly teething issues like this will happen but previously it meant Ghost clans couldnt have more than 100 capacity to work with. Personally I'd have liked to build the barracks without upgrading (I'm sure others do too), to make the dojo more accurate a home than it currently is, and can only hope DE will add some aspect to accomidate this (maybe a flag to turn on from building the barracks so you can have them without upgrading or a Ghost barracks block). Edited July 28, 2013 by Loswaith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaramelSalted Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) I personally like it, I'm a little OCD so I like having my Dojo looking the best it can, and not being able to use the halls just becuase it increased teir really annoyed me. The new barracks seem perfect, I can just make 1 wing dedicated to barracks with 1 open door for expansion and be done with it. no matter how you look at it they were the exact same thing and they made sense the first time DE got it right the first time. dont fix it if it aint broke the only problem i saw with the system as it was was that people were to lazy to go search what items did .. or they never read the update notes. it was no secret the halls updated member cap though it wasnt as widely advertised that they also uped build capacity Typically DE hasnt reduced what you are already at in the past. So you may find your membership cap is still at the 30 mark and you are still rated as a shaow clan dispite not having the barracks to be as such. While find that your clan wont grow past the 30 membership until you have built the shadow clan barracks and the storm clan barracks. If your classified as a ghost clan now and have more than 10 members, you have a huge edge in the current event (presuming that even matters to your clan), not to mention build costings. While unless you are still quite a new group of players having more than 10 people to draw on shouldn't make it too hard to go and get more forma from Tower 2 missions in the void. Unfortunately teething issues like this will happen but previously it meant Ghost clans couldnt have more than 100 capacity to work with. Personally I'd have liked to build the barracks without upgrading (I'm sure others do too), to make the dojo more accurate a home than it currently is, and can only hope DE will add some aspect to accommodate this (maybe a flag to turn on from building the barracks so you can have them without upgrading or a Ghost barracks block). we had exactly 10 members while being a shadow clan with 2 in the process of recruitment testing now we are deranked to a ghost clan and are forced to deny the app of those members while we wait to get more forma we have effectively lost members because of this and personally i dont care about the "advantage" we would have as being a full ghost clan we are not 100% focused on events they are not enticing enough our recruitment rate was 1.4 members a day we have lost about 3 days worth of apps in process sure the lower building cost is a benefit but what we lost out ranks it. thats not to say our clan dosnt do its fair share of work as it is the last time i could log into game before work we were ranked 120 in our tier and were rising fast i am sure at most only 2 of our members wont make it to the 250 points for all 5 mods ps: if they had it where there was a building you built that while it was fully built it locked you to your current tier you were in when it finished building and you couldnt upgrade your tier until you dismantled it it would be much better then the barracks .. it could be in a way a different form of the barracks and potentially please many more people then this barracks system Edited July 28, 2013 by XfynxX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelrion Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 no matter how you look at it they were the exact same thing and they made sense the first time DE got it right the first time. dont fix it if it aint broke the only problem i saw with the system as it was was that people were to lazy to go search what items did .. or they never read the update notes. it was no secret the halls updated member cap though it wasnt as widely advertised that they also uped build capacity we had exactly 10 members while being a shadow clan with 2 in the process of recruitment testing now we are deranked to a ghost clan and are forced to deny the app of those members while we wait to get more forma we have effectively lost members because of this and personally i dont care about the "advantage" we would have as being a full ghost clan we are not 100% focused on events they are not enticing enough our recruitment rate was 1.4 members a day we have lost about 3 days worth of apps in process sure the lower building cost is a benefit but what we lost out ranks it. thats not to say our clan dosnt do its fair share of work as it is the last time i could log into game before work we were ranked 120 in our tier and were rising fast i am sure at most only 2 of our members wont make it to the 250 points for all 5 mods ps: if they had it where there was a building you built that while it was fully built it locked you to your current tier you were in when it finished building and you couldnt upgrade your tier until you dismantled it it would be much better then the barracks .. it could be in a way a different form of the barracks and potentially please many more people then this barracks system They actualy did not advertise the clan halls very well when a majority had built 'em, They did a hotfix about 1 or 2 days later so the description would show that it increased teir. And also, before recruiting more people to your clan i would recommend setting up requirments and not letting just any person join. The barracks are fine, I like being able to use the clan halls without upgrading my clan tier. IDK about other people but I actualy care how my dojo looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthPheonix Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 So if a mountain clan builds the barracks, they wouldn't lose members to fit the 30 member limit for the first barrack, right? They just wouldn't be able to recruit more people until they had the appropriate sized barrack built, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loswaith Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 ...we had exactly 10 members while being a shadow clan with 2 in the process of recruitment testing now we are deranked to a ghost clan and are forced to deny the app of those members while we wait to get more forma we have effectively lost members because of this ... It may be that your clan fell through the cracks on this one too. Did you try a support ticket to get your rank set correctly to a shadow clan? Given you are currently the only one mentioning being caught with this issue it sounds more like you got caught in a bug than an intended mechanism. Keep in mind the dojo is in developmental stages, and the game is in beta (yes, I know it gets mentioned allot) which does mean there is bound to be some teething issues here and there. If people realy want to join your clan (rather than just any clan), they will be willing to wait or even help you get the forma you need so they can join you. Personaly to me it sounds like a good thing to test intentions of prospective members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strac_CRO Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) my clan has 536 members and no barracks, will it be splitted int smaller ones ? Since barracks now determine clan size, could we get an option to upgrade grat hall int higher tier hall (cost can be just the sum of lower tier halls, also sum of capacity and energy need) ? It's stupid to have 4 massive but player empty halls. And to remove the need for corridors, clan can make 4 great halls in a row so DE won't be getting any "extra-corridor" platinum-forma. Why not have the ability to upgrade barracks to higer tier? Having multiple but the same rooms makes the dojo look visually unattractive and ugly UPGRADE option can be added in ROOM'S OPTION screen (where destruction and decoration are) Edited July 31, 2013 by Strac_CRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strac_CRO Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 were barracks even mentioned in update info, I found them "by accident" while I was checking dojo energy capacity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelrion Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Your clans wont be split up, you are just unable to invite new members until you are in the correct tier to fit that many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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