droidjv Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) A friend needed ciruits so we went to Venera (venus - defense) and I see it's on nightmare, so we both say, wth let's give it a try. We begin and I see no map, no indicator for current wave or pod's hp. I keep count on my own and we pass wave 5 and with no word from lotus we keep going, I think "maybe it's up to 10 so let's keep going" lol Anyway, I'm pretty sure we went past 10 maybe even 15 but it didn't seem to finish, what am I missing here? Thanks. Edited July 28, 2013 by droidjv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iValianT Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Nightmare mode got new mutators to make the game harder you handicap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droidjv Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 Nightmare mode got new mutators to make the game harder you handicap. I thought so but then what's the handicap here? I understand if it was not seeing the hud so you don't see the map nor the pod's hp. But how many waves I was supposed to do? That's what I find weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iValianT Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I thought so but then what's the handicap here? I understand if it was not seeing the hud so you don't see the map nor the pod's hp. But how many waves I was supposed to do? That's what I find weird. From what I remember it's 15-20-25, not more than that. And about the handicap part , you'll notice it when you get energy drain + vampire + no shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cknives Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 its usually 15 waves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazenFury Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 You wanted nightmare? Here's nightmare, go and die now! Next time, guys, be careful what you wish for. Because new nightmare is sadism, not challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeAtlas Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Love the new nightmare xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSlayer Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 new nightmare is silly as rewards aren'T scaled by level nor what kind of NM mutators are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droidjv Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 its usually 15 waves Thanks, I probably was 1 or 2 waves short then :( had no idea so I just aborted lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickeltoe Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) New nightmare would be awesome if it had rewards to scale with it. On nightmare a common mod should drop on almost every other mod and you should walk out of a typical 30 minute mission with 10 commons 3/4 uncommons and 2 rares. On defense all rare 5/Wave rewards only including BPs. You should walk out of there with 10 mods per 5 waves guaranteed scaling up past wave 5 with 1 guaranteed uncommon, then 1 rare then multiples going up past wave 10. Getting to wave 50 should be 10 rares per 5 waves minimum. Code it simple, they drop off first 10 mobs killed after 5 waves and let RNG take over from there. Just my 2 cents though. Edited July 28, 2013 by Nickeltoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droidjv Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 Well, I just wanted to know what was the deal as I aborted since I didn't know if it was glitched or it was supposed to be like that, but since we're in the subject... I guess the motive for nightmare mode was to give those players who keept complaining the game was too easy a challenge, from that perspective the reward is the challenge itself. But in my case I'd only play it if it actually had a better reward like you guys (SirSlayer & Nickeltoe) say, I'm still missing a few "special mods" from nightmare, but after I get those I won't be doing nightmare unless they make something completely new or improve the rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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