Let Us Earn Platinum

[AraujoCAPSLOCK]

I believe this topic has been wildly discussed before, but i also believe no topic is beyond conversation.

 

I (and from what i can see, others too) still think Platinum is too expensive. Its actually broken enough to put me off actually getting it. 

 

The amount of platinum that you get vs how much you pay to buy stuff with it... that seems fine to me. Just the amount you pay to GET platinum is really bothering me now. Specially since now you can pretty much buy anything on the store... including the stuff many of us slave away grinding for.

 

I don't think any one game should either punish or reward grinders. I Think they guy that plays the game 1 hours every 3 days has just the same amount of rights over game content as the guy that wants to play 3 hours every day. And you can and you do, but right now the Platinum system breaks that a little.

 

Because we still have to grind to get our stuff. And its better now than it was before, but hell man you still do grind quite a bit. And i think of new players, and new comers and they don't have FAQS and guides and every farming position and tiers memorized... they just want to play the game. And they get lost in the sea of materials and grinding...

 

until the see the store. and they can drop in 5-10-20 bucks and come out with a new warframe or a new weapon and a few items... 

 

Now, is that unfair? Not necessarily. You are not just paying for cosmetic stuff you can actually purchase advantages in this game by acquiring certain weapons on the spot with platinum. Getting mods, getting warframes ready to roll in just a few moments. 

 

Does that break the game? Not really... well... it can, but not necessarily.

 

So, what's the issue?  The divide. I don't feel engaged. I think many don't, when your effort to make your character your own, and invest in a build can be outdone by someone elses's credit card. when an event comes around and you get an reward and you can pay your way into getting it ready to use instead of actually earning its parts... and feeling the reward for it.

 

This ends up generating a devide between the low tier players who just pay their way to the top, and the top players who don't need to do that cause they can get anything they need with skill and time. Everybody in between? Locked in a cycle where it seems you are working a job to earn your fun.

 

So, if that's a problem... how do you fix it? Making Platinum cheaper? Well... no. That's not going to happen. That's the developers bread and butter, it's not going to happen. simple as that.

 

So, what can you do? Let us earn platinum.

 

How? By Playing. By having a Dojo.

 

How much? Small amounts that build over time.

 

I really am talking small amounts, like, let me play 3 hours a day for a week to earn maybe 50 Platinum. In a month i'll have 200. That's plenty for anybody who wants to acquire some new colors, try some new mods or get a new weapon or just acquire some extra materials to finish that build that is nearly done.

 

Make it a rare drop, a boss drop. that drops 1-2 platinum once per map. As a map reward for all players. with a 20% drop chance or something like that.

 

The reward is there. Players can then invest in the game and harvest it and acquire reward FROM playing the game. Instead of slashing their credit cards on it with no personal investment. Those who invest more time in the game will earn more, as these people hardly buy platinum anyway... and those who play casually will eventually earn things they couldn't without cash, that's a reward for being loyal to the game in itself!

 

Maybe for dojos visiting my dojo once a day  could give me 1 platinum. Invests on players interactions, make people value their dojos a bit more as well.

 

In the end, you would be investing in the game, and i would feel much more compelled to pay up for a bit extra Platinum to "round up" the amount i need to purchase something, combining what i earned with what i acquired to improve my gaming experience.

 

Thsi to me is a WAY better method of handling platinum than what we have right now. 

 

 

[Sni7ch]

The only think that paying Tenno can buy than the other Tenno cannot is the slots for weapons and warframes. Those should be credit based. Everything else can be found with normal gameplay. I believe that platinum just speeds up the process of grinding. The prices help enforce playing the game versus paying for everything. 

[nodir]

Dude, I believe the way it is now is perfect. We know that the developers are doing a lot of work there, and they need to get paid for that. Personally I have never even thought of paying for games, and purchasing the game currencies until i installed warframe. I have bought a bunch of platinum, and the main reason for that is not the colors that I wanted to get, nor the reactors or catalysts or slots, but it is just the fact that I adore the game and its developers so much that I wanted to 'invest' my money to help to further develop the game.. U know, all of the updates and events going on in the game lets me get rid of all the stress I have in real life.

As Sni7ch mentioned, platinum is mainly for those who want things rush a little bit, and for those who want their stuff to look cool.

The only important thing platinum can buy are the slots. U can just wait until u get some discount from the login reward, and get somebody's credit card to buy 75 platinum for 3 slots. I dont see any problem with this.. With a 50% discount, u can purchase that for $2.5 which is half the price I pay for my regular lunch.

[Trollin4ThePrimes]

No...that is all nothing else to add or say to this thread.

[Laoshottie_X]

Didn't read, almost all the cash shop can be farmed or if you're patient enough to wait for free potatos

[VScipii26]

While I say some things (Resources and credits, specifically) are priced in horrid ways, and that miniscule amounts of platinum should be rewarded (It actually causes more people to want to buy platinum, like slipping someone tiny amounts of an addictive drug), I wouldn't say Platinum is too expensive.

More and more often, however, items are more expensive. Too few items can be bought with credits (making credits worthless), too many items make you want to buy with platinum (asinine crafting costs), and too many items are priced by grad students who have no real economic knowledge outside that one two credit class they had to take (Credits, resources).

Platinum isn't the problem, the market is.

[Mikki79]

Don't they eventually plan to add that Vor's consignment store or whatever they called it. Which will sort of let you earn some platinum. If it ever gets added that is.

[Flackenstien]

No, we shouldn't be able to earn Plat..

We can already get practically everything for free..

 

I could see maybe a small amount as a rare log-in reward, but even then, Slots, Forma, and potatoes only cost 20 Plat at most, and they already give those away for free at a regular basis.

You are not just paying for cosmetic stuff you can actually purchase advantages in this game by acquiring certain weapons on the spot with platinum. Getting mods, getting warframes ready to roll in just a few moments. 

There are no advantages..

It's a cooperative game..

 

You can either take the time to make things if you don't want to pay for them OR you can save time and effort by just paying for things..

 

There's nothing wrong with this.

I could understand if Warframe was PVP focused, but it's not.

Edited July 29, 2013 by Flackenstien

[Lazershark]

if they introduce trading with a two-way mods for plat system, it would solve everything plat related :3

[Jbeasty09]

Honestly, I think it is near perfect how it is atm.  Frames are easy to get, my boss based ones took no more than 20 runs, and weapons are even easier.  The ONLY place platinum should be used, if you are on a budget, is weapon slots/warframe slots/potatos.  And all of those are VERY cheap. Using plat on frames is just plain unneccesary, even for vauban as his parts are on alert so frequently post alert system revamp.

 

Most importantly, login rewards.  Various platinum discount rewards come from these rewards, and you are best off dropping a good sum of cash to get a lot more plat than you would otherwise.  I got a few 50% off ones and a bunch of 20's, paid in $25 for 1k plat and I am set for a LONG while as I only need to buy slots and potatos. 

 

This game is free to play and you can get along perfectly fine without paying a dime.  They HAVE to make money as a business and putting a bit of money into the game for your own entertainment is a good thing for everyone; the game will continue to expand and we will get new content.

 

TLDR; Paying the devs is a good thing for everyone, prices are fair, use your plat on sensible things if you are on a budget (frame/weapon slots and potatos).  Remember 2 weap slots are only 12 plat....

[theammostore]

Not plat, let us earn slots. That's all we need. Skins and colors and sentinels accessories aren't needed.

[Nuadha]

This is the wrong section, if anyone has noticed.

[XCodes]

I don't totally agree with this.  I've only bought 570 plat and I still haven't spent it all.

The plat prices on potatos and slots is fine.  The plat prices on most warframes is about twice what they should be.  75-225 plat is a good price range for warframes, depending on how long they've been out, and remember that you get a free potato here so it's not really a terrible deal.  Guns are a ltitle expensive, but it's not as bad as Warframes in that respect.  The part where guns fail is that there doesn't seem to be any correlation between the plat price of a gun and... well, anything.  More expensive guns aren't stronger, newer, or even necessarily more interesting than what we've got.  Guns should probably be something like 60-150 plat each, but above all else those prices need to get sorted out into something a bit more reasonable.

 

As for the rest, helmets and colors are really too expensive.  75 plat for a set of colors would be good if a) there were more than a half-dozen good colors in a bundle and b) if the coloring system allowed us more than 5 colors per object.  A full pallette is good for genuine artistic design, but we're just dumping 4 paint cans on various parts of our frames.

[Keltik0ne]

If DESteve gets any skinnier, we won't be able to see him on the livestream.

 

Remember, plat pays devs, and DESteve gotta eat.

[RoboDoge]

Lets us earn Plat at 75 per 5$ rate. And someone please give OP some 50% off coupon so he can spend whole 2.5 $ on the frigging game.

[Reavermyst]

Honestly, I disagree with this.  Platinum is this game's ONLY source of revenue.  If you give players a way to earn it for free, then this game would pretty much lose all funding and eventually shut down due to expenses.  Not to mention progression would just about cease to exist as anyone would be able to get everything they want within the course of a weekend!

 

If you want earning, the most sensible option, in my honest opinion, would be through surveys.  If they can partner up with a couple market research groups, we would see something like this.  They make money, you get to earn platinum.  Of course, that is entirely their choice to participate with these groups and doing so may lead to changes in the currency itself to work with the payout rates of these surveys.  That means price increases on in game items.

[c_man_ninja_gun]

 

All you need to know is here.

[Flackenstien]

Not plat, let us earn slots. That's all we need. Skins and colors and sentinels accessories aren't needed.

Slots are the No.1 thing that we should NOT be able to get for free.

If you want to keep getting more, and more stuff for free, then you'll atleast have to pay for something..

[CS_Hubert]

I dont think OP disagree with the the fact that something got to be priced. Its a free to play, true, but we all know that there is an economy behind this that needs to be satisified. As far as I understand OP its the price on platinium that is way off the mark. And I agree. For me it has the consequence that I dont want to buy platinum because its so expencive and that will have a negative influence on the game development. Not that I dont buy platinum will rock the boat, but the thousands that thinks as I do: I want to pay if its fair price but I seek to avoid payment if its too expencive. Instead of getting a little from a lot they want a lot from a small group (those who can afford to say I dont give a damn). Am I totally off the mark here ?

[Centias]

Even after putting down $25 for 1000 platinum and the included Thunderbolt mod (at 50% off), a whole lot of playtime over several months, and unlocking nearly every warframe and weapon in the game, I still think that something should change about the Platinum system. Platinum should cost less, items bought WITH platinum should cost less, or it should be possible to slowly acrue some inside the game.

 

Though, Bells's suggested 50 a week strikes me as a bit HIGH, considering platinum purchases is how the developers are making their money. Something more like 5 or 10 a week. Something more minimal, and maybe even that is too high. Make people farm resources for a weekly turn-in that rewards platinum, with the resources changing each week. In time, the small amounts add up to access those next two weapon slots, that next frame slot, that potato, that color pack (that should on all counts be bought with credits already, not platinum), that stack of void keys, what have you. Or maybe just have a chance of platinum as a login reward.

 

The idea is, I want to feel less hesitant about SPENDING the platinum I get. Right now I'm just kind of hoarding it until I feel I like a weapon too much to wait for my next potato for it. I think for the time and enjoyment I've gotten out of this game already, $25 was pretty reasonable. Maybe in a few more months I'll be running low on platinum and think another $10-15 sounds reasonable, with more content coming in.

[RoboDoge]

I dont think OP disagree with the the fact that something got to be priced. Its a free to play, true, but we all know that there is an economy behind this that needs to be satisified. As far as I understand OP its the price on platinium that is way off the mark. And I agree. For me it has the consequence that I dont want to buy platinum because its so expencive and that will have a negative influence on the game development. Not that I dont buy platinum will rock the boat, but the thousands that thinks as I do: I want to pay if its fair price but I seek to avoid payment if its too expencive. Instead of getting a little from a lot they want a lot from a small group (those who can afford to say I dont give a damn). Am I totally off the mark here ?

They are giving 50-75 % coupons. Everyone got one of them at some point. So you might be little of the mark here ;)

[CS_Hubert]

They are giving 50-75 % coupons. Everyone got one of them at some point. So you might be little of the mark here ;)

Ok... I got one of those cupons and I got some platinum because I thought it was a decent price. But I wont spend around 1 euro pr. 22 platinum at the costs in the game. That takes the micro out of microtransactions. I disagree with OP on the part on getting platinum salary for being active, but I would like to buy platinum at fair rates. That said I enjoy the game so far, so I dont really need platinum anyway ;)

[S3raph]

I'm assuming when your boss presents you with your salary you say "No, thank you. I work for free." If this isn't the case, creating this thread was a bit hypocritical.

[Rapid]

I think I heard there are also legal hurdles associated if players can earn virtual cash that translates to real money. One reason you don't see even big companies say earn MS Points or PS Credits by playing our games. That and companies need to make money somehow..

[XCodes]

Yes, even with a 50% off cupon, we're talking about roughly $4 for a gun or $9 for the latest Warframe.  Those prices could stand to come down a little.  Yes, I'm aware of 75% off cupons, but frankly I have yet to receive one so... meh.