Molecular Prime And Kappa

[Ventias]

i have been torn between whether to spam it or not. I know some people hate it being spammed while others dont mind. (just in kappa)

 

now what im wondering is, since m.prime clears the room fast. The enemy spawns much faster in one run. Does it help acquire more exp for party or does it steal exp from party.  never been on the other end of the stick since most nova's i party with tend to hold back from spamming it.

[123Olympian]

XP is given to all if you are near the killings. I don't see why people complain.

Edited July 29, 2013 by 123Olympian

[IlluminaBlade]

XP is given to all if you are near the killings. I don't see why people complain.

Because you wont get Exp for any particular weapon.

[bro-dog]

spam it as often as efficiently possible, kill that S#&$ without regard as long your team is in exp range

[AllAboutTheU]

It's generally frowned upon to spam offensive abilities in mobile defense. Weapons will net less experience.

[TeddyBear]

Its bad if someone want to level is thier guns cos the shared exp goes like this lets say i kill this guy who is worth 100xp when is shared 25exp goes to warframe 25exp goes to primary 25exp goes to secondary 25exp goes to melee. But if the guy kills with a gun he gets 100exp for his gun.

I believe thats how exp sharing works correct me if i am wrong.

Edited July 29, 2013 by TeddyBear

[Enki_EA]

Because you wont get Exp for any particular weapon.

Only the user of the skill does not get xp for a particular weapon. XP share works like this.

 

I kill something? You get 1/4 the xp spread across everything. Doesn't matter how I killed it, you get the same xp.

[Aggh]

Because you wont get Exp for any particular weapon.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1irhra/let_get_rid_of_the_xp_sharing_myth/

[VER1]

I say just do it.

 

The primary reason is you are getting all the kills and are going to have the end result of the highest kills.

Other people want this and when you keep on taking kills they claim for themselves, it starts to make them mad.

 

Some players if not many players use Nova just for the sole reason of getting highest kills until the enemy levels start to get tough and one ultimate ability does not cut it anymore.

Before then they may indicate that they have to 'go eat dinner' and expect you to leave as well so they know they had the highest kills for that session instead of torturing themselves wondering if you ended up with more kills than them within the next five waves or somehow not eat dinner and stay on until you leave or their Mother screams at them to eat their dinner now (which maybe just to go have a bath).

 

It is a big part of what  many players strive for in this game, even though it does not effectively add any kind of in game award or achievement.

[Tarudizer]

It's generally frowned upon to spam offensive abilities in mobile defense. Weapons will net less experience.

 

Twaddle. Honestly, that's just idiotic. It's also wrong. Even if it WASN'T wrong, if someone came up to me and said "duuuude, stop using X ability, maaan" I'd slap him silly! Powers are meant to be used.

[Xinoxlx]

i have been torn between whether to spam it or not. I know some people hate it being spammed while others dont mind. (just in kappa)

 

now what im wondering is, since m.prime clears the room fast. The enemy spawns much faster in one run. Does it help acquire more exp for party or does it steal exp from party.  never been on the other end of the stick since most nova's i party with tend to hold back from spamming it.

 

People that complain about "kill stealing" should be ignored. They have no clue what they're talking about. When doing Mobile defense I bring one weapon to kill with and two to level with. So any kills made by others only benefits me.

[AllAboutTheU]

Twaddle. Honestly, that's just idiotic. It's also wrong. Even if it WASN'T wrong, if someone came up to me and said "duuuude, stop using X ability, maaan" I'd slap him silly! Powers are meant to be used.

I doubt it's wrong. I get yelled at pretty often for spamming ultimates.

[VinceBlood]

Molecular Prime is the best XP dispenser in the game.  People need to learn how the game works.  When a Nova runs off and blows up an entire spawn, all of my Affinity bars on my HUD flash with increase.  It's not difficult to test this.

[Suzaku4489]

There's also the fun/feeling useful factor. If a player joins a mission to actually fight enemies and try to have fun, then they may feel ripped off when they join a battle with a Nova nuking the room every 15 seconds. Even if they can collect all the mods, materials, and shared exp, they might feel bored and unneeded.

[Ventias]

so far i understood that exp wise, its great o_o 

fun wise, it makes other feel bored.

 

thanks for the feed back =)

[Xinoxlx]

There's also the fun/feeling useful factor. If a player joins a mission to actually fight enemies and try to have fun, then they may feel ripped off when they join a battle with a Nova nuking the room every 15 seconds. Even if they can collect all the mods, materials, and shared exp, they might feel bored and unneeded.

That's their problem not the Nova's using the ult. The Nova is helping to win the mission and get everyone good exp.

[stivoknis]

i have been torn between whether to spam it or not. I know some people hate it being spammed while others dont mind. (just in kappa)

 

now what im wondering is, since m.prime clears the room fast. The enemy spawns much faster in one run. Does it help acquire more exp for party or does it steal exp from party.  never been on the other end of the stick since most nova's i party with tend to hold back from spamming it.

 

Using m. prime to clear an entire room is very impressive to see and helps out the whole team, but when every single enemy that appears is killed by Nova, the game gets boring and unfun.  When people cannot kill things with their own warframe, then there is no feeling of accomplishment when completing a level.  I started playing primarily playing solo keep this feeling of accomplishment.

[RedDirtTrooper]

I'm in kappa to level up as fast as humanly possible, more waves means more xp. Spam away, just make sure you're doing it near the consoles, or close enough to the pod that we're all getting the xp share. My only complaint with a Nova spamming m. prime is when they go all $&*&*#(%& defense hero and head out into the middle area when we're defending consoles or on the other end of the big room when we're defending the pod, so that it's killing people way out past the xp share range.

[Tarudizer]

I doubt it's wrong. I get yelled at pretty often for spamming ultimates.

 

It is. Look up exp sharing. When player 1 kills an enemy with a power, player 2 gets that exp split into 4, 1/4 to warframe exp, 1/4 to primary, 1/4 to secondary and 1/4 to melee.

 

So if you get yelled at, tell them they are just being silly. The only way for them to get 100% of the exp to whatever weapon they want to have it on, they THEMSELVES have to kill enemies with said weapon.

[stivoknis]

There's also the fun/feeling useful factor. If a player joins a mission to actually fight enemies and try to have fun, then they may feel ripped off when they join a battle with a Nova nuking the room every 15 seconds. Even if they can collect all the mods, materials, and shared exp, they might feel bored and unneeded.

 

Exactly.  The more overpowered ultimate we see, the more people will start playing solo.  There's no reason to cooperate when one person can just nuke every room for an easy win.  Cooperation involves more than one person, and in that respect DE has failed.

[bro-dog]

It's generally frowned upon to spam offensive abilities in mobile defense. Weapons will net less experience.

 

i've done hundred of these and nobody has ever said a word about killing S#&$ too fast, this is nonsense

[Althix]

well... try to play mission where ult don't kill.

 

you can always steal Nova's kills after all.

 

and the last part, i play kappa/kiste for fun and leveling. So as long as "badass slayer of grineers" is in affinity range i am cool.

 

Also Mag's crush works just as good as MP. Rhino stomp? same. WoF? slower but still. SQ? same. Miasma? same. Hell even frost who mistakenly believes that he is dps class can kill on kappa.

 

So what's the problem?

Edited July 29, 2013 by Althix

[Suzaku4489]

There's also the fun/feeling useful factor. If a player joins a mission to actually fight enemies and try to have fun, then they may feel ripped off when they join a battle with a Nova nuking the room every 15 seconds. Even if they can collect all the mods, materials, and shared exp, they might feel bored and unneeded.

That's their problem not the Nova's using the ult. The Nova is helping to win the mission and get everyone good exp.

You're right that the player is helping everyone win in the end, but the team might not need a room decimating ultimate to get by. If the group is being overwhelmed, by all means, nuke the place. If the team can fully handle the onslaught with relative ease and the only reason to use an ultimate is because you like seeing your kill count soar or just love that bloom, then you may be ruining the fun for everyone else. When I go to Kappa and play as Banshee, I never use my Sonic Quake until I think, "Ok, this is starting to get out of hand. Time to make some space for us."

Edited July 29, 2013 by Suzaku4489

[AllAboutTheU]

It is. Look up exp sharing. When player 1 kills an enemy with a power, player 2 gets that exp split into 4, 1/4 to warframe exp, 1/4 to primary, 1/4 to secondary and 1/4 to melee.

 

So if you get yelled at, tell them they are just being silly. The only way for them to get 100% of the exp to whatever weapon they want to have it on, they THEMSELVES have to kill enemies with said weapon.

 

I know how the exp sharing works. I mean, I doubt the notion that the in-game community doesn't like spamminess on mobile defense is wrong. I thought you referring to that part of my post.

[Canyew]

I was a mag first (Still love my mag. abuilty to pull entire rooms, crush enemies into the floor so they are studden, shoot them in the face while they are down.) Sure its not as possible as Nova but I don't spam her ult even when I can, I wait till the time is right. Like being face to face with a squad of 50 grineer jammed into a hallway during this past event (It happened.) to the point you can;t even get past them, I used M. Prime. And almost crashed my game and crashed someone else in my group because of the physics rendering of all the drops just ate the game.

 

Anyway. Point is that use M. Prim when there is more then 15 enemies or so. People won't rage at you for it, since they are surrounded. And appericate it more.

 

Also! M. Prime don't do anything on it's own, the room only explodes when something dies. so you can still get your 20+ kills with a pistol :P