Tired of everyone saying Cernos Prime is trash?? (Look no further!)

[Dahx11]

Ever since it's release, the Cernos Prime was panned by players for under performing compared to other bows like Dread and Rakta Cernos.

I however, quickly fell in love with this bow due to it's built in multi-arrow shots and room clearing capabilities. With the addition of the new set mods, this opened up brand new opportunities for this weapon.

In this thread I will be showcasing 2 builds.

Build 1:

 

What truly shines with this build is the combination of Hunter Munitions and Vigilante Armaments.

HM gives you a 30% slash proc chance with each critical hit. With 87.5 crit chance on each arrow and the multishot given to you by VA and Split Chamber (giving you a total of 8 - 9 arrows per shot), you are almost guaranteed multiple slash procs per shot. 

Despite the low status chance, the Viral procs greatly reduce enemy heath and at the same time doubles the damage of those slash procs!

 

Build 2 (with Riven):

The Riven I have equipped gives the Cernos Prime an additional Crit Damage, Status chance and Electricity Damage; turning this into a corrosive build. With the extra mod slot, I am able to add Vile acceleration for less charge time and faster dps. (You can easily swap it out for VA if that is your preferred play style) However, with less arrows being fired at once, each arrow is dealing a higher percentage of your overall damage. This means less penalty for arrows not hitting the enemy.

Now you can argue that, Hunter Munitions is doing all the work but in the end, who cares? The same can be said for a lot of mods (IE maiming strike, condition overload etc.) The point of this thread was to prove that the Cernos Prime can be a great weapon with the right mods (just like any other weapon). 

 

P.S. Yes I know it's simulacrum and the enemy is lvl 100 and not 150 but it's still performing better than it did at release.

Edited November 20, 2017 by Dahx11

[Railgun]

It wasn't THAT bad, I enjoy using it without either of those. It's a great weapon to use Thunderbolt on.

Edited November 20, 2017 by SergeantSunshine
misred something, cut out my first part.

[Kaotyke]

Its the Kohm of Bows: hits a lot of things without needing to line up the enemies.

[GreyEnneract]

Almost the same build. Figured out that the Viral isn't even necessary on lv150s. Don't have a Riven, so using Argon.

[Chipputer]

It's never been trash, anyway. It's always just had a less-than-accepted use scenario for the meta-kids to care about so they ran to the forums to say it was garbage.

Regardless, this setup is great but Hunter Munitions still benefits the Rakta Cernos more as you don't even have to give up a useful slot to put it on the bow.

[Kylo.]

Cernos Prime is trash

[SilentLogix]

now try it without being invincible, and moving around like you're actually playing instead of being a few feet from the enemy

[Dahx11]

Just now, SilentLogix said:

now try it without being invincible, and moving around like you're actually playing instead of being a few feet from the enemy

That's not the point

[phoenix1992]

According to the screenshots provided, you have fed it a lot of formas, better for your sanity if it is not "trash".

But I would  not rank it above mediocre either.

[Magicfingers]

3 minutes ago, Dahx11 said:

That's not the point

as long as you're doing the simulacrum enjoy it. lets see a video of you using it in the game with level 100 enemies and then try and say that

Edited November 20, 2017 by Magicfingers

[Dahx11]

Just now, Magicfingers said:

as long as you're doing the simulacrum enjoy it. lets see a video of you using it in the game and then try and say that

Because we casually fight level 100 heavy gunners as a part of regular Warframe gameplay...

[saltygr33n]

Still "trash", compared to other bows.

[ashrah]

its nice on mercury paris   mk1 is better

[Dahx11]

Just now, saltygr33n said:

Still "trash", compared to other bows.

Can other bows clear rooms like shotguns?

[Magicfingers]

4 minutes ago, Dahx11 said:

Because we casually fight level 100 heavy gunners as a part of regular Warframe gameplay...

ok. i understand now. you'll only fight level 100 enemies in the simulacrum while you're invincible. so let me ask you this. what missions do you actually use it in?

[Dahx11]

Just now, Magicfingers said:

ok. i understand now. you'll only fight level 100 enemies in the simulacrum while you're invincible. so let me ask you this. what missions do you actually use it in?

Pretty much any mission I feel like using a bow in and Bow only sorties

[Railgun]

Just now, Magicfingers said:

ok. i understand now. you'll only fight level 100 enemies in the simulacrum while you're invincible. so let me ask you this. what missions do you actually use it in?

That's not what they're trying to say. How often are you going to be fighting level 100+ enemies in regular gameplay to make the Cernos prime a bad weapon?

[SkyeFeatherfall]

It looks cool but you need so much mods to have something decent compared to the other bow...you can't even put some speed if you want crit, crit damage, damage and elements + those mods so 1 second and not being sure to kill the target means you might dying a lot for not much :/

[Magicfingers]

1 minute ago, Dahx11 said:

Pretty much any mission I feel like using a bow in and Bow only sorties

ok, let's compromise. show us a level 100 heavy gunner video of you in the simulacrum using it, but don't be invincible. then we'll see how good it is.

[Railgun]

1 minute ago, Magicfingers said:

ok, let's compromise. show us a level 100 heavy gunner video of you in the simulacrum using it, but don't be invincible. then we'll see how good it is.

 

16 minutes ago, Dahx11 said:

That's not the point

 

[Dahx11]

Just now, Magicfingers said:

ok, let's compromise. show us a level 100 heavy gunner video of you in the simulacrum using it, but don't be invincible. then we'll see how good it is.

So a weapon is as good as how well your warframe can survive? Makes sense...

[MobyTheDuck]

IMO, its still a bizarre bow/shotgun combination that takes a year to charge/reload, does terrible damage per shot (when compared to normal bows) and has the status chance/shot problem from shotguns.

Equipping the mandatory mods (damage, multishot, crits, 2 elementals) already takes 6 slots. Then you want to reduce charge rate and thats 7 slots for either Vile Acceleration or a riven, and you are left with only one slot for something.

And it was basically killed by the Lenz, as long you dont use it in close ranged combat.

[Broodmoe]

Can't wait for the impact buff to make the Cernos viable on all content

Plus that sexy design is a waste for now

Edited November 20, 2017 by Strider91

[Magicfingers]

20 minutes ago, Dahx11 said:

So a weapon is as good as how well your warframe can survive? Makes sense...

a good weapon will help you survive. if you die quickly, what good is it?

[Dahx11]

1 minute ago, Magicfingers said:

a good weapon will help you survive. if you die quickly, what good is it?

You just need to git gud